Guitar recommendations

dingdong1234567

As the title says:
Currently have a Encore strat for 15 years and I am looking to upgrade/treat myself.

I'm mostly into metal, hard rock etc. Was looking at:www.thomann.de/ie/ibanez_rgd320mgs.htm

Or:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/ibanez_s770fm_atf.htm

Any thoughts or suggestions?
Cheers.

darrenw5094

Treat yourself to a PRS Custom 24.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/prs_custom24_wb.htm

dingdong1234567

darrenw5094 wrote: »

Treat yourself to a PRS Custom 24.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/prs_custom24_wb.htm

Thanks for the input. But me thinks €2955 = divorce papers in this instance!

Looking for something budget friendly, around €500-600 perhaps.

Cheers.

balducci

Why don't you try adverts.ie for a 2nd hand one, loads there? keep the money in Ireland and all that. You'll get a far higher grade axe for around 500 2nd hand - keep 60 - 80 for a good set-up which you'll need anyway if you buy from thomann.

Squidgy Black

who needs a wife, a prs will keep you waaaay more satisfied and won't talk back

there's a load of ibanez and schecters etc on adverts.ie for around 500, try each one out and see what's for you

otherwise if you're looking for a semi-hollowbody I've a lovely roberts prs style hollowbody that I wouldn't mind letting go for 500

goblin59

theres a classic ibanez up atm. well worth getting

Nozebleed

This is amazing value..im amazed how cheap they are..im really tempted to buy it myself even though i dont play hard metal..its all one piece of mahogany..ebony neck which is normally on high end guitars. A Gibson SG Standard for example would have a mahogany body and rosewood neck..and they are €1000. so you getting a €1000+ guitar for 400.


the only thing id be worried about is the overall weight of the thing. could be heavy.



http://www.thomann.de/ie/bc_rich_mockingbird_exotic_spalted.htm

Ravelleman

Nozebleed wrote: »

This is amazing value..im amazed how cheap they are..im really tempted to buy it myself even though i dont play hard metal..its all one piece of mahogany..ebony neck which is normally on high end guitars. A Gibson SG Standard for example would have a mahogany body and rosewood neck..and they are €1000. so you getting a €1000+ guitar for 400.

This isn't true, I'm afraid.

A neck-through guitar, by its very nature, has to have a body made of more than one piece of wood. That's how it works. The wood there is also nato, which is not the some as mahogany regardless of how they market it.

The neck isn't ebony - the fretboard is. An ebony fb doesn't imply a more luxurious guitar experience. It's just different to rosewood or maple.

Just because it has features *kind of similar* to the SG Standard doesn't mean it's worth €1000+! You don't take into account pickups, hardware, attention to detail, hardcase...

Mockingbirds are cool and it does look alright for the money, don't get me wrong, but a €1000 guitar it is not.

darrenw5094

There is a reason that the Korean Mockingbird is €389 and not a grand. Or maybe several reasons.

dingdong1234567

stetyrrell wrote: »

who needs a wife, a prs will keep you waaaay more satisfied and won't talk back

there's a load of ibanez and schecters etc on adverts.ie for around 500, try each one out and see what's for you

otherwise if you're looking for a semi-hollowbody I've a lovely roberts prs style hollowbody that I wouldn't mind letting go for 500

Indeed, top stuff. Any pics of that there Roberts PRS style there stetyrrell?

EDIT: Would like to stay with the ST style if poss also. Generally cos its all i know and feel comfortable with i guess.

Nozebleed

Ravelleman wrote: »

This isn't true, I'm afraid.

A neck-through guitar, by its very nature, has to have a body made of more than one piece of wood. That's how it works. The wood there is also nato, which is not the some as mahogany regardless of how they market it.

The neck isn't ebony - the fretboard is. An ebony doesn't imply a more luxurious guitar experience. It's just different to rosewood or maple.

Just because it has features *kind of similar* to the SG Standard doesn't mean it's worth €1000+! You don't take into account pickups, hardware, attention to detail, hardcase...

Mockingbirds are cool and it does look alright for the money, don't get me wrong, but a €1000 guitar it is not.

This is great value. the pick ups are the same as an expensive BC Rich. the body is MAHOGANY!! and the fretboard is ebony. true its not an expensive Mockingbird which would be 3K. it's excellent value and thats the point. who thinks an SG is worth 1K anyway? i certainly dont. attention to detail from gibson is poor these days..all one piece does not mean the guitar will have issues..its a beautiful guitar for the price..considering the price of a new mexican strat.

Ravelleman

USA BC Rich guitars tend to use Dimarzio pickups or EMGs. Rockfield is a brand owned by the parent company of BC Rich and Michael Kelly guitars, used to manufacture 'branded' pickups for mid range south-east Asian guitars, this Mockingbird included.

The body of this guitar is nato. It says so in the description. Nato is not mahogany. From wikipedia, the source of all internet wisdom, "Because of its availability and price, many Chinese and Korean imported guitars use nato in their inexpensive guitars. BC Rich guitars,[1] Eastwood guitars[2] and others manufacturers often refer to nato as "eastern mahogany" due to the use of the more expensive mahogany wood in higher grade instruments."

I don't really understand what you mean about one piece bodies. I didn't say that a one piece body would imply issues with a guitar. In fact, I just said that this guitar most definitely doesn't have a one piece body.

goblin59

I'v never seen a bc rich with dimarzio's tbh, alot of them use seymour duncans. the rockfeild/mafia pickups are a pile of crap though, theyre incredibly thin sounding compared to my dimarzio's, duncan design and EMG's

Ravelleman

The five custom shop BC Rich guitars they have on thomann all have Dimarzios...

Ravelleman

dingdong1234567, for that kind of money you should take a look at Schecter guitars, especially the Blackjack (passive Seymour Duncan pickups) and Hellraiser (active EMGs) series if you want to play metal or hard rock. They're roughly Strat shaped. There's a cheap looking Hellraiser with a Floyd Rose on adverts.ie for €550. That strikes me as being a pretty reasonable deal!

dingdong1234567

Ravelleman wrote: »

dingdong1234567, for that kind of money you should take a look at Schecter guitars, especially the Blackjack (passive Seymour Duncan pickups) and Hellraiser (active EMGs) series if you want to play metal or hard rock. They're roughly Strat shaped. There's a cheap looking Hellraiser with a Floyd Rose on adverts.ie for €550. That strikes me as being a pretty reasonable deal!

Yes they do smell like metal alright. There are a few good looking Schecter on adverts atm. Not overly keen on the Floyd Rose though, not the guitar.....its savage but i have been told and read that the Floyd Rose can be subject to the strings loosing tune etc. Maybe i'm wrong/misinformed?..

Metal.

Ravelleman

It depends on what you're into really. You might find that you grow to love the Floyd after using it for a while.

No trem system is going to be perfect but the Floyd, when set up correctly and made by a reputable company like Schaller or Original Floyd Rose, is normally one of the more reliable and flexible compared to say a vintage style Strat trem, which you can't use and abuse in the same way.

That Hellraiser has an OFR, so you could be fairly confident that it will do what it's supposed to do well.

All guitars will lose their original tuning eventually through play and temperature change etc so I wouldn't worry too much. The locking nut normally stops most of this anyway.

And you could just block it off if you don't use it that much anyway.