HDMI, WHAT CABLE TO USE.

oldhead

Hi,

Just looking for some advice. i have my house just first fixed and i am trying to finish off the TV system. i am running all my TV, Sound etc back to a cabinet. the nearest tv would be within 10m but the longest one could be approx 35m to 40m away. what am i going to do. i have heard of baluns but i dont no anything about them. do i use cat 5, cat 6, shielded or un sheilded, co-ax. what would the best way be so that the picture doesnt loose its quality.

any other advice greatly accepted on how people would wire their sound/Tv systems if they were doing it again.

does anyone know where a man would buy motorised blinds in ireland. i want to leave the correct cabling there in case i win the lotto in the future to put in my tv room.

many thanks in advance

elderlemon

cat 5/6 is all you need. Coax is no longer needed as you can get adapters for everything these days. You can even run (limited) power over it if needed.

The best way is to run cables from every point back to a single distribution point. That way you can patch any device to any outlet and feed or distribute to any room.

For sound I always suggest that people invest in a sound amp/av system. Connect all your devices via hdmi into this amp and then a single hdmi out to the tv. You can also connect in mp3/ipod etc to the amp and any game consoles. Again the speaker outputs go back to the central distribution cab and then to the speakers. My amp also handles a second zone so that you can control the music on two different floors/rooms if needed.

Also get an all in one remote and control everything from one place.

oldhead wrote: »

Hi,

Just looking for some advice. i have my house just first fixed and i am trying to finish off the TV system. i am running all my TV, Sound etc back to a cabinet. the nearest tv would be within 10m but the longest one could be approx 35m to 40m away. what am i going to do. i have heard of baluns but i dont no anything about them. do i use cat 5, cat 6, shielded or un sheilded, co-ax. what would the best way be so that the picture doesnt loose its quality.

any other advice greatly accepted on how people would wire their sound/Tv systems if they were doing it again.

does anyone know where a man would buy motorised blinds in ireland. i want to leave the correct cabling there in case i win the lotto in the future to put in my tv room.

many thanks in advance

watty

You need coax for TV aerial and satellite. No-way does Cat5e replace that.
2 x Cat5e for HMDI, but only up to 15m
long distance HDMI adaptors use Coax.

oldhead

watty wrote: »

You need coax for TV aerial and satellite. No-way does Cat5e replace that.
2 x Cat5e for HMDI, but only up to 15m
long distance HDMI adaptors use Coax.

Watty,

cheers for that. does it matter what co ax i use and where would i buy the baluns for this if i use it. does the quality suffer

watty

CAt5e doesn't need baluns for HDMI. But it does need Sheilded cable. The HDMI clock and data signal are already balanced pairs.

The HDMI over coax doesn't use Baluns either. It's a pair of boxes.

VGA or SCART over Cat5e does use baluns. But a purpose made box with switch compensation for distance is best as these are Analogue.

Satellite and Aerial of course natively uses coax. TX100 or PF100 or similar is best.

oldhead

watty wrote: »

CAt5e doesn't need baluns for HDMI. But it does need Sheilded cable. The HDMI clock and data signal are already balanced pairs.

The HDMI over coax doesn't use Baluns either. It's a pair of boxes.

VGA or SCART over Cat5e does use baluns. But a purpose made box with switch compensation for distance is best as these are Analogue.

Satellite and Aerial of course natively uses coax. TX100 or PF100 or similar is best.

i was just on to a shop there that supply baluns. he said that the best way to do it is to run 2 un shielded cat5e cables from source to the tv and put a balun on each end, or if i wished to invest at a later date a matrix box or something like that, where i will only require 1 balun and the other end plugs into the matrix via an rg45. what to do. didi you ever hear of this type???????

plu

oldhead wrote: »

Hi,

Just looking for some advice. i have my house just first fixed and i am trying to finish off the TV system. i am running all my TV, Sound etc back to a cabinet. the nearest tv would be within 10m but the longest one could be approx 35m to 40m away. what am i going to do. i have heard of baluns but i dont no anything about them. do i use cat 5, cat 6, shielded or un sheilded, co-ax. what would the best way be so that the picture doesnt loose its quality.

any other advice greatly accepted on how people would wire their sound/Tv systems if they were doing it again.

does anyone know where a man would buy motorised blinds in ireland. i want to leave the correct cabling there in case i win the lotto in the future to put in my tv room.

many thanks in advance

35 - 40 metres is long okay?

Could you put cabinet in more central location and cut this distance and use actual HDMI cables?

watty

http://www.techtir.ie/howto/hdmi-via-cat5-cable

To run 35m put an £12 HDMI repeater amp in the middle.

The "baluns" is for Analogue video. HDMI is already a balanced signal.

Any Cat5e not on cable trays or in conduits should be STP, plenum grade, not UTP. In anycase the HDMI needs shielded cable, even in a conduit

You also need 2 or 3 PF100 or TX100 type coax to each TV point for possible Satellite PVRs or DTT tuners in TVs unless you are having NO TV sets and only monitors.

oldhead

watty wrote: »

http://www.techtir.ie/howto/hdmi-via-cat5-cable

To run 35m put an £12 HDMI repeater amp in the middle.

The "baluns" is for Analogue video. HDMI is already a balanced signal.

Any Cat5e not on cable trays or in conduits should be STP, plenum grade, not UTP. In anycase the HDMI needs shielded cable, even in a conduit

You also need 2 or 3 PF100 or TX100 type coax to each TV point for possible Satellite PVRs or DTT tuners in TVs unless you are having NO TV sets and only monitors.

Cheers Watty

i had already started running the cables. i have ran 2 normal cat5e (not sheilded), 2 co ax cables, and i cat6 cable to each point from my central location. hopefully between all this something will work.

Antenna

watty wrote: »

http://www.techtir.ie/howto/hdmi-via-cat5-cable

You also need 2 or 3 PF100 or TX100 type coax to each TV point for possible Satellite PVRs or DTT tuners in TVs unless you are having NO TV sets and only monitors.

Even 4 coax cables to TV with main Skybox in house is advised.
The 4th cable for the modulator RF-out of the Sky box to send to a distribution to other TVs without satellite receivers around the house. Even if HDMI distribution is used to other TVs its a worthwhile backup if that gives trouble.