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What does 'an eye for an eye" mean?

  • 23-01-2011 5:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭


    I always thought it meant that if somebody harms/kills somebody else, he/she must be equally harmed/killed. This belief was not helped by John Hume constantly invoking Gandhi on our TV screens with 'an eye for an eye makes everyone blind".

    The other day I was at a talk on redistributive justice and the speaker said that the expression in fact means that if somebody takes your eye, they must be your eye - not that you have some biblical right to physically take their eye. The example the speaker gave of this in operation in ancient societies was, interestingly, from the Ulster Cycle: when young Setanta killed the cú/hound of a smith named Culann, Culann lamented that he had lost his protector because of Setanta's action and that from now on, Setanta had an obligation to protect him. Hence Setanta became Cú Chulainn.

    So, what do you think 'an eye for an eye' means?

    What does 'an eye for an eye' mean? 48 votes

    That if somebody commits a wrong, the same wrong must be committed on them
    0%
    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    100%
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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    equal retribution for harm done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    The speaker was wrong.

    It means a punishment equal to the offence.

    The poll options could equally be right, though. They must compensate you for the loss, equal to the damage done to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Always thought of it as payback in form. Someone harms you, you return the favour.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    First time I've heard that phrase explained as they must be your eye..


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    You take my eye, I have the right to take your eye.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    Whatever the words origins common understanding would be that it's describing a like for like punishment. Interesting to know the etymology of it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    '' do harm onto me or my family and I'll return same in kind ''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    The speaker was wrong.

    It means a punishment equal to the offence.

    Says who??

    Personally, I prefer the OP's story, so that's what it means.

    Perhaps a better question would be, which would you LIKE it to mean?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    Interesting to know the etymology of it though.

    T'is from the Bible...

    http://www.topical-bible-studies.org/31-0016.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    This is a common mistake. It's actually "An i for an i", it's a common phrase among young hipsters. It means to compare Apple products, like this:

    OMG, you have to come check out my new 500 tb ipod, it's so small you could wrap it in a stamp.

    Loike wow, that's almost as cool as my new ipad cube. It's an ipad 4, cubed, so it's loike 4 times as good.

    Yeah, but see my über iped. It's the latest. It's not like an ipad, which is like an ipod but a bit bigger and with an "a" instead of an "o", the iped is bigger again and with an "e" instead of an "a".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    That if somebody commits a wrong on you, they must compensate you for your loss
    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Says who??

    Personally, I prefer the OP's story, so that's what it means.

    Perhaps a better question would be, which would you LIKE it to mean?

    In retaliation, I will not believe one of your posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    In retaliation I will not believe one of your posts.

    Good idea. Pick the one you quoted and we'll start a wrold-ending paradox :D

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I'll show you mine if you show me yours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The OP version so0unds all well and good but I'm with Charles Bronson on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    It really means i'll bleedin' batter you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Steve Jobs has the answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Chuck Norris movie.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The actual meaning is to LIMIT retribution to that which was originally caused.

    So it should say, ONLY an eye for an eye.




    Nowadays we try to rehabilitate offenders as punishment was considered par for the course for many repeat offenders.


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