Buying a Graphics card + PSU

GarethBah

Hi guys!, i have a budget of around 300 euro, im thinking of getting

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=GCE11916

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ECE2046254


Would you guys suggest these?? i have an i3 atm and 4gb ram, my PSU is crappy at like 300 watts or something so it must be replaced

massy086

psu http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/7692012/art/corsair/builder-series-cx600-powe.html
gpu http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/7681055/art/asus/radeon-hd-6850-1-gb-gddr5.html
cpu cooling http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/3256297/art/cooler-master/hyper-212-plus-cpu-fan.html

the 212 for overclocking the i3 and your pc should fly along

GarethBah

thanks for the reply mate!, ive never heard of that company.. are they alright?

And also, is there anyway to check if that card will fit in to my machine, legnth wise! i have a hp pavillion elite

massy086

can u send me a link to ur pc cheers

GarethBah

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02490933&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=uk&lang=en&product=4228021

It appears it has a 460w PSU, i seen a link somewhere that said 300 im confused, the real question is, the card you linked, can it run with a 460w PSU?

GarethBah

mhmhm it says PCI Express x16One (None available)

is that because the curent GT320 is in that slot ?

massy086

ye your ok on pcie x16 just remove the card thats in there now the psu all depends what make it is really can you post anything thats wrote on the psu label and sol can look at it and tell you if its any good cheers

GarethBah

are you sure that the gt320 is not just a normal pci card ?

massy086

ye its pci-e
NVIDIA PureVideo® Technology** HD
NVIDIA PhysX™-ready
NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology
Microsoft DirectX 10.1
OpenGL 3.2
Bus Support PCI-E 2.0
Certified for Windows 7

GarethBah

alright!, im gonna open my PC up now and check what the PSU brand is

GarethBah

uhm okay yeah its 460 watts, it says hp(the brand of the PC) and lots of chinese writing :P at the bottom it says delta electronics inc

massy086

if you can post anything that it says numbers on it it will help sol tell you if it will work ok there,s not much he does,nt know about psu,s

GarethBah

uhm numbers!

theres like a barcode.. CT:5AVYC0A4DYX23N

Model DPS-460DB-3 A

GarethBah

It appears that my PSU only has 1 6 pin adapter, does the card you linked me need 1 or 2 adapters

GarethBah

nvm i found an arctile here!
http://www.finestdaily.com/news/new-amd-heroes-hd-6870-and-hd-6850.html

says it only uses 127 WATTS loaded!, and it needs 1 6 pin adapter(which ive got)

Now to see if it will fit in

massy086

well hold off buying it untill sol looks at the post because the psu could be junk

massy086

great deal on this card but you would have to be quick http://www.adverts.ie/hardware/ati-hd-5870/425167#comments

seyeM

http://www.dabs.ie/products/xfx-650w-80--bronze-certified-single-rail-75R9.html

http://www.dabs.ie/products/zotac-geforce-gtx-460-se-680mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-79X9.html?refs=4294963789

These + delivery will give you change from €300.

Beware those HP and Dell PCs though, the usually lock their BIOS to prevent overclocking

GarethBah

cba overclocking

GarethBah

also if i buy

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/7681055/art/asus/radeon-hd-6850-1-gb-gddr5.html


i wont need to get a new PSU, what do you think

seyeM

If you're sure that the PSU can handle it, then go for the 6850, it seems to edge the GTX 460 in performance.

Recommend getting this, will blow the hot air out of your case (given it's HP i'd say fans are non existant).

http://www.dabs.ie/products/xfx-ati-radeon-6850-hd-775mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-7786.html

GarethBah

well, ive seen alot of forums saying it will run fine on 450 watts, and ive got 460 so, i presume it will be fine!

massy086

ye but you have a **** 460 psu i would,nt be so sure wait on sol to look at this thread he will tell you yes or no if a psu blows up it can kill every part of the pc trust me it happend to my mate,s rig

Solitaire

I hate to rain on your parade massy but the CPU cooler is useless - the machine is a regular HP, so no CPU overclocking!

And I'm fairly sure that the PSU is fine. Older versions of the Delta 460DB went up to 432W on the 12V rails so the new version is probably just as good. Plenty of power for a cheap HD6850 or GTX560, just bear in mind that you'll need to find a PCIe splitter because all those cards in that range need two PCIe power connectors (which, given the low power usage and lowish TDP of the HD6850, is a bit barmy! ) and I'm not sure if the new revision of the 460DB has a second 6-pin cable (given its power output its not unrealistic to expect but OEMs are always stingy with cable assignments! ).

GarethBah

according to the interwebz, the card only needs 1 6 pin connector

http://www.finestdaily.com/news/new-amd-heroes-hd-6870-and-hd-6850.html

says the 6850 only needs 1

Solitaire

Yes it does. In other news, I'm being especially thick tonight :pac:

GarethBah

Last question i promise!!, im visiting singapore during the summer, and ive heard its pretty cheap for PC parts, can you make a comment on this

massy086

Solitaire wrote: »

I hate to rain on your parade massy but the CPU cooler is useless - the machine is a regular HP, so no CPU overclocking!

And I'm fairly sure that the PSU is fine. Older versions of the Delta 460DB went up to 432W on the 12V rails so the new version is probably just as good. Plenty of power for a cheap HD6850 or GTX560, just bear in mind that you'll need to find a PCIe splitter because all those cards in that range need two PCIe power connectors (which, given the low power usage and lowish TDP of the HD6850, is a bit barmy! ) and I'm not sure if the new revision of the 460DB has a second 6-pin cable (given its power output its not unrealistic to expect but OEMs are always stingy with cable assignments! ).

ye i coped that after getting specs the 6850 i linked only use,s 1 6 pin but you now know this lol sorry