Is is just me Eircom hang up on?

backthephilup

Hi
twice today while discussing my bill with a representative i have been disconnected. There is no fault with my phone line and its happened in the past. Usually as i'm asking "why am i being charged for a different broadband plan to the one i'm actually on" or "has there been any progress on that fault i reported three months ago?" Is this just me or is this standard practise now. I suppose its the next logical step from the leave you on hold for an hour when you start asking any of the above questions. When i have rang to pay my bill or discuss upgrading my service however there has never been a problem...well until it came to actually implementing any changes in the service
Thanks

eircom: Tony

backthephilup wrote: »

Hi
twice today while discussing my bill with a representative i have been disconnected. There is no fault with my phone line and its happened in the past. Usually as i'm asking "why am i being charged for a different broadband plan to the one i'm actually on" or "has there been any progress on that fault i reported three months ago?" Is this just me or is this standard practise now. I suppose its the next logical step from the leave you on hold for an hour when you start asking any of the above questions. When i have rang to pay my bill or discuss upgrading my service however there has never been a problem...well until it came to actually implementing any changes in the service
Thanks

Hi backthephilup
I can confirm that this is not standard practice and my apologies that you should have experienced this. No agent should hang up on a customer and any found to be doing so would be disciplined.
If you did managed to get the name of any agent could you PM this to me.
If you currently have any issue PM the details of these also and I will investigate for you.
Tony

beegirl

No not just you!!!

Happened to me several times recently when calling about moving house - once after about 30 minutes on the phone and speaking to about ten different people!!! It's like they run out of different departments to transfer you to and just hang up instead...

In fairness though I was cut off while being supposedly 'transferred', it's not like someone hung up on me in the middle of a sentence. Still extremely frustrating though because then you have to start the whole process again!!!

backthephilup

Exactly i hate the automated Larry Gogan you have to get past to speak to anyone. You're on hold/talking to the machine for ten minutes then just when you feel your getting somewhere...back to square one

pcardin

its not only you. happened also with me many times. but its not inlyeircom who us doing so,it looks like a normal process in customer service here in Ireland to hung up in when not the right questions have been asked

DaSilva

Yeah happens to me fairly regularly too, both from land lines and mobile. Called them twice this past week and both times after negotiating my way through the robot menu I would get cut off after waiting for several minutes and then have to call again.

eircom: Eleanor

To all of you that have experienced this, apologies,this is not common practice and certainly not how we here at eircom want to do business with our customers.Please PM the moderators if you have any names of individuals and I will follow up with the Customer Facing departments

If you would like to try some other modes of communication please tweet to eircom to the @eircom team on Twitter
and/or
contact eircom on www.eircom.net/eircomconnect and go to our forums

The team are on hand to help you with any queries you may have

Hope this helps

Eleanor

boomslang

When I worked at BT our agents had to start by telling the customer their name as a matter of courtesy. Our logging system was able to tell if an agent hung up on a customer. I'm sure eircom have the same ability. But if you call any service generally it is good to get a name as a point of reference and note the time you called at too including wait time!

eircom: Eleanor

boomslang wrote: »

When I worked at BT our agents had to start by telling the customer their name as a matter of courtesy. Our logging system was able to tell if an agent hung up on a customer. I'm sure eircom have the same ability. But if you call any service generally it is good to get a name as a point of reference and note the time you called at too including wait time!

Thank You for you post,your absoluetly right getting the details is very important and helps us to identify the people casuing the offence a lot quicker

Eleanor

DaSilva

The times it has happened to me are exactly like this:

Negotiate the voice menu.
Wait in queue.
Phone starts ringing.
Sounds like phone handset is picked up and put down immediately.

Other times this has happened while being transferred to a different department.
Talk with rep.
Rep asks if it is ok to transfer.
Say yes.
Hold for a second or two.
Phone starts ringing.
Phone goes dead. or like before sounds like handset is picked up and put down.

eircom: Tony

DaSilva wrote: »

The times it has happened to me are exactly like this:

Negotiate the voice menu.
Wait in queue.
Phone starts ringing.
Sounds like phone handset is picked up and put down immediately.

