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UN human rights official claims 9/11 was US plot

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  • 27-01-2011 12:02am
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    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭


    Self-hating Jew http://undhimmi.com/2010/07/01/fox-henhouse-overcrowded/#more-11215 and target of the ADL http://www.adl.org/international/Israel_un_human.asp?m_flipmode=8 Richard Falk, a retired professor from Princeton University, wrote on his blog that there had been an "apparent cover up" by American authorities.

    He added that most media were "unwilling to acknowledge the well-evidenced doubts about the official version of the events" on 9/11, despite it containing "gaps and contradictions".

    And he described David Ray Griffin, a conspiracy theorist a retired Professor and author and highly regarded in the so-called "9/11 truth" movement, as a "scholar of high integrity" whose book on the subject was "authoritative".

    Ban Ki-Moon, the UN Secretary-General, described the comments as "preposterous" but didn't say why and "an affront to the memory of the more than 3,000 people who died in the attack but didn't say why." But Mr Ban said that it was not for him to decide whether Prof Falk, who serves the organisation as a special investigator into human rights abuses in the Palestinian territories, should be fired by the UN for having an opinion.

    Vijay Nambiar, Mr Ban's chief of staff, said this was up to the human rights council, a 47-nation body based in Geneva, Switzerland, that was created by the UN in 2006.

    UN Watch the Geneva-based affiliate of the American Jewish Committee http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=872349&ct=872849 ., a pressure group that monitors the organisation for Zionist interests, has called for Prof Falk to be sacked. Hilel Neuer, the group's chief executive, described him as "a serial offender (of exposing Israeli crimes) with zero credibility (amongst the Israel Lobby)" because he has been rightly vocal about Israeli war crimes and human rights abuses.

    The row came as the new Republican-led US Congress opened an inquiry into "urgent problems" with America's contribution to the UN, including its membership of the human rights council.

    Bought and paid for Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=200662 , the chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, which held its first hearing on the subject yesterday [TUESDAY], wants Barack Obama to pull the US out of the human rights council and attack Iran for Israel.

    She The AIPAC mouthpiece has pledged to try to "kill all US fundin and for that beast," which she described as a "rogues' gallery" for "pariah states".
    I'm sure this doesn't need saying but red text is mine.

    This is the relevant section from his blog:
    The arguments swirling around the 9/11 attacks are emblematic of these issues. What fuels suspicions of conspiracy is the reluctance to address the sort of awkward gaps and contradictions in the official explanations that David Ray Griffin(and other devoted scholars of high integrity) have been documenting in book after book ever since his authoritative The New Pearl Harbor in 2004 (updated in 2008). What may be more distressing than the apparent cover up is the eerie silence of the mainstream media, unwilling to acknowledge the well-evidenced doubts about the official version of the events: an al Qaeda operation with no foreknowledge by government officials. Is this silence a manifestation of fear or cooption, or part of an equally disturbing filter of self-censorship? Whatever it is, the result is the withering away of a participatory citizenry and the erosion of legitimate constitutional government. The forms persist, but the content is missing.
    http://richardfalk.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/interrogating-the-arizona-killings-from-a-safe-distance/


    Hmmmm.......The Zionist lobby out in force to shut down a public figure who questions just aspects of 9-11. Wonder why?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    I'm sure this doesn't need saying but red text is mine.

    Who's is the rest of it?

    (edit)

    This part of teh blog entry I find very interesting (Added emphasis mine):
    What must we learn from all of this? Don’t connect dots without evidence. Don’t turn away as soon as the words ‘conspiracy theory’ are uttered, especially if the evidence does point away from what the power-wielders want us to believe. Don’t link individual wrongdoing, however horrific, to wider religious and ethnic identities. We will perish as a species if we don’t learn soon to live together better on our beautiful, globalizing, and imperiled planet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Ban Ki-Moon, the UN Secretary-General, described the comments as "preposterous" but didn't say why and "an affront to the memory of the more than 3,000 people who died in the attack but didn't say why

    I'm taking a wild stab at Ban Ki-Moon's intent here, but maybe it might have something to do with the sensitivities of those 9/11 victim families to hear ludicrous 'theories' propounded on a regular basis, which distract from those actually culpable, and turning their tragedy into a conspiracy plaything?

    ....Hmmmm.......The Zionist lobby out in force to shut down a public figure who questions just aspects of 9-11. Wonder why?

    Again, a wild guess, but they'd rather not have people tarnishing them with accusations of involvment in something they had nothing to do with? Particularly when there's a loyal gang of anti-semites only too happy to propogate the, yep - they're right on this score, blood libel.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    alastair wrote: »
    I'm taking a wild stab at Ban Ki-Moon's intent here, but maybe it might have something to do with the sensitivities of those 9/11 victim families to hear ludicrous 'theories' propounded on a regular basis, which distract from those actually culpable, and turning their tragedy into a conspiracy plaything?

    These family members?


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    We believe a new investigation is our only path forward to the answers and accountability every American deserves and our only path back to the moral high ground upon which our great nation was built.
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    Should all those people lose their jobs too for seeking answers and justice?

    Don't hear you mention the hundreds of thousands of innocent victims in Iraq and Afghanistan as much.
    alastair wrote: »
    Again, a wild guess, but they'd

    "They'd"??

