rear foglights - TURN THEM ON

Mycroft H

Driving home and i could not believe the amount of people driving in the densest fog that i've seen in a long long time and they had no rear fog lights on.

There many times more important then the front ones and its only a button to press to turn them on - so please do, it will help avoid accidents and makes you generally more safe and more visible

shogunpower

fog light button, what? wheres that? huh? lights? sure i can see in front of me...

mcwhirter

landyman wrote: »

Driving home and i could not believe the amount of people driving in the densest fog that i've seen in a long long time and they had no rear fog lights on.

There many times more important then the front ones and its only a button to press to turn them on - so please do, it will help avoid accidents and makes you generally more safe and more visible

and off when no fog, foghorn

rocky

not all cars have rear fog lights though

mcwhirter

Tractors don't have foglights

Berty

rocky wrote: »

not all cars have rear fog lights though

Less than 1% I'd imagine due to their year of registration.

US cars getting imported and Jap cars etc must have them fitted for our roads.(if not fitted already).

I think you will find the reason people do not switch them on is because people don't think about other people.

"If I can see then that is all that matters" :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

If you could see them , why would they need to turn on their foglights?

87pio

rocky wrote: »

not all cars have rear fog lights though

All cars have them! Not all cars have front fog lights though

Edit: And don't forget to switch them off when you don't need them

mcwhirter

Berty wrote: »

"If I can see then that is all that matters" :rolleyes:

brains of children, most drivers

vectra

Berty wrote: »

Less than 1% I'd imagine due to their year of registration.

US cars getting imported and Jap cars etc must have them fitted for our roads.(if not fitted already).

I think you will find the reason people do not switch them on is because people don't think about other people.

"If I can see then that is all that matters" :rolleyes:

Thees a funny one.
I bought an EK2 civic last year.
Son got some of those ugly "Lexus" :rolleyes: rear lights.
I swapped them over with him last weekend and discovered there was 2 "blackish" foglight bulbs in the old cluster.. But for the life of me I cannot see or find a switch in the car to turn them on.. Anyone got any clues??

tossy

Along the same line could people please turn off their rear fog lights when in town or traffic,here a clue if you can see my headlights behind you chances are i can see you also :rolleyes:

Gary ITR

Berty wrote: »

US cars getting imported and Jap cars etc must have them fitted for our roads.(if not fitted already).

Not so, they aren't required here. In the UK they are required to be retrofitted but not here

johndaman66

tossy wrote: »

Along the same line could people please turn off their rear fog lights when in town or traffic,here a clue if you can see my headlights behind you chances are i can see you also :rolleyes:

You beat me to it there tossy. Christ almighty some of them would burn the eyes out of your head. A bit of basic common sense goes along way. In slow moving stop-go traffic there really is no need to leave bright rear fog lamps blazing when there is a somebody driving right behind you.

I sometimes wonder with these kind of threads though will people who seriously need to get the message ever read them:(

Neilw

87pio wrote: »

All cars have them!

They don't you know, most jap imports don't have rear fog lights.

Owen

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If you could see them , why would they need to turn on their foglights?

This. Foglights are there if you're driving in dense fog to break through the haze and show you a vehicle you're approaching that you didn't think was there. If you can see the vehicle behind, and they can see you, your rear fogs should be off - they dazzle and can be a huge nusiance and accident risk due to glare and frustration.

Anyway, IBTL. So long Foglight thread!

feelites

i was drivin today from dublin to wexford, there and back
foggy conditions here and there
seen same amount of ppl with their fog lights OFF in fog
as foglighs ON when no fog


its same story with no indicating when needed and indicating when not needed
i think its about no imagination

Stheno

feelites wrote: »

its same story with no indicating when needed and indicating when not needed
i think its about no imagination

It's more lack of awareness imho tbh.

People just drive along in a little bubble of their own, the ol "It will never happen to me" mantra applies.

I got stuck in the massive crash on the M7 a few years ago in the fog. The driving was horrific, everyone stuck there remembered one particular driver who was speeding with no fogs on, yet most of the cars when they stopped and were last in the "queue" so to speak, stuck on their hazards, stopped their engines and thought that was fine.

