Million km Prius

Bigus

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110125/bc_olsen_prius_reliability_110125/20110125?hub=BritishColumbiaHome


Vancouver Cab company with a million km prius brake pads every 175,000 km

opinion guy

Only 40.4 mpg ????

Wait thats american isn't it ?
What does that translate too ?

hoodie6029

48.52 mpg imperial.

thank you http://www.tdiclub.com/misc/conversions.html

Seweryn

hoodie6029 wrote: »

48.52 mpg imperial.

My 20-year old 2-litre Diesel does better than that.

Bigus

opinion guy wrote: »

Only 40.4 mpg ????

Wait thats american isn't it ?
What does that translate too ?

And thats the first gen model 2001

colm_mcm

The first Prius to be used as a cab in Vancouver hit the streets in 2001. * Andrew Grant of Yellow Cab racked up more than 332 thousand kilometers on his 1 st generation Prius before Toyota his 1 generation Prius before Toyota purchased the vehicle back from Mr. Grant in order to study its performance. Another of the original Toyota Prius taxi cabs, Yellow Cab #15, is still on the road today and has driven over 1.3 million kilometers! * Various parts have been replaced during that time, such as three transmissions and five start/stop buttons; but the car has been remarkably durable and a testament to Toyota quality, particularly considering the complex and innovative engineering in the hybrid car technology.

colm_mcm

Seweryn wrote: »

My 20-year old 2-litre Diesel does better than that.

Doing taxi work?

Seweryn

colm_mcm wrote: »

Doing taxi work?

No, just average driving / commuting.

homer90

Man, the thoughts of being stuck in one of them for a million k.
(listening to the best of V8's CD )

Impressive all the same.


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Joe 90

hoodie6029 wrote: »

48.52 mpg imperial.

thank you http://www.tdiclub.com/misc/conversions.html

As far as I can see, a gallon in Canada is an Imperial gallon, not a US gallon. TBH, 40ish mpg seems not too bad for a car of that size.

Bigus

Joe 90 wrote: »

As far as I can see, a gallon in Canada is an Imperial gallon, not a US gallon. TBH, 40ish mpg seems not too bad for a car of that size.

And that's for the first model later ones do better

vectra

No records broken there
Two Taxis in the UK :
One has clocked up over 380,000 Miles on a '07 - Diesel -Taxi driver said the turbo went at around 220k but it's still on the original engine internals, gearbox, etc. He said that he's had TWO clutches and had the timing belt/chain done twice in nearly 400k miles...

Another older one Mk1 has over 600.000 miles on it,.

Yup
you guessed
Both Octavias

DublinDilbert

I'm quite impressed with the 175,000km from a set of pads!

colm_mcm

I presume the regenerative braking helped

Bigus

Here's a set with 123000 miles would nearly do the same again.
yes its the regen braking that saves them and all that energy goes back into the battery instead of heating the brakes.

http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-hybrid-news/89256-prius-haters.html

ToxicPaddy

It sounds to me like Toyota are trying to get some positive news back in the press after all their recalls in North American and the problems they had with cars over there.

Still impressive though. You have to remember too that most of that driving would have been within the city limits so lots of heavy traffic driving, so the mpg isnt that bad..

Seweryn

opinion guy wrote: »

Only 40.4 mpg ????

It would be interesting if they publish running cost per km including the battery pack replacements through the car's life. It may work out more expensive that a V8 petrol engine car :rolleyes:.

pajo1981

Good stuff.

I suppose another secondary advantage of a hybrid system would be that the ICE motor is practically unused during town driving - where most of the wear would normally occur?

Bigus

Seweryn wrote: »

It would be interesting if they publish running cost per km including the battery pack replacements through the car's life. It may work out more expensive that a V8 petrol engine car :rolleyes:.

Read the article no new batteries in 700,000 kms

colm_mcm

Seweryn wrote: »

It would be interesting if they publish running cost per km including the battery pack replacements through the car's life. It may work out more expensive that a V8 petrol engine car :rolleyes:.

the article wrote: »

As for the hybrid battery, which many feared would be a costly part that could wear out, Toyota says it's designed to last the life of the car. The Pruis cab with over a million kilometres got a new battery at 700,000 kilometres, or about 35 years for the average driver.

the article wrote: »

The fuel savings alone is enough to pay off the vehicle in three years and they are very low maintenance.

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Mr.David

Forgive me for being cynical but......

IF Toyota took the car back at certain intervals to 'study' it, what are the chances they saw the PR potential of it making 1 million kms and replaced components without telling the owner....just to make sure it would?

Bigus

Mr.David wrote: »

Forgive me for being cynical but......