    Don't you mean "we'd"?
    Seems like the original zionists weren't such a bad bunch, and if advocates for Israel amount to contemporary 'zionists', then I've no real problem with that either. I'm a supporter of the ongoing existence of the state of Israel
    alastair wrote: »
    rather not have people tarnishing them with accusations of involvment in something they had nothing to do with?

    Once again you've proven to be unfamiliar with the simplest of facts.

    He, a Jewish Professor was referring to the US GOVERNMENT.

    Take a few moments to let this sink in...

    He makes no mention of Israel. I did. BECAUSE the attack dogs from Zionist front groups and traitor shills (funded to office by a group that spies on the US) in the US Congress were attacking him.

    And why? For arriving at a conclusion that is partially at odds with the official™ version. That's a joke.

    What it does do is clearly demonstrate why more academics wouldn't speak out as the the witch-hunt is severe and instantaneous.

    Do you think that Professor Falk has only very recently come to his conclusions regarding 9-11 or has been keeping quiet about it previously fearing a backlash?
    alastair wrote: »
    Particularly when there's a loyal gang of anti-semites only too happy to propogate the, yep - they're right on this score, blood libel.

    Haha! Sarah? Sarah Palin is that really you?

    Listen to yourself ffs.

    This
    The arguments swirling around the 9/11 attacks are emblematic of these issues. What fuels suspicions of conspiracy is the reluctance to address the sort of awkward gaps and contradictions in the official explanations that David Ray Griffin(and other devoted scholars of high integrity) have been documenting in book after book ever since his authoritative The New Pearl Harbor in 2004 (updated in 2008). What may be more distressing than the apparent cover up is the eerie silence of the mainstream media, unwilling to acknowledge the well-evidenced doubts about the official version of the events: an al Qaeda operation with no foreknowledge by government officials. Is this silence a manifestation of fear or cooption, or part of an equally disturbing filter of self-censorship? Whatever it is, the result is the withering away of a participatory citizenry and the erosion of legitimate constitutional government. The forms persist, but the content is missing.
    http://richardfalk.wordpress.com/201...safe-distance/

    = "Blood Libel?" :pac:
    Blood libel (also blood accusation) refers to a false accusation or claim that religious minorities, usually Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays.

    Your taking the piss now right?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    bonkey wrote: »
    Who's is the rest of it?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8281125/UN-human-rights-official-claims-911-was-US-plot.html.

    Yesterdays Daily Telegraph. Sorry thought I'd linked it.
    (edit)
    bonkey wrote: »
    This part of teh blog entry I find very interesting (Added emphasis mine):

    Yeah. I'd share his opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,444 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I would like to remind everyone of the following sections of the forum charter:
    Please don't use sweeping generalisations which indirectly attack or belittle other posters here. Posts which are insulting to those who believe conspiracies / the mainstream, for example, may be considered to be insulting to other posters, and as such will not be tolerated.

    The very nature of a conspiracy theory means that it will be unpalatable to some. Individuals, Corporations, Interest Groups, and collectives of all sorts will inevitably be suspected (and accused) of involvement in any manner of activities.

    Breaches of the forum charter may lead to infractions and/or bans.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    These family members?

    Nope - the multiple times greater numbers of families that have no belief in half-baked theories. But then you knew that already.
    "They'd"??

    Don't you mean "we'd"?

    I'm pretty sure I meant what I said, and while I can only assume you believe there's some sort of fantasic expose at play there, you'll only disappoint yourself again.



    He, a Jewish Professor was referring to the US GOVERNMENT.

    Take a few moments to let this sink in...

    He makes no mention of Israel. I did. BECAUSE the attack dogs from Zionist front groups and traitor shills (funded to office by a group that spies on the US) in the US Congress were attacking him.

    Thanks for proving their point (again). The entire 9/11 conspiracy circus is inextricably linked with casual anti-semitism, not because of 'Zionist front groups (cringe), but the ongoing obsession with Jewish cabals of one shade or another, that CT'ers insist be drawn into their fantasies - 'dancing Israelis' included.
    And why? For arriving at a conclusion that is partially at odds with the official™ version. That's a joke.

    'Partially at odds'? Disingenuous much?

    = "Blood Libel?" :pac:

    Your taking the piss now right?


    Not at all. The claim that the Israelis were complicit in 9/11 is about as bigoted and deranged as the older bigoted and deranged blood libel. Old bias, new cllothes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    alastair wrote: »
    The claim that the Israelis were complicit in 9/11 is about as bigoted and deranged as the older bigoted and deranged blood libel. Old bias, new cllothes.

    Almost as bigoted as the claim that because 17 out of 18 of the hijackers being Saudi meant it was a Saudi attack - personally from this fact alone I realised immediately that Saddam Hussein, a secularist, was in fact the perpetrator and those nasty iraqis in their hundreds of thousands needed wiped out immediately ...

    Weapons of Mass Destruction? Geesus thanks for that excuse - let get Blair to get his men to top the chap in charge saying there are no WMD ....

    Saudis - what Saudis?

    If there was such a flight attack on London and 17 out of the 18 attackers were Irish it would be hard for the UK government to justify an attack on the French...

    Never mind folk claiming that Cuba was behind it all.


    Alastair I am no fan of Israel nor Zionism but here I have to agree.


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