Meant you were going from a high enough speed (80kph plus) to nothing in a short time once you saw the hazards.

Bruthal

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If you could see them , why would they need to turn on their foglights?

Well you will always have a chance of seeing them without the rear fog lights on, but a lot better chance of seeing them earlier with them on, its not complicated.

JustAddWater

Ah sure, I saw cars today at first light in fog with no headlights even on

I made this face for a while -> :eek:




.. Then just gave up wondering how some people even got their license

Bruthal

JustAddWater wrote: »

Ah sure, I saw cars today at first light in fog with no headlights even on

I made this face for a while -> :eek:




.. Then just gave up wondering how some people even got their license

If it was very foggy they probably wouldn`t let you do the test in it. I had to re arrange my one because it started snowing as we were about to go out to the car, a few years ago now in `90, so i dont know what they do these days.

rocky

I'm pretty sure the Swift does not have rear fogs, you've made me curious now... I don't have a switch for them, only front fogs/

dnme

OP
I don't think there's point posting here as all the drivers on boards-motors are perfect in every way including myself. :cool:

McSpud

I think its very rare that conditions are so bad that rear fog lights are required. If anything people turn them on too easily.

Wolverine_1999

It's been fairly bad now most days on the road recently alright, and I do agree they are needed.

I then turn them on to keep myself safe from the other drivers though! I don't trust anyone coming up behind me whether they can or can't see me!

R.O.R

I was pleasantly surprised yesterday morning when the Caddy van in front of me turned his fog lights off when he knew I was close enough to see him. Saved my retina's from being toasted. I did the same thing when the driver behind caught up.

I didn't like the way that the Rear Fog light only came on after you'd turned on the fronts. I had no need to have the front's on, but needed the rear as I was the last car in the queue.

antodeco

87pio wrote: »

All cars have them! Not all cars have front fog lights though

Edit: And don't forget to switch them off when you don't need them

My mini doesnt have them! Its also not a requirement of the NCT, once your car never had one in the first place!

biko

I don't have rear fog lights so just brake occasionally and suddenly.
Works wonders to keep everyone off me

GTE

R.O.R wrote: »

I was pleasantly surprised yesterday morning when the Caddy van in front of me turned his fog lights off when he knew I was close enough to see him. Saved my retina's from being toasted. I did the same thing when the driver behind caught up.

That is something I am doing more and more now when things slow down.
I havent been blinded by rear fogs on motorways with the 2 second rule but I havent been stuck in traffic in fog as all I do is motorway driving. Got stuck a few days ago and realised how bright they can be.

Odd story coming out of that.
On the M4 there are stretches where you can have heavy fog, nothing, heaving, nothing etc. in very short distances.
Now I was on the mudder friggin ball with the fog light and switching it on and off as appropriate (boring drive) then the person behind me starts flashing me. She was way way behind and she was flashing me.
Anyway, things slowed down in my lane and she caught up to me in the overtaking lane and started giving out to me miming fog lights.

She must have mistaken my ultra perfect use of the fogs as "Feck you ya f'er ya!"

Then she dropped back a bit on the overtaking lane stopping me from overtaking.

Oh my. . . That was just a 10 mile trip too.

Plug

Do you switch off rear fog lights when someone comes up close behind you?

GTE

Plug wrote: »

Do you switch off rear fog lights when someone comes up close behind you?

In traffic yes but it's only happened in the past week or two that I have been in traffic while its foggy which is where I realised how bright they can be at that distance. A quick learning curve.

Less so on a well flowing motorway as I have yet to be blinded by anything like that when I overtake for example and because I haven't driven through much fog I haven't been tail gated by anyone on the motorway yet.

Stheno

McSpud wrote: »

I think its very rare that conditions are so bad that rear fog lights are required. If anything people turn them on too easily.