IF Toyota took the car back at certain intervals to 'study' it, what are the chances they saw the PR potential of it making 1 million kms and replaced components without telling the owner....just to make sure it would?

Yeah right ! Jim corr by any chance

There's loads of them in the states with ordinary driver's past 300 and 400,000 miles. Have toyota done all them aswell ?

colm_mcm

Mr.David wrote: »

Forgive me for being cynical but......

IF Toyota took the car back at certain intervals to 'study' it, what are the chances they saw the PR potential of it making 1 million kms and replaced components without telling the owner....just to make sure it would?

The one that did a million is another car. guy has a fleet of them. Vancouver is full of Prius taxis.

Anan1

pajo1981 wrote: »

I suppose another secondary advantage of a hybrid system would be that the ICE motor is practically unused during town driving - where most of the wear would normally occur?

The engine will still run in town, it has to charge the batteries.;)

Bigus

Anan1 wrote: »

The engine will still run in town, it has to charge the batteries.;)

No generally it doesn't after its warmed up.

It will cut in if battery is low but it really does spend a huge portion of time off.

Its also always goes off on the slightest overun even at motorway speeds.

squod

One of them has driven over a million kilometres and is still going strong

Million kms in a Toyota. Poor bastard.

pajo1981

Anan1 wrote: »

The engine will still run in town, it has to charge the batteries.;)

I didn't say that the engine never runs in town.

I'm guessing that for the most part a prius' petrol motor will be off when driving slowly around town?

Bigus

pajo1981 wrote: »

I didn't say that the engine never runs in town.

I'm guessing that for the most part a prius' petrol motor will be off when driving slowly around town?

Absolutely, engine nearly always off in traffic hence no NVH.
If its bumper to bumper the battery will happily drive the car along silently for 1.2 miles before needing engine.

Also engine has no starter motor and cuts in like a manual would restart(by dropping the clutch) in forth gear at 40mph, ie hardly discernible.

colm_mcm

only when driving very slowly, if you give it anything resembling beans the petrol engine cuts in.

Bigus

colm_mcm wrote: »

only when driving very slowly, if you give it anything resembling beans the petrol engine cuts in.

Dead right, at least somebody around here has driven one.

dingding

Was in one of these taxi's in Vancouver good boot space. Taxi driver spent most of the time complaining about the exchange rate between the Canadian and us dollar and how much more expensive his boat was going to be.

The cars may be different but the drivers are the same all over the world.

unkel

Fuel economy is brutal for such a small car, compared with a diesel. But a million km in any car is very impressive - let alone in a hybrid!

650Ginge

unkel wrote: »

Fuel economy is brutal for such a small car, compared with a diesel. But a million km in any car is very impressive - let alone in a hybrid![/QUOte

If it is a taxi it is likely to be in town all the time, find me the diesel that gives forty when drive in town by a typical taxi driver.

vectra

unkel wrote: »

Fuel economy is brutal for such a small car, compared with a diesel. But a million km in any car is very impressive - let alone in a hybrid!

You think that is something..
Then have a look at this >>940,000 Miles on a '95 Civic


Or better again 2.6 Million MILES in a Volvo

Bigus

unkel wrote: »

Fuel economy is brutal for such a small car, compared with a diesel. But a million km in any car is very impressive - let alone in a hybrid!

The mpg quoted is for Gen 1 prius from 2001 . Huge advances were made in gen 2 in technology and body strenght/size 2004 onwards

Generation 2 Prius will easily get 45 to 55 mpg without trying. It's a full five seater and qualifies under new taxi regs.
Five star ncap also.
Automatic aswell
So how is it a small car ?

Bigus

Prius not bad in a crash either, lightweight high strength body shell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wg45haoZDg

Bigus

meant to post this one with the landcruiser

Max_Damage

I'd rather stick with a Ford Crown Vic.

Bigus

Max_Damage wrote: »

I'd rather stick with a Ford Crown Vic.

Even if you were paying the fuel and maintenance bills ?

Eric Cartman

Bigus wrote: »

Read the article no new batteries in 700,000 kms

yes but the mileage on that prius was racked up over a hugely short space of time , the average user wouldnt have that done in 10 years, yet the chemical life of the battery is 7 years or something , they made it degrade in less than 5 , but the average user will have to change the battery after 5-6 years

L1011

Bigus wrote: »

It's a full five seater and qualifies under new taxi regs.

It doesn't actually. It gets let off because its a hybrid. If you look at the spreadsheet the TR provided the Prius Mk2 fails on both boot space and shoulder space in rear seats but is allowed anyway.

Chippy01

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the average user will have to change the battery after 5-6 years

You have proof of this?