Getting a ESB pole moved

wclarke20

Hi
Has anybody any experience with getting ESB poles moved? I have planning permission but I can’t start foundations until I get this pole moved. Rang ESB but they said the cost of moving is at the discretion of the local office (which is unmanned mostly so have to post in my query)

My architect mentioned that if the pole was within a certain distance of the house, it’s free to move.

I was wondering about the cost and time it takes them to come out. Anybody any ideas? I’m living in Meath.

Thanks.

mad m

Had same trouble good few years back, their ESB pole was not on boundary wall outside my house. ESB engineer came out and they would foot half the bill which at the time was 3000punt..... Now the pole in question was the end of line pole, so more work had to be done.

Asked the neighbour to go halfs at the time, but he said no. Few weeks ago an Engineer was looking at pole and I told him I tried to get it moved, he laughed and said well this one is rotten and we are moving it plus replacing it with an aluminium one....:D

So try and get someone to come out and see what they say...

awnow

You may have already seen this link?
http://www.esb.ie/esbnetworks/en/domestic-customers/existing_poles_lines.jsp

sky6

A lot will depend on what the pole is actually doing, What I mean is how much power it's carrying and where it's going.
I had the same problem a couple of years back in getting two poles moved side by side. At the time it was explained to me like this. It was just moving the poles that was no problem to them. The problem was they were high voltage cables which meant knocking out a large area for a few hours. Also moving it had to begin a few fields away. In short I was told it was unlikely to happen as it would be cost prohibitive to me. As Look would have it with the help of a friend in the esb it became possible for reasons more suitable to the esb and I got it done ok.

moan 77

Thats the only way the ESB will move anything is with pressure, i had same problem last year with a pole and line right in the middle of planned house, had to call in a favour from local ESB man as i was told in office that it wasn't their fault i wanted to build there but low and behold it was done after i reminded him that access might be needed to our farm for other ESB work. I had to do all of the donkey work for them, I nearly had to erect the pole and pull the cable which they now wanted underground.
The ESB is the law and we have to put up with it asking nicely won't work, so if ya have a trump card play it, if not keep asking nicely each and every week.

loremolis

Hi,

Second post in Boards on ESB.

If the pole is preventing you from implementing you planning permission the Sections 19 & 20 of the 1934 Electricity Supply Amendment Act are relevant here.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1934/en/act/pub/0038/sec0020.html
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1934/en/act/pub/0038/sec0019.html

Even a single distribution pole requires an easement if it is interfering with your property rights.

You need to write to the ESB detailing that you are prevented from implementing your planning permission because of their pole.

Let me know if you want assistance with the wording of the letter.

nulabert

As one of the posters mentioned, it depends on what the pole is carrying. Is it a single wire? If so, its probably a low voltage line and there shouldn't be a problem. Also, different lines and line types have different spans. Moving a pole may result in 2 poles as the spans may not be able to be achieved. Also, changing the angle of the line (lines are in a straight line) may require a structue (2 poles with bracing) and this may need to be erected in your neighbours property.

My experience with the ESB was a long one. The best thing to do is get talking to the lads on the ground and find out exactly who you should be talking to in the office.

loremolis

Why isn't there a clearly defined procedure for dealing with this type of situation.

It's such an Irish solution to an Irish Problem.

The ESB don't make it easy for anyone because they don't have to.

It suits them to make it difficult to move a pole if it's in your way because it works out cheaper for them to do it that way. No other reason.

They send out their stooges to talk to the landowner because that way;

1. They see how strong the person is and how likely they are to kick up a fuss about the pole/line thats in their way and,

2. They avoid writing anything that might inciminate them if the landowner gets really pissed off and sues them.

One of my neighbours had the ESB out twice to move a HV (22kv) line, the first time to allow him to build the house, the second time to build his shed as they didn't re-route enough to give clearence for the shed.

I have never had any issues when dealing with the ESB, I recently got them to move a transformer from one pole to another so another so another neighbour could get a new supply to their house.

loremolis

One of my neighbours had the ESB out twice to move a HV (22kv) line, the first time to allow him to build the house, the second time to build his shed as they didn't re-route enough to give clearence for the shed.

Is that a 220kv? On the large steel pylons?

If so, do you know if the ESB had to get planning permission for the alteration or how did the alter the line?

loremolis

loremolis wrote: »

Is that a 220kv? On the large steel pylons?

If so, do you know if the ESB had to get planning permission for the alteration or how did the alter the line?

No it was one of the three phase local distribution lines (22kv* not 220kv), three wires horizontal at the top of the pole.

*That's the voltage the ESB engineer told me.

Davy

It would be 20kv. 220kv is pylons

Davy

Davy wrote: »

It would be 20kv. 220kv is pylons

That sounds right, It's written on the transformer but I'm not at home...