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replacing double glazed glass with tripple glazed??

  • 20-01-2011 10:50pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭


    Is it possible to remove the glass pane from an existing double glazed upvc window and replace it with a tripple glazed pane instead?

    Basicly converting double glazed window to tripple glazed.

    Thanks.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    yes its something i do a lot pm me if you need a quote


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    massy086 wrote: »
    yes its something i do a lot pm me if you need a quote


    PM sent.:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I presume that a tripple glazed window pane with improve heat retention in the house and will also be good at keeping out external noise (road noise) too?

    Also,does a tripple glazed pane have gas in it too?

    Thanks.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    paddy147 wrote: »
    I presume that a tripple glazed window pane with improve heat retention in the house

    It would, but you'd have to work out the cost benefit (taking into account that all else in the house in the insulation/airtightness stakes would have to be up to 3x glazing scratch - which it likely isn't).

    The payback is made even more marginal by the fact we've a mildish climate. Single > double gives a greater leap in benefit that double > triple.


    and will also be good at keeping out external noise (road noise) too?

    Not automatically. The space between the panes of a double glazed panel determines whether it's optimized for:

    NOISE. In this case the panes of glass are further apart - a large separation is a harder thing for noise vibration to bridge than a narrow separation)


    OR


    HEAT RETENTION. In this case, the panes are near together - to limit air/gas movement > and so limit convection > conduction losses within the panel).


    If your current panel is geared towards noise reduction (large separation) and you replace it with triple glazing (which will be geared toward heat loss reduction thus minimal separation) then you might not see as significant benefit as you might imagine, noise wise.


    Also,does a tripple glazed pane have gas in it too?

    I dunno. But would imagine so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    It would, but you'd have to work out the cost benefit (taking into account that all else in the house in the insulation/airtightness stakes would have to be up to 3x glazing scratch - which it likely isn't).

    The payback is made even more marginal by the fact we've a mildish climate. Single > double gives a greater leap in benefit that double > triple.





    Not automatically. The space between the panes of a double glazed panel determines whether it's optimized for:

    NOISE. In this case the panes of glass are further apart - a large separation is a harder thing for noise vibration to bridge than a narrow separation)


    OR


    HEAT RETENTION. In this case, the panes are near together - to limit air/gas movement > and so limit convection > conduction losses within the panel).


    If your current panel is geared towards noise reduction (large separation) and you replace it with triple glazing (which will be geared toward heat loss reduction thus minimal separation) then you might not see as significant benefit as you might imagine, noise wise.





    I dunno. But would imagine so.

    Thanks,my own house is fine.
    Im looking into this with regards my mothers house.Theres a fair bit of road noise,especially rush hour traffic and its hard to sleep/rest sometimes with the road noise/traffic issues outside.:(

    So I suppose that noise reduiction would be more important here,with regards to changing over to a tripple glazed window pane.

    But a little bit more heat retention wouldnt be too bad either.:)


    Thanks for the advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭CBYR1983


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Thanks,my own house is fine.
    Im looking into this with regards my mothers house.Theres a fair bit of road noise,especially rush hour traffic and its hard to sleep/rest sometimes with the road noise/traffic issues outside.:(

    So I suppose that noise reduiction would be more important here,with regards to changing over to a tripple glazed window pane.

    But a little bit more heat retention wouldnt be too bad either.:)


    Thanks for the advice.


    This is all true, but if they're older upvc frames then I doubt the units are more than 20mm. Not sure you can get triple-glazed that thin - these boys in Nenagh manufacture them so they'll tell you I'm sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    CBYR1983 wrote: »
    This is all true, but if they're older upvc frames then I doubt the units are more than 20mm. Not sure you can get triple-glazed that thin - these boys in Nenagh manufacture them so they'll tell you I'm sure.


    The upvc windows themselves are only around 2.5 years old.

    Problem is now,that the road noise has increased dramaticly in that that time too,thanks to so many cars and vans now taking shortcuts to avoid the morning and evening gridlock/traffic jams..


    Thanks for the link too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Triple glazed windows can have a pretty big profile, and are very heavy, so I
    would question the ability of double glazing frames to hold these. Afaik reducing the air gap between the panes increases the u-value of the glass too something else to bear in mind if your getting thin profile windows.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 supertramp2011


    Of course, possible

    This is something that will benefit possible, but what are the reasons that make you upgrade windows of double glazing to triple glass can even give you tips as well as price.


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