The fogs on the OH's car are controlled by one switch, the OH does very little driving and the odd time he has to put them on (C5) he asks me where the switch is lol, rarely puts them on. I used work in the Midlands and betweeen Naas and Monasterevin you frequently hit heavy fog, people not having the lights on drove me nuts.

R.O.R wrote: »

I was pleasantly surprised yesterday morning when the Caddy van in front of me turned his fog lights off when he knew I was close enough to see him. Saved my retina's from being toasted. I did the same thing when the driver behind caught up.

I didn't like the way that the Rear Fog light only came on after you'd turned on the fronts. I had no need to have the front's on, but needed the rear as I was the last car in the queue.

The OH's C5 has the same control for front and rear fogs (unless I'm missing something?). Mine has different switches for front and back

I've never been bothered by front fogs or rears tbh in normal light they are not that intrusive that I've noticed.

LordSutch

landyman wrote: »

Rear foglights - TURN THEM ON

Front foglights - TURN THEM OFF!

I'm fed up being dazzled by oncuming fecky little Micra's with their Front Fog's ON (with no fog in sight)! I have picked out Micra's because every bleedin one of them seems to have the front fog's permanently on (small car = Big lights syndrome) if you know what I mean

Irish drivers seem to have a fascination with fog lights (front & rear) which drivers are banned from using in other countries - unless there is fog.

Merch

They think it looks cool, least that's what one guy told me

GTE

LordSutch wrote: »

Front foglights - TURN THEM OFF!

I'm fed up being dazzled by oncuming fecky little Micra's with their Front Fog's ON (with no fog in sight)! I have picked out Micra's because every bleedin one of them seems to have the front fog's permanently on (small car = Big lights syndrome) if you know what I mean

Irish drivers seem to have a fascination with front Fog lights' which drivers are banned from using in other countries - unless there is fog.

Yeah. With the actual fog out a lot of people are leaving them on and some of them are just horribly aligned.

It was mentioned here I think but its just the lack of concentration by the drivers that we see every day on roundabouts, lanes etc.

On the verge of brushing against the charter with the front fog talk
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those rear fog lights eh?

Anyway, it is all a culmination into a frustrating drive anywhere. I have to second guess everyone on the local roundabouts because so many cant indicate or dont do it properly.

LordSutch

Indeed, rear fog lights are a real curse, I was driving along the N11 only yesterday in crystal clear driving condidtions, stuck behind a Citroen C5 with one Big fat foglight totally blinding me, so I flashed her several times, then I passed her after about five mins 'Toot tooting' as I passed and pointing to the back of her car, she was smokin a fag & probably hadn't a clue what I was on about.

Scotty #

People in this country are WAY too quick to turn on their fog lights. It's extremely rare that fog here is thick enough to require them.

Fishtits

If there was one thing I could ban it would be rear fog lamps...

Conor_M1990

vectra wrote: »

Thees a funny one.
I bought an EK2 civic last year.
Son got some of those ugly "Lexus" :rolleyes: rear lights.
I swapped them over with him last weekend and discovered there was 2 "blackish" foglight bulbs in the old cluster.. But for the life of me I cannot see or find a switch in the car to turn them on.. Anyone got any clues??

EK2s dont have them where the foglight button would be theres a coin holder thingy

dougie-lampkin

87pio wrote: »

All cars have them! Not all cars have front fog lights though

My car doesn't have rear fog lights or reversing lights, they're not required by any Irish law or the NCT either, and I've no interest in retrofitting them, I've yet to see fog dense enough that requires rear fog lights. It did come with two front fogs and two front spotlights from the factory though (which I've since removed since they're 5" lamps, and replaced the front fogs with more discrete units)

LordSutch wrote: »

Front foglights - TURN THEM OFF!

I'm fed up being dazzled by oncuming fecky little Micra's with their Front Fog's ON (with no fog in sight)! I have picked out Micra's because every bleedin one of them seems to have the front fog's permanently on (small car = Big lights syndrome) if you know what I mean

Irish drivers seem to have a fascination with fog lights (front & rear) which drivers are banned from using in other countries - unless there is fog.

