FF Election posters with Martin up already

selfobsessed

He is in the job less than a week and now there are already election posters with his picture on them with the slogan, 'Real Plan, Better Future' How could they get them out so quick?? Unless it was a fix fro him to win long ago :rolleyes:

ninty9er

These things have a turnaround of a few days once they're designed, and you'd want a complete tool as Director of Organisation not to have a design ready for all 4 candidates.

The Volt

News has reached me that Cyprian Brady soon-to-be-former Fianna Failure TD has already put up all of his election posters on the Navan Road. This is highly illegal. Cyprian can be fined up to €150 per poster per day for doing this. So do everyone in Dublin Central a favour and call the city manager on
01 222 2409 and complain.

ninty9er

Considering it is now the 1st of Feb and that the order for the poll will be issued today, it's a wasted phonecall.

darragh16

Voltwad wrote: »

News has reached me that Cyprian Brady soon-to-be-former Fianna Failure TD has already put up all of his election posters on the Navan Road. This is highly illegal. Cyprian can be fined up to €150 per poster per day for doing this. So do everyone in Dublin Central a favour and call the city manager on
01 222 2409 and complain.

Mick Murphy in Dublin South West had them out over the weekend and I've heard of other candidates in other constituencies that had posters out last week.

peckerhead

ORLY?

Liam Byrne

The law should be changed so that anyone attempting a head start should be disqualified for cheating.

That said, I never understood the concept of election posters anyway - does anyone seriously think they gain votes?

"I saw him on a pic on a poster yesterday so I'll vote for him despite not having a clue"

Sulmac

ninty9er wrote: »

Considering it is now the 1st of Feb and that the order for the poll will be issued today, it's a wasted phonecall.

Just because it's now 1 February (and even then, the Dáil still hasn't been dissolved) doesn't mean it wasn't illegal on 31 January. The candidates should still be reported - no one is above the law!

My own opinion is that posters such as these should be banned anyway, they block road signs and traffic lights in many cases. Let them do like in the U.S. and U.K. (excluding N.I.) and have people put them on their own properties, and pay for advertising in appropriate places (billboards, bus shelters, and so on).

Dr. Baltar

I don't think that they should be banned, but I believe every candidate should be entitled to equal advertisement.

[Jackass]

Liam Byrne wrote: »

The law should be changed so that anyone attempting a head start should be disqualified for cheating.

That said, I never understood the concept of election posters anyway - does anyone seriously think they gain votes?

"I saw him on a pic on a poster yesterday so I'll vote for him despite not having a clue"

Sadly, that is exactly how they work.

Everyone is more inclined to go with something / someone they are or have been made to feel familiar with.

If basic marketing didn't work this way, you'd watch your favourite tv shows free of interuption all the time.

johngalway

selfobsessed wrote: »

He is in the job less than a week and now there are already election posters with his picture on them with the slogan, 'Real Plan, Better Future' How could they get them out so quick?? Unless it was a fix fro him to win long ago :rolleyes:

I haven't seen any yet, so I wonder does he have the Fianna Fail logo on his posters, or is he leaving it off... :pac:

Pepe LeFrits

Lucinda Creighton has posters up on poles in DSE too.

gazzer

Driving into work this morning and there was tons of posters of Brendan Smith (Cavan). Who do I ring to report this? Is it the County Council? I know that from this evening the posters are legal to put up but its just another example of policitians thinking they are above the law.

bohsfan

Dr. Baltar wrote: »

I don't think that they should be banned, but I believe every candidate should be entitled to equal advertisement.

Exactly. There should be some kind of quota for maximum spend on posters etc. to give everyone a fair chance.

It might force politicians to engage in other ways of debating actual policies rather than bombarding the public with pseudo-aspirational campaign slogans

InigoMontoya

bohsfan wrote: »

Exactly. There should be some kind of quota for maximum spend on posters etc. to give everyone a fair chance.

It might force politicians to engage in other ways of debating actual policies rather than bombarding the public with pseudo-aspirational campaign slogans

Agree with this. There should also be designated areas where they can be displayed rather than having strings of the same poster all over the place.

**** like this is ridiculous:

Sulmac

Dr. Baltar wrote: »

I don't think that they should be banned, but I believe every candidate should be entitled to equal advertisement.

I agree. We should have designated boards for putting political posters on, like in some other European countries.

Here's an example from France, and here's one from the Netherlands.

Liam Byrne

[Jackass] wrote: »

Sadly, that is exactly how they work.

Everyone is more inclined to go with something / someone they are or have been made to feel familiar with.

If basic marketing didn't work this way, you'd watch your favourite tv shows free of interuption all the time.