Other times this has happened while being transferred to a different department.
Talk with rep.
Rep asks if it is ok to transfer.
Say yes.
Hold for a second or two.
Phone starts ringing.
Phone goes dead. or like before sounds like handset is picked up and put down.

Hi DaSilva
Will advise our internal phone system support team of your point. It is possible that the system, and as you point out, the transfer facility, may not function as it should.
You say that you had tried to call support twice? Is there anything I can do for you?
If so just PM me the details and I will chase this for you.
Thanks again for posting.
Tony

parazard

No it's not just you. Was moving home and had to cancel eircom toward the end of last year. I called 4 times in one week and my partner did just as many times. I was on hold for almost 1 hour 3/4 times and the call ended up by the agent hanging up. The 4th time I was on hold for 80 minutes when I gave up. Same happened to my partner. This by the way in the middle of packing and moving ... not exactly plenty of time to spare.
As soon as they heard the word 'cancel' or 'account closure' the line would go. We gave up and had to move without confirmation that the account had been closed. We did all we could also sending a registered letter. In spite of this they are still sending bills to the old address.

eircom: Mark

parazard wrote: »

No it's not just you. Was moving home and had to cancel eircom toward the end of last year. I called 4 times in one week and my partner did just as many times. I was on hold for almost 1 hour 3/4 times and the call ended up by the agent hanging up. The 4th time I was on hold for 80 minutes when I gave up. Same happened to my partner. This by the way in the middle of packing and moving ... not exactly plenty of time to spare.
As soon as they heard the word 'cancel' or 'account closure' the line would go. We gave up and had to move without confirmation that the account had been closed. We did all we could also sending a registered letter. In spite of this they are still sending bills to the old address.

Hi parazard,

If you send me a private message with your old account number or telephone number and I can look into that for you.

Thanks, Mark

chrislynch8

When you ring Eircom I was told to ask for there Employee Number, not there name. I often gotted a name and ring back after getting cut off for whatever reason and a person by that name magically doesn't work there is always on anther call.

eircom: Mark

chrislynch8 wrote: »

When you ring Eircom I was told to ask for there Employee Number, not there name. I often gotted a name and ring back after getting cut off for whatever reason and a person by that name magically doesn't work there is always on anther call.

Hi chrislynch8,

eircom do not give out our employee numbers - agent should always give name.

I appreciate it is not always possibile to speak to the same person, however if you have an issue I can help yo with feel free to PM me.

Thanks, Mark

chrislynch8

eircom: Mark wrote: »

Hi chrislynch8,

eircom do not give out our employee numbers - agent should always give name.

I appreciate it is not always possibile to speak to the same person, however if you have an issue I can help yo with feel free to PM me.

Thanks, Mark

Hi Mark,

No issue - was just repeating something I was told before

Rgds
Chris

eircom: Mark

chrislynch8 wrote: »

Hi Mark,

No issue - was just repeating something I was told before

Rgds
Chris

Hi Chris,

Fair enough, I will get back to you regarding your broadband query soon.

Thanks, Mark

Gloomtastic!

eircom: Tony wrote: »

Hi backthephilup
I can confirm that this is not standard practice and my apologies that you should have experienced this. No agent should hang up on a customer and any found to be doing so would be disciplined.
If you did managed to get the name of any agent could you PM this to me.
If you currently have any issue PM the details of these also and I will investigate for you.
Tony

Have you got stats for dropped calls?

It used to happen to me virtually everytime I tried to call your company. You call up about the appalling service you are receiving and you get cut off. One of the reasons I have vowed never, ever to do business with Eircom again. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

eircom: Mark

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

Have you got stats for dropped calls?

It used to happen to me virtually everytime I tried to call your company. You call up about the appalling service you are receiving and you get cut off. One of the reasons I have vowed never, ever to do business with Eircom again. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Hi Gloomtastic,

I am very sorry for the experience you had with eircom and some of our agents.


I can assure you If there a number of unexplained calls being dropped eircom will investigate it immediately.

Also eircom have a structure for agents to maximise the interaction with customers to try insure a positive experience for the customer which includes calls dropped and if the numbers are excessive that will also be looked into immediately.

