.222 rem

rock garden

Hi lads Am i correct in my thinking that the triple duece is not very popular in the south . If so whats the reason behind this . Just curious .

Tackleberrywho

rock garden wrote: »

Hi lads Am i correct in my thinking that the triple duece is not very popular in the south . If so whats the reason behind this . Just curious .

I know of 2.
One was held in the Park for 30 years or so. The other was bought new.

Ammo is not readily available. I had to try 4 RFD's to source ANY branded ammo for my mate.

landkeeper

basically cos we couldn't have them then when the regulations were relaxed the 223 was the calibre of choice , readily available lots of choice in firearms and dozens of ammo varieties therefore it hasn't become fashionable in the way the 223 has

ssl

Two of my mates have CZ .222. Great foxing round.
I'd personally go for a 22-250 as you'd have the option of using it for deer.

the lough

what grain bullets does the 22-250 handle? was thinking of getting a 223 for the range of ammo

rock garden

ssl wrote: »

Two of my mates have CZ .222. Great foxing round.
I'd personally go for a 22-250 as you'd have the option of using it for deer.

HI i have a cz in .222 rem was toying with the ideal of changing to a.223 rem .but was also told i would be better going with a 22_250. Its just that there is a big jump in powder for whats seems very little gain in range . rifle will be for lamp use 80% of time and the odd grey crow. Happy with .222 but something keeps bugging me about changing to .223, regards RG.

the lough

was thinking of 223 for foxes and long range vermin also own 22lr for bunnies and 6.5 for deer.Shame to get rid of 22 cheap to run and great rifle for summer months

sikastag

Not being funny. But why change? Are you based up north? if so ammo availability should definetely not be an issue. Interestingly enough, most leading american ammunition manufacturers (Hornady, Remington) seem to chamber more rounds in the .223 but most leading european manufacturers (Norma, RWS) seem to chamber a larger variety of rounds for the .222.

rock garden

sikastag wrote: »

Not being funny. But why change? Are you based up north? if so ammo availability should definetely not be an issue. Interestingly enough, most leading american ammunition manufacturers (Hornady, Remington) seem to chamber more rounds in the .223 but most leading european manufacturers (Norma, RWS) seem to chamber a larger variety of rounds for the .222.

Funny enough i think that m
yself.Ammo is not a problem as i reload .The main reason i think about moving up to .223 is the slightly extra yardage. When i moved from .22 wmr up to centrefire for fox control there was a cap on calibers .222 being the maximum .Had there not been a cap in place .223 would of been my caliber of choice.As there is no longer a cap and i could get a .223 it has always left me thinking . Have shot 13 foxes since september all inside roughly 120 yards all but 2 droped at shot. Have 2 very accurate loads for my cz both will shoot inside half an inch @ 100 yds .So dont know what to do .

sikastag

rock garden wrote: »

Funny enough i think that m
yself.Ammo is not a problem as i reload .The main reason i think about moving up to .223 is the slightly extra yardage. When i moved from .22 wmr up to centrefire for fox control there was a cap on calibers .222 being the maximum .Had there not been a cap in place .223 would of been my caliber of choice.As there is no longer a cap and i could get a .223 it has always left me thinking . Have shot 13 foxes since september all inside roughly 120 yards all but 2 droped at shot. Have 2 very accurate loads for my cz both will shoot inside half an inch @ 100 yds .So dont know what to do .

Personally, i think for foxes. .222 is well capable to 300m with a small bit of range work. Lucky git! If your in a position to reload I think .222 might be more suitable, longer neck and less charge required would be two factors swinging in its favour. Still, if ya want longer ranges then maybe a step up needed. instead of 22-250 or .223,maybe even .243 is the way to go with something like a 55-60 grn for charlie? Be nice and flat and give you versatility for bambi (with a heavier bullet) if you were that way inclined.

stick shooter

The .222 is a great foxing round but the limiting factor is the price and availability of ammo, when you take on the other hand every gun shop has the .223 ammo ,priced from 10 euro up to 30 euro some thing to suit all budgets which is most important .

rugerman

ive heard great things about the 222 but never saw one in action my local gundealer has hundreds of rounds for it on shelf but nobody has ever enquired about one . down our way every one has a 30-06 drive 20 mile and everyone there has a 270 just whatever old joesoap has. me think anyway:D

sikastag

rugerman wrote: »

ive heard great things about the 222 but never saw one in action my local gundealer has hundreds of rounds for it on shelf but nobody has ever enquired about one . down our way every one has a 30-06 drive 20 mile and everyone there has a 270 just whatever old joesoap has. me think anyway:D

Rugerman, do you know what brand your local RFD has in stock in .222?

Sorry to the OP for going off thread a little.