I passed a ~'98 Micra earlier today with front fogs on, they're more like feckin' rally spotlights than fog lights :eek:

I must admit I do have my discrete front fogs in use as DRLs though, for daytime visibility.

Yakult

And do not forget to turn the fecking foglight off when you are done..

Anyone familiar to driving behind a car with one on in the rain or just in dry conditions. Its pretty heavy on the eye.

Padraig Mor

Scotty # wrote: »

People in this country are WAY too quick to turn on their fog lights. It's extremely rare that fog here is thick enough to require them.

+1000. If you can see 'normal' rear lights from a few hundred metres away, leave the fogs off!

I have my current car 8 months and have never switched them on. Had my last car two years and maybe used them twice.

And I live in an area prone to fog......

whiterebel

Yakult wrote: »

And do not forget to turn the fecking foglight off when you are done..

Anyone familiar to driving behind a car with one on in the rain or just in dry conditions. Its pretty heavy on the eye.

Its only January. They'll remember to turn them off by August.......:pac:

challengemaster

Scotty # wrote: »

People in this country are WAY too quick to turn on their fog lights. It's extremely rare that fog here is thick enough to require them.

Depends entirely on where you're driving. Thursday evening for about an hour, I was driving through fog with well under 10m visability. A massive green roadsign actually scared me at one point, it just appeared out of nowhere :pac:

On the issue of front fogs - I really don't get the big issue? I've been driving 2.5 years (which i know, is not a lot in comparison to some) but never once have I been blinded by front fog lights. If anything, they're a big help in identifying cars, especially ones that have a bulb out... basically DRLs. The only cases where I have been blinded has been by idiots who don't turn off their main beam. So the only reason I can see for all the whinging is just purely pedantic..

Builderfromhell

The correct usage of fog lights, lights on in poor visibility conditions, driving in snow, ice should all form part of the driving test.
It is obvious that people are oblivious to these matters as has been seen recently with people braking on ice, using wrong gears in snow, driving with no lights on etc.

Bruthal

Builderfromhell wrote: »

The correct usage of fog lights, lights on in poor visibility conditions, driving in snow, ice should all form part of the driving test.
It is obvious that people are oblivious to these matters as has been seen recently with people braking on ice, using wrong gears in snow, driving with no lights on etc.

Its tricky to drive on ice and snow during a test most of the year though with no ice and snow on the ground. They would`t let me do my test on a day it did actually snow as well, had to re arrange it. Its a while since i did my test though, they could ask questions about it but that would do little to compare with the experience of actually using the fogs at the right time, or driving on snow etc.

LordSutch

challengemaster wrote: »

On the issue of front fogs - I really don't get the big issue? I've been driving 2.5 years (which i know, is not a lot in comparison to some)

2.5 years > Well there you go . . . .

Using front fogs is illegal in most countries if its not foggy, and if you get caught with them on while visiting Britain you will get told off by the local traffic cops (as I did once) about fifteen years ago! The cop went on to explain about dazzling oncoming traffic, and that front fogs cannot be dipped, they are set rigid on the front of the vehicle for the purpose of helping to illuminate & to be seen (during fog) . . .

Mycroft H

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If you could see them , why would they need to turn on their foglights?

Because I would have been able to see them much earlier then

I like to know whats further up the road and often in heavy fog like we had on thursday (>10m visibility), tail lights dont cut it. So rear fogs on please.

challengemaster

LordSutch wrote: »

2.5 years > Well there you go . . . .

Using front fogs is illegal in most countries if its not foggy, and if you get caught with them on while visiting Britain you will get told off by the local traffic cops (as I did once) about fifteen years ago! The cop went on to explain about dazzling oncoming traffic, and that front fogs cannot be dipped, they are set rigid on the front of the vehicle for the purpose of helping to illuminate & to be seen (during fog) . . .

They don't need to be dipped, they wouldn't blind you if you were licking them.

LordSutch

Well then keep them turned on, if you must :rolleyes:

Getting back to the nub of the topic, surely most people are aware of the extra glowing light on the instrument panel ?