Dealers lil book of torture ?

futurefarmer

U know the one i mean where u look at a car and ask how much for a trade in and its, well let me just check the book !! Than u know ur screwed !!!
Wondering where can i pick one up ??

Thanks

Atlantic Dawn

Pretty sure it's trade only and not for public viewing.

andyseadog

you have to be in the trade, simi registered or something like that i think.

definitely not available to the public. i think the subscription costs thousands a year

futurefarmer

The Bastards lol

mickdw

I once was dealing with a garage and he trying to show me how good a deal he was giving so he pulls out the little book and shows me the trade value on the car I was looking at. the book was 14 months old. This made the sale price look very good. When I said it was an old book, he said -ah ya but that car doesnt lose its value. Chancer.

johnos1984

You could ways just give an accurate description here, maybe some pics of the car in its current state and say what you trading it in for and someone here will give you a good guide as to what its worth.

There are people here with access to the info (not me) but others can happy to help

Owen

Trade guys don't even use the book anymore. It's a work of fiction. The only way to value a car now is to look on Carzone, see what other Dealers are selling similar models for, and be cheaper.

futurefarmer

futurefarmer wrote: »

U know the one i mean where u look at a car and ask how much for a trade in

I have my 10th car outside, (11th if you include a company car I had for a year, I don't include that). I know not what this trade in lark you speak of is :pac:

bazz26

mickdw wrote: »

I once was dealing with a garage and he trying to show me how good a deal he was giving so he pulls out the little book and shows me the trade value on the car I was looking at. the book was 14 months old. This made the sale price look very good. When I said it was an old book, he said -ah ya but that car doesnt lose its value. Chancer.

That old trump card. Must be one of the top ten tips in the "how to sell a car" training handbook.

Anan1

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Trade guys don't even use the book anymore. It's a work of fiction.

I never used the book when I sold cars - even if it was accurate and up-to-date it still couldn't cover all the factors involved in valuing a trade-in.

@OP - don't mind the book, just shop around. As always, the only figure that counts is the cost to change.:)

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

That old trump card. Must be one of the top ten tips in the "how to sell a car" training handbook.

Thats was a good 10 years ago. I have not seen it use before or since. At least it didnt work with me.

Treora

It is called the blue book value of a car. The US version is online as a full listing service - http://www.kbb.com/. You will have to do alot of relative comparisons to figure the Irish prices of comparative models here.

andyseadog

Treora wrote: »

It is called the blue book value of a car. The US version is online as a full listing service - http://www.kbb.com/. You will have to do alot of relative comparisons to figure the Irish prices of comparative models here.

i think the 'blue book' is an american term too.

last time i seen one, the cover was titled 'trade bible'

Owen

Blue book is an American name. In English it's the Glasses Guide. Here, it's called emergency toilet paper - you know, when the normal stuffs run out, and you're looking through all your magazines and books for the one that's got the least value, and likely to be full of crap already.

Esel

PaintDoctor wrote: »

.... the Glass's Guide .....

FYP, just in case anyone is searching for same. Hope tf I'm right!

RedorDead

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Blue book is an American name. In English it's the Glasses Guide. Here, it's called emergency toilet paper - you know, when the normal stuffs run out, and you're looking through all your magazines and books for the one that's got the least value, and likely to be full of crap already.

True - in the past 2 years dealers just take the relative import price from the UK and use that.

gorrrr72

Link to the car sales guide:

http://www.mtp.ie/publications.html

It's only sold to trade though.

It's just a guide, they get their prices from quizzing salesmen and managers on a monthly basis to see what kind of money they are achieving for their used vehicles, then publish an average.

It's all relative to what you are going to pay for your next car though, or your cost to change. The biggest mistake you can make is get hung up on what you are getting for your car.

Where you are buying your car makes a difference too.

For example, if you are buying a new car you will get a better price in Dublin as long as your car is D reg, WW reg, KE reg and to a lesser extent MH reg. Almost any other reg is at a distinct disadvantage in Dublin.
I know it sounds like snobbery (and it is) but it's true.

SouperComputer

The used car prices in the kbb over here are so artificially high its comical. Over and over you hear the terms "well it's below blue book" from dealers. Fact is that prettymuch everything is under blue book.