Commish

Hi, i know the thread is a few months old but thought id throw my speak in. I recently went out to try out .223 and .222 to see which one to purchase. Found the .222 to be that bit more accurte. I was very impressed so done a bit of research on ammo. Emailed a few companies and was surprised to find the "deuce" is making a bit of a comeback. Definitely not heading towards the areas of extinction, winchester, federal and lapua are still producing this round due to demand for it.
I ended up going with the .222 Weihrauch, its unreal accurate and dont be worrying about the ammo theres plenty of it out there.

Tackleberrywho

Commish wrote: »

Hi, i know the thread is a few months old but thought id throw my speak in. I recently went out to try out .223 and .222 to see which one to purchase. Found the .222 to be that bit more accurte. I was very impressed so done a bit of research on ammo. Emailed a few companies and was surprised to find the "deuce" is making a bit of a comeback. Definitely not heading towards the areas of extinction, winchester, federal and lapua are still producing this round due to demand for it.
I ended up going with the .222 Weihrauch, its unreal accurate and dont be worrying about the ammo theres plenty of it out there.

http://www.winchester.com/products/rifle-ammunition/super-x/power-point/Pages/default.aspx

Where did you get your Data?
http://www.lapua.com/en/products/hunting/12/13

I only can find Lapua .222 FMJ, no good a Calibre for serious Target shooters or Hunters?

Federal and Hornady seem to load it
And Federal ammo is wishy washy
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx

http://www.hornady.com/store/222-Rem-50-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/
and a very low BC in Hornady.

And Hornady being the BEST factory ammo available.

Did the Dealer tell you it was making a comeback?;)

Commish

Good detail Tack.
I emailed the companies and Lapua had put it back into production a few years back and said sales were going good enough, never used theyre ammo though either so ill take your word on that.
Winchester were short and sweet saying yes it is still available (probably working off stocks).
I use federal for my 25-06 and find them good.
I agree though Hornady are the best.
No the dealer didnt really try to swing me either way, I was working off what I felt myself. Fell in love with the weirauch, seriously nice gun. He has a stack of ammo for it anyhow.
My dad used this round back in the day, this might have swung me a bit also.

Tackleberrywho

Commish wrote: »

Good detail Tack.
I emailed the companies and Lapua had put it back into production a few years back and said sales were going good enough, never used theyre ammo though either so ill take your word on that.
Winchester were short and sweet saying yes it is still available (probably working off stocks).
I use federal for my 25-06 and find them good.
I agree though Hornady are the best.
No the dealer didnt really try to swing me either way, I was working off what I felt myself. Fell in love with the weirauch, seriously nice gun. He has a stack of ammo for it anyhow.
My dad used this round back in the day, this might have swung me a bit also.

I have one friend that has a .222 and a .223 both Remington. He got the .222 back from having the state mind it for a few (30 odd) years.

Landkeeper off here also has one AFAIK, other than that not that common.

I had a serious job sourcing ammo for my mate in .222 a year or so ago. He uses his .223 as his primary foxer.

My .223 currently will chew ammo from 50-75 grain with 1/4-1/2" groups@100 so no complaints there and around 1" at 300;)

The Rifle is better than me though

The only thing she will not cycle is Wolf, but Neither will a CZ :eek:

Chamber is Only new though best Truflite had to offer

I would have never considered .222 more accurate than .223. I go by BC and bullet drop and find a happy Medium, Hornady Superformance 53 Grain will fill that slot nicely I hope! <whenever they land herre>

http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/

Vs this

http://www.hornady.com/store/222-Rem-40-gr-V-MAX/

ormondprop

A cousin of mine goes lamping with a guy who has a 222, he wouldn't know much about guns but reckons its a lovely rifle, dont know the guy who owns it so dont know where he gets his ammo, on the weihrauch front i have one in .22 hornet (hopefully for not long more though) and they're a lovely rifle, well made and i'd rate them up there near the anshutz

bunny shooter

I know one lad who shoots LOTS of foxes with one and he won't part with it:eek:

landkeeper

i don't have one any longe r:( i did when i worked in scotland but wasn't allowed to bring it back here i loved that rifle :mad: point and pull whatever you aimed at was dead , i had a friend who used to reload for it for me although it shot really well with norma soft point stuff ,it is the weapon of choice for alot of lads in the uk as a dedicated fox rifle

rock garden

Up here in north ammo available is sako with a 50 grain nosler bt. .norma with a 40 grain vmax. federal with a 40 grain nosler bt. remington with a 50 grain accutip. lapua used to make 2 hunting rounds 1 was a 50 grain sp.Sako also does a 50 grain soft point round.

cavan shooter

A very popular round that would have been more so only it lost out to the NATO 223. It was if I am not mistaken the original armalite round, nearly bought a lovely Tika last year plenty of ammo up north