Thanks, Mark

prioryc

I often got stuck on the eircom circus agent merry-go-round ...where no to departments know what the other is at dropped calls on hold....or refused to have a broadband complaint heard:eek: ..now i know why you had m-people "search for the hero" playing while on hold:rolleyes:

eircom: Eleanor

prioryc wrote: »

I often got stuck on the eircom circus agent merry-go-round ...where no to departments know what the other is at dropped calls on hold....or refused to have a broadband complaint heard:eek: ..now i know why you had m-people "search for the hero" playing while on hold:rolleyes:

My apologies for this experience you have had with eircom, can you PM me if you are experiencing problems currently.If you wish, you do not have to ring to request services you can access eircom via our twitter account www.twitter/eircom ,you can also log on to www.eircom.net/connect and go to our forum

Hope this is of help
Eleanor

prioryc

eircom: Eleanor wrote: »

My apologies for this experience you have had with eircom, can you PM me if you are experiencing problems currently.If you wish, you do not have to ring to request services you can access eircom via our twitter account www.twitter/eircom ,you can also log on to www.eircom.net/connect and go to our forum

Hope this is of help
Eleanor

Thanks Elenor,
But I have already sent my PM to Comreg ..I just wanted to add my name to the growing list of people who have suffered at the hands of your below par service.

If you want to sample it yourself try ringing 1901 and asking for the internet service you pay (the most in europe) for compared to what you actually get and see the response you receive.

eircom: Tony

prioryc wrote: »

Thanks Elenor,
But I have already sent my PM to Comreg ..I just wanted to add my name to the growing list of people who have suffered at the hands of your below par service.

If you want to sample it yourself try ringing 1901 and asking for the internet service you pay (the most in europe) for compared to what you actually get and see the response you receive.

Hi prioryc
thanks for getting back and I will pass this on to Eleanor. If there is any further issue or query just let us know.
Goodluck
Tony

car03

definitely the norm to get hung up on - same sound as others. Sounds like phone is being picked up and being put down straight away. Guessing it's a disgruntled staff member trying to avoid calls that they just don't have a clue about! Happened to me a few times with them.

Really think they need to train their staff as I was asked by one broadband staff member what I thought the problem was!! Also, they seem to have to go and check things every 2 minutes. This generally means they haven't a clue what they are being asked. A girl called "Dawn" (thick Dub accent) put me on hold for 10 whole minutes - I refused to hang up and when she did finally take me off hold she had no solution! Customer service is shocking!!! Better to get skilled trained graduates and pay them a decent wage than have huge unskilled untrained staff turnover.

As for "supervisor" "Patrick" - I am still, 3 weeks later, waiting for his call. Needless to say, my call to broadband support at 7.45 in the evening meant he did everything he could to wittle away the 15 minutes before he could run out the door. Great attitude!!

BengaLover

No its not just you!:mad::mad:

parazard

Gosh even online! I did send the details, dear Mark said he'd get back early this week and I still haven't heard anything. Are they hanging up on me even online?

eircom: Mark wrote: »

Hi parazard,

If you send me a private message with your old account number or telephone number and I can look into that for you.

Thanks, Mark

parazard

I would be more sceptical than assuming it's due to lack of skills. I reckon it's memos telling them not to engage re: closure of accounts etc. I remember one engineer acknowledging how bad it was and the fact that they are aware of it. Eircom are underestimating the impact this has on customer retention and their reputation...too bad for them. I'll never be back.

car03 wrote: »

definitely the norm to get hung up on - same sound as others. Sounds like phone is being picked up and being put down straight away. Guessing it's a disgruntled staff member trying to avoid calls that they just don't have a clue about! Happened to me a few times with them.

Really think they need to train their staff as I was asked by one broadband staff member what I thought the problem was!! Also, they seem to have to go and check things every 2 minutes. This generally means they haven't a clue what they are being asked. A girl called "Dawn" (thick Dub accent) put me on hold for 10 whole minutes - I refused to hang up and when she did finally take me off hold she had no solution! Customer service is shocking!!! Better to get skilled trained graduates and pay them a decent wage than have huge unskilled untrained staff turnover.

