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What are labour and FG thinking?

  • 22-01-2011 9:15pm
    #1
    steve9859
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    We have an election in the next few weeks. They will get their chance soon enough. So why push these no-confidence motions?

    We have had enough bad press internationally in the last few weeks. We are a laughing stock. But now we have the opportunity to quieten things down, and have an orderly election. Instead, if lab/FG get their way, the government will collapse. Can u imagine the international headlines! It will be incredibly damaging!

    Some will say that it doesn't matter; that it can't get any worse. I disagree. International sentiment can always get worse, and the collapse of a government will make us sound like a tin pot 3rd world country. Why can FG just not wait 8 weeks?


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  • #2
    rockmongrel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭rockmongrel


    It's gotten to the point where I don't give a fook any more. I honestly believe that more damage will be done with FF still in power than what the rest of the world will think of us. Plus for the mental health of the country, the sooner they're gone, the better.


  • #3
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Labour and FG are just using Dáil time to try and hurry up things so they can get their pay rises quicker.


  • #4
    flutered
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    Min wrote: »
    Labour and FG are just using Dáil time to try and hurry up things so they can get their pay rises quicker.

    you are wrong, since it is spring time they are just pruneing dead wood, so stronger more vibrant growth can begin.


  • #5
    EricPraline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭EricPraline


    steve9859 wrote: »
    We have had enough bad press internationally in the last few weeks. We are a laughing stock. But now we have the opportunity to quieten things down, and have an orderly election. Instead, if lab/FG get their way, the government will collapse. Can u imagine the international headlines! It will be incredibly damaging!

    Some will say that it doesn't matter; that it can't get any worse. I disagree. International sentiment can always get worse, and the collapse of a government will make us sound like a tin pot 3rd world country. Why can FG just not wait 8 weeks?
    I agree that international sentiment matters. But not sure I'd agree with your interpretation of the international viewpoint. From the perspective of the EU, the IMF, investors, MNCs etc, a stable government is paramount. A change of government is inevitable, so from their point of view a swift, decisive transition to a new stable administration is probably preferable.

    A protracted two month period of uncertainty does nobody any favours, except perhaps Fianna Fail.


  • #6
    Min
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    flutered wrote: »
    you are wrong, since it is spring time they are just pruneing dead wood, so stronger more vibrant growth can begin.


    It is still winter, I worry if our new leaders don't even know what time of year it is.


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  • #7
    dOlier
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    steve9859 wrote: »
    We have an election in the next few weeks. They will get their chance soon enough. So why push these no-confidence motions?

    We have had enough bad press internationally in the last few weeks. We are a laughing stock. . . if lab/FG get their way, the government will collapse. Can u imagine the international headlines! . . .


    The country is in crisis: we NEED a new government A.S.A.P.!!!!

    But it is not in FF, or FG+ Labs interest to have a quick election.

    The longer it takes, the better chance FF will have to recover . . and the greater the exposure of differences between FG and Lab.


  • #8
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    nah I think they're right. We're a laughing stock now that he has stood down as leader and not Taoiseach


  • #9
    d22ontour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭d22ontour


    dOlier wrote: »

    the better chance FF will have to recover . .

    Considering the past few years the only hope they left themselves is by not touching their beloved ps/cs..This time it won't be enough thankfully.


  • #10
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    dOlier wrote: »
    The country is in crisis: we NEED a new government A.S.A.P.!!!!

    But it is not in FF, or FG+ Labs interest to have a quick election.

    The longer it takes, the better chance FF will have to recover . . and the greater the exposure of differences between FG and Lab.

    Yeah better to have the election sooner, so we can go from Eastenders to Fair City and watch FG and Labour fight instead of FF with themselves and with the Greens.

    I wonder how long till Richard Bruton decides he wants to be Taoiseach and then Eamon says he wants to be Taoiseach but Enda says neither are as he is Taoiseach.
    Don't you just love soap operas...


  • #11
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    Min wrote: »
    It is still winter, I worry if our new leaders don't even know what time of year it is.
    my garden tells me it is springtime, you are a couple of degrees south of me so it should be springtime in k/kenny as well.


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  • #12
    meditraitor
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    Min wrote: »
    Labour and FG are just using Dáil time to try and hurry up things so they can get their pay rises quicker.

    What a bullshit post.....


  • #13
    K_user
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    steve9859 wrote: »
    We have an election in the next few weeks. They will get their chance soon enough. So why push these no-confidence motions?
    Its called panic.

    An election tomorrow will give FG and Labour a good result. But if a new leader FF gets put in place and is given the time to put an agenda together, then the outcome mightn’t be so clear.

    For example, lets say a woman becomes the leader of the FF party. It is possible that many voters might like the idea of putting a woman in charge. She could be seen as very different option to what we’ve had before. And if she proves in some way popular over the next few months, then FF mightn’t be crushed after all.

    Pure speculation, but a week is a long time in politics, a couple of months is as good as a couple of years.

    FG and Labour are attacking like dogs because they are afraid that they’ll lose the advantage.


  • #14
    Leiva
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    Think about it ...

    The ultimate victory for FG and Labour would be for a GE in the morning.
    Imagine how FF would come outta that one .Pretty much nonexistent if you ask me.

    So the way FG and Labour see it is the longer they leave FF in Govt.( in this case 8 weeks ) then the more chance they have of scraping more votes.

    The quicker they eject them the more damage will be inflicted.

    Sounds pretty good to me .

    (ps) don't worry about the international press , it's just the Irish again having a drunken scrap in the corner of Europe...Ah sure we will be hugging and kissing soon :rolleyes:


  • #15
    Min
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    flutered wrote: »
    my garden tells me it is springtime, you are a couple of degrees south of me so it should be springtime in k/kenny as well.

    You don't know your seasons.

    The past number of days it was frost day and night.

    btw for anyone who thinks the statement about getting pay rises sooner was an serious comment are in fact mistaken, even if it is likely to be the case.


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