Not necessarily true; while I do think lots of ads are ridiculous and tell you nothing about the product, the fact remains that none of the products that I see on TV ads have damaged my life, and if they had the ad would indeed be pointless.

As for an FF supporter saying "there's no point reporting the illegal activity", it sums it all up, really.......ignore / condone / defend blatant lawbreaking and/or rules as long as it benefits the party.

rossit

sorry if im missing the answer but who do report the early poster to there up in wexford it was the quickest i seen ff move

mikemac

Environment section, report them for all candidates that you see
Telephone: (053) 9120922

Dubh Geannain

I've reported Nick Killian in Ratoath this morning.

Check out the link here on election posters from the Department of the Environment.
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/Environment/Waste/LitterPollution/FileDownLoad,20113,en.doc

Q. What amendment was made to the Litter Pollution Act in 2009 – how many days before an election can candidates now erect posters?

A. Posters are now only allowed to be erected for a certain specified time period before an election. This time period is either (a) 30 days before the poll date or (b) from the date the polling day order (or equivalent) for the election has been completed, whichever provides the shorter period of time.

Whichever provides the shorter period would indicate to me that we are going by the date of the polling order as it is already under 30 days to the election (assuming it's on the 25th).

mickoneill30

FF, FG & Socialist party posters were all over Swords this morning.

gandalf

Well at this stage there is no point reporting them because the election is now on.

Sierra Oscar

People are complaining about posters being put up last night? Ah for feck sake, I was in North Tipperary over the weekend and Alan Kelly (Labour) had his up last week as did Noel Coonan (Fine Gael). Eoghan Murphy (Fine Gael) has had posters up in Dublin South East since the beginning of last week! Were people complaining to the councils about these candidates?

Fingal County Council have already dismissed anyone who reported posters that were put up last night, and have stated that if anyone interferes with them they will be prosecuted as taking them down is theft.

vicwatson

How come it seems that the electorate are the only ones not privy to when the election will take place (we know now it's the 25th Feb) meanwhile all the political parties obviously know in advance hence all the posters hanging up making our towns villages and cities look rubbish ! Oh by Biffo by the way !!;)

Dubh Geannain

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

People are complaining about posters being put up last night? Ah for feck sake, I was in North Tipperary over the weekend and Alan Kelly (Labour) had his up last week as did Noel Coonan (Fine Gael). Eoghan Murphy (Fine Gael) has had posters up in Dublin South East since the beginning of last week! Were people complaining to the councils about these candidates?

Fingal County Council have already dismissed anyone who reported posters that were put up last night, and have stated that if anyone interferes with them they will be prosecuted as taking them down is theft.

I don't agree with them being hung up early but I'll make the extra little effort to actually go and complain about a FF candidate in thanks for years of misery :pac:

PS I certainly wasn't dismissed when I made the complaint. Whether it goes any further is another thing. But I don't see the point in moaning about something when there's something you can do about it.

Sierra Oscar

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

PS I certainly wasn't dismissed when I made the complaint. Whether it goes any further is another thing. But I don't see the point in moaning about something when there's something you can do about it.

As far as I am aware, the actual legal jargon is that the posters cannot be put up 30 days before a general election. The election date is 25th Feb so they should be OK.

Dubh Geannain

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

As far as I am aware, the actual legal jargon is that the posters cannot be put up 30 days before a general election. The election date is 25th Feb so they should be OK.

Read the quoted text in my original post.

Edit: My interpretation is, before the election is called they can't be put up. It goes by whichever is the shortest of the two periods i.e. 30 days or from the date of the election announcement.

selephonic

I reported some Lucinda Creighton posters that were up last night to Dublin City Council and was informed today that 90 posters were removed, each of which will incur a 150 quid fine.

Also, there are rules in each council regarding posters during the campaign. They have to be a certain height up, and can't block sight lines or be on rails, etc. During the last council election there were posters in some seriously obstructive places.

the groutch

don't worry guys, we'll get them after the election, when they're not taken down quick enough (within 7 days of polling day)

mikemac

selephonic wrote: »

I reported some Lucinda Creighton posters that were up last night to Dublin City Council and was informed today that 90 posters were removed, each of which will incur a 150 quid fine.

Ouch!
That's a hefty cheque to write.

All parties were at this messing, just some got threads started about them and some got fines

the groutch

anyone know what the minimum height for these is? one indo in my area has half his posters at eye-level

vicwatson

I was told by a guy who was working putting up posters for the Labour party that they had to be a minimum of 2.1 metres high - very very few, if any, were above 2.1 metres

Time to get rid of all the posters anyway. That or colour coded tags so we can see the culprits who leave them behind on the lamposts !