As for "supervisor" "Patrick" - I am still, 3 weeks later, waiting for his call. Needless to say, my call to broadband support at 7.45 in the evening meant he did everything he could to wittle away the 15 minutes before he could run out the door. Great attitude!!

Peadar_85

car03 wrote: »

Also, they seem to have to go and check things every 2 minutes.

+1 on that. Had broadband queries there a few months back and was talking to some Indian guy on a Sat morning. He was fine at first but you could hear his mood rapidly deteriorating with the more questions I asked him. It was as if he expected me to be an expert on the subject and was peeved that I'd ask such silly questions.

This led to numerous "I'll have to go check that..." where I can only assume he engaged in a bout of sighing on the other end before eventually just cutting me off

eircom: Mark

parazard wrote: »

I would be more sceptical than assuming it's due to lack of skills. I reckon it's memos telling them not to engage re: closure of accounts etc. I remember one engineer acknowledging how bad it was and the fact that they are aware of it. Eircom are underestimating the impact this has on customer retention and their reputation...too bad for them. I'll never be back.

Hi parazard,

I apologise for the delay in getting back to you. The reference number referes to your dealings with broadband technical support. I sent on the issue to managers in broadband technical support and they have told me the majority of calls are recorded and they are trying to find the call associated with your reference number.

Apologies, I have sent a follow up and they advised they will get back to me sson. I can assure you I was not activly avoiding your query. I just wanted some information before I got back to you.

I apologise again and I will get back on to you as soon as I have a response.

Thanks, Mark

car03

parazard wrote: »

I would be more sceptical than assuming it's due to lack of skills. I reckon it's memos telling them not to engage re: closure of accounts etc. I remember one engineer acknowledging how bad it was and the fact that they are aware of it. Eircom are underestimating the impact this has on customer retention and their reputation...too bad for them. I'll never be back.

one guy told me to go and close my account. It was my choice.

breaux

Unfortunately what has happened is the staff you are encountering are agency staff where there is a high turnover and the dedication is not there. They don't have a stake (a shareholding) in the company so the desire to turn things around in the company is not there and as has been correctly pointed out this is the future of the company as they are paid less than permanent staff and don't have the experience so when a query comes in they don't know what to do with the call. So they hang up.

eircom: Ant

breaux wrote: »

Unfortunately what has happened is the staff you are encountering are agency staff where there is a high turnover and the dedication is not there. They don't have a stake (a shareholding) in the company so the desire to turn things around in the company is not there and as has been correctly pointed out this is the future of the company as they are paid less than permanent staff and don't have the experience so when a query comes in they don't know what to do with the call. So they hang up.

Hi breaux,

Thanks for contacting eircom on Boads.ie

If any problems calling into an eircom department, or if you need assistance calling any of our contact support numbers, please let us know here.

We can check this out, or follow up, if you have any problems contacting our support phone numbers.

All the best,
Ant

falabo

just bumped into this thread and it's funny cos I was wondering myself "am I the only one in this case"

I never really received answers to my questions. every time the calls dropped. strange.

I am thinking of moving away from Eircom at this stage.

eircom: Mark

parazard wrote: »

No it's not just you. Was moving home and had to cancel eircom toward the end of last year. I called 4 times in one week and my partner did just as many times. I was on hold for almost 1 hour 3/4 times and the call ended up by the agent hanging up. The 4th time I was on hold for 80 minutes when I gave up. Same happened to my partner. This by the way in the middle of packing and moving ... not exactly plenty of time to spare.
As soon as they heard the word 'cancel' or 'account closure' the line would go. We gave up and had to move without confirmation that the account had been closed. We did all we could also sending a registered letter. In spite of this they are still sending bills to the old address.

Hi parazard,

Managers in broadband technical support advised they do not have a recording of the call. However they did speak with the agent associated to the case reference number you gave and made sure that they were aware that hanging up on customers is not a practice eircom do not condone through any channel and the message is te-briefed across the centres'.

I apologise again for the experience you had. If there is an issue you would rather we look at directly in the future we can defiantly do that for you.

