What is your ideology

whiteonion

Do you have an ideology? I consider myself to be totally pragmatic and I do not have any political ideologies, I do not have any religious beliefs.

I don't really believe in anything. What do you believe in when it comes to politics?

ArtSmart

so, em, you got something planned...?

whiteonion

ArtSmart wrote: »

so, em, you got something planned...?

NO, decided to change the direction of this thread.

The Volt

I personally believe in a connection between ethics and economics, between philosophy and politics. I believe that an economy should serve the people and not the other way around. Furthermore, we can judge a society on how well it treats its' sick, weak and poor (on that basis we can't be very proud of ourselves).

I don't have much time for the market personally, I think it comes second in terms of importance, behind the wellbeing of a society.

loldog

I'd like an economic system that is not insanely dependent on growth growth growth. I'd like a Steady State Economy.

From that link:

The day is not far off when the economic problem will take the back seat where it belongs, and the arena of the heart and the head will be occupied or reoccupied, by our real problems - the problems of life and of human relations, of creation and behavior and religion. - JM Keynes.

I think an economic system is not an end in itself. An economic system is supposed to provide us with safe, stable and happy lives. None of these are provided by the present growth and debt based system. I think a new monetary system would be necessary - one not based on debt, treasury bills and fractional reserve lending.

The UK pays 40bn a year in debt interest, Ireland will soon be paying around 10bn a year in debt interest. I don't accept that. :mad:

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kev9100

I believe that the State has a fundemental duty to take care of the least well off and to provide basic services to all its citizens. These services include free health-care, education and a large social safety-net. I accept that markets are here to stay, but they should be strongly regulated and we should not run our country based on what the markets want us to do.

With regards to social policy, I'm a liberal who supports gay marraige, the right for women to have an abortion and for a complete separation with regards to the Church and the State.

ArtSmart

fair share for all, any surplus those who want it can have it.

plus the 'do onto others' thingy.

steelcityblues

Social liberal/economic conservative, and an anti-interventionist economically and military speaking

Of course, none of the parties in recent years have exactly filled both brackets - and I don't count the PDs either - as they became FF lite a long time ago.

After declaring as an independent in my constituency today, I might just vote for Paul Somerville, who would come closest to both criteria, and who clearly seems interested in telling the IMF where to go.

RandolphEsq

Everybody should have enough resources to at least be able to live a happy and peaceful life. Life is too short to be wasted, and as far as I am concerned, meaningless in any universal way. Greed is grand, as long as those at the bottom are not suffering. But people should be able to look around and know what makes them happy. As simple beings we should realise that it does not take a whole lot to make us happy

Inverse to the power of one!

I love these kinds of question....spend a lot of time thinking about this.

It's becoming abundantly clear as time progresses that ideologies are very much a model of political practice that belongs to the past.....but the question now is what replaces them?

Some of the answers in this thread give a glimpse of things to come, with people now identifying their outlook on the basis of favored economic and governmental models, but this comes with it's own unique problems in that we can no longer look to a single one size fits all banner under which to work together.

Other problems are:
How do we identify others that are close in thinking?
How do we organize majority parties on this basis?
How do we diffuse knowledge such that the majority is aware of the options?

It is with some interest that I have watched the formation of parties that tout pragmatism as their ideal of choice, and I'm pretty encouraged by it......but the question is how long do we have to wait for this to become a political reality?

We may be waiting some time....

KeithAFC

Unionist.

Permabear

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Skrynesaver

The Political Compass offers a test to see where you stand.

For reference I'm here
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

and the Irish political parties positions from their manifestos last time out

mikemac

Skrynesaver wrote: »

For reference I'm here
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

Wow, I think you're somewhere to the left of Stalin! Pretty radical views there

Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.41

Which makes me bang on for Fianna Fáil

What??, let me take the test again

Seems to be pretty neutral though and closer to being conservative, like most of my posts, bland and boring

CorkMan

Socialist-Republican is my ideology.

Wolfe Tone

I would be an Irish republican, although less left leaning than most I think.

Tipp Man

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

I would be an Irish republican, although less left leaning than most I think.

I thought you were a fairly strong SF man or aren't you?

Tipp Man

whiteonion wrote: »

Do you have an ideology? I consider myself to be totally pragmatic and I do not have any political ideologies, I do not have any religious beliefs.

I don't really believe in anything. What do you believe in when it comes to politics?

you believe in a redistribution of wealth don't you? Tax the rich to give to the poor. You think its a good idea to pay high taxes so that the government can redistribute it to the neady (provide social services) don't you??

Surely this means you do actually have political ideologies - or are your threads on increasing Corp tax and putting a punitive tax on sugar not really your beliefs at all?

Wolfe Tone

Tipp Man wrote: »

I thought you were a fairly strong SF man or aren't you?

I will certainly vote for SF, but I don't like or agree with all of their policies and proposals.

clearz

The PD's where pretty close to my ideology. I'm very right wing when it comes to economics and very libral with social matters.

RandomName2

Middle of the road, free-market worshiping libertarian.

RandomName2

Tipp Man wrote: »

you believe in a redistribution of wealth don't you? Tax the rich to give to the poor. You think its a good idea to pay high taxes so that the government can redistribute it to the neady (provide social services) don't you??

Surely this means you do actually have political ideologies - or are your threads on increasing Corp tax and putting a punitive tax on sugar not really your beliefs at all?

We have an award for those who do well in our society. It's called financial success.

We have a crutch for those who those who might prove financially successful in the future, either directly, or through their offspring etc. It's called public spending.

Lockstep

Left wing social democrat.

leincar

Voltwad wrote: »

I personally believe in a connection between ethics and economics, between philosophy and politics. I believe that an economy should serve the people and not the other way around. Furthermore, we can judge a society on how well it treats its' sick, weak and poor (on that basis we can't be very proud of ourselves).

I don't have much time for the market personally, I think it comes second in terms of importance, behind the wellbeing of a society.

Perfect. I couldn't have put it better.

PeterIanStaker

Total Cynicism. The belief that those in power serve themselves and themselves only.

thenutflush

The type of social democratic government that can only exist in countries like sweden and denmark where people are hardworking, unselfish and considerate of the needs of the whole of society and the leaders are uncorrupt and willing to work for a reasonable wage.

This doesn't work here because we wan't the best of everything...we wan't to have our cake and eat it. We want to pay nothing in tax yet we want a litany of state benefits to support us and eliminate all financial responsibility from our lives.

Valmont

I've noticed a new ideology of late: The "I don't have an ideology, I just want to pursue practical solutions to our problems".

Practical solutions that usually involve a large powerful state. No ideology here, move along please. Ahem.

phantom_lord

+6.19 right
+5.47 libertarian

Bring back the pds imo

56lcd

my ideology at the moment is anybody but fianna fail

mcwhirter

whiteonion wrote: »

Do you have an ideology? I consider myself to be totally pragmatic and I do not have any political ideologies, I do not have any religious beliefs.

I don't really believe in anything. What do you believe in when it comes to politics?

Not to vote for fatfacedtwats

chughes

My ideology used to be left of centre, now it's just survival.