Warm Propane

clubberlang12

Hey guys, i was looking at some videos of guys using gas powered blow back rifles in cold temperature conditions, close to zero degree's and even below. I researched it a bit more and it seems that they were using "warm propane". I presume they were doing this by filling mags at home at room temperature and then keeping the mags somewhere warm on themselves, i.e- padded inner pockets are such. My question is......has anyone any experience with this approach in our colder conditions. Cheers.

Witcher

It's the same principle as putting mags filled with green gas in a jacket pocket with a hand warmer or such. It'll work for the first fill but the ambient temperature will begin to cool it once it's out of the pocket and once you start firing cool down effect will reduce its effectiveness. The only sure way around cool down etc. is to use Co2 magazines.:)

MerryDespot

Damn right Blay - co2 all the way. I was trying some new stuff out at HRTA today - green gas in 3 degrees = fail. CO2 in 3 degrees = much less fail (but still short of win). Basically, gas for summer, aeg for winter.

clubberlang12

I know ideally we should be using Co2, i had forgot to mention that the rifle i was looking at doesn't seem to have Co2 mag's available so Co2 wouldn't be an option. Cheers for the replies guys though.

NakedDex

If it's a rifle, forget it. Whatever about poor pistol performance (alliteration ftw) in cold weather with green gas, rifles stand no chance.
An average pistol on green gas will just about get a full mag off in 5C weather, and at drastically reduced performance.
An average rifle on green gas will just about get a full mag off in 15C weather sometimes, so at current temperatures it stands no chance.

Leave the GBB rifle at home until the summer, or until CO2 mags are released.

Inari

Warming mags prior to use will work at first, but the ambient temperature, as Blay mentioned, will cause significantly worse cool down, and the pressure will drop. The best way to manipulate your mags is to fill them cold - more gas will be loaded providing greater pressure to cycle the bolt/slide.

Realistically speaking it is not a viable option.