Thanks, Mark

M cebee

i'm on talktime plus -eircom customer for years

have to say i've noticed this too-agents hanging up without notice

when trying to sort out a problem


and as for that talking robot -what is the point??

surely it's simpler to press a number on the keypad than trying to get the robot to understand what you're saying

also frequently staff tell me they've changed something or put a 'note' on the account-yet when i check back there is no record

eircom: Tony

falabo wrote: »

just bumped into this thread and it's funny cos I was wondering myself "am I the only one in this case"

I never really received answers to my questions. every time the calls dropped. strange.

I am thinking of moving away from Eircom at this stage.

Hi falabo
sorry to hear you have not recieved answers to you questions and that you experienced calls dropping.. If you wish I can chase this for you and hopefully get this information for you.
If you PM me your line no and the queries in question I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Tony

parazard

Hi Mark,
thank you for that. First of all it's not A call but several calls made in September 2010 to close the account before moving home. I made about 4-5, was on hold for 30-120 mins for each of the calls and then was hung up on. My partner did the same and eventually we just gave up as we were moving and had plenty of other things to do than get a neck pain from holding the line. Eircom has been keeping on billing us and is now threatening us with lawyers to get us to pay bills for when we were not even living there!
The reference number I gave is only relating to a call we made at some stage (cos as well as other matters the internet was not even working for weeks on end). Sure you can use it to track calls made in relation to this in September. If not is very dodgy that the calls are not even logged. Go have a look at the calls made from the landline you will see we called the service from it. If they also disappeared you can be assured we have proof from calls made from mobile phones and we also have the copy of the registered letter we sent to close the account so best of luck to you in court.

eircom: Mark wrote: »

Hi parazard,

Managers in broadband technical support advised they do not have a recording of the call. However they did speak with the agent associated to the case reference number you gave and made sure that they were aware that hanging up on customers is not a practice eircom do not condone through any channel and the message is te-briefed across the centres'.

I apologise again for the experience you had. If there is an issue you would rather we look at directly in the future we can defiantly do that for you.

Thanks, Mark

eircom: Mark

parazard wrote: »

Hi Mark,
thank you for that. First of all it's not A call but several calls made in September 2010 to close the account before moving home. I made about 4-5, was on hold for 30-120 mins for each of the calls and then was hung up on. My partner did the same and eventually we just gave up as we were moving and had plenty of other things to do than get a neck pain from holding the line. Eircom has been keeping on billing us and is now threatening us with lawyers to get us to pay bills for when we were not even living there!
The reference number I gave is only relating to a call we made at some stage (cos as well as other matters the internet was not even working for weeks on end). Sure you can use it to track calls made in relation to this in September. If not is very dodgy that the calls are not even logged. Go have a look at the calls made from the landline you will see we called the service from it. If they also disappeared you can be assured we have proof from calls made from mobile phones and we also have the copy of the registered letter we sent to close the account so best of luck to you in court.

Hi parazard,

I investigated the query and I apologise that you are not happy with the outcome.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Mark

parazard

Dear Mark,
FYI lodged a formal complaint and agent confirmed there was in fact a record of our attempts to get account closed.

Everyone else out there: I consulted with consumers rights association who advised to contact comreg (regulator for communications providers) who then advised me regarding the steps to take. They were very helpful and will take on cases to mediate with provider if there are issues like these. Wish I knew earlier and would have saved myself a lot of hassle.

eircom: Mark wrote: »

Hi parazard,

I investigated the query and I apologise that you are not happy with the outcome.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Mark

funkyjebus

DaSilva wrote: »

The times it has happened to me are exactly like this:

Negotiate the voice menu.
Wait in queue.
Phone starts ringing.
Sounds like phone handset is picked up and put down immediately.

Other times this has happened while being transferred to a different department.
Talk with rep.
Rep asks if it is ok to transfer.
Say yes.
Hold for a second or two.
Phone starts ringing.
Phone goes dead. or like before sounds like handset is picked up and put down.

I used to work for 3G and as such would have to call eicom on a daily basis and this would happen about 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 times i called.

It is no good saying you will have a word with the representatives as this is a daily issue going on for years. An overhaul of your system so that you can identify the member of staff who has hung up a call (without us having to tell you its happened) and a strick disciplinary proceedure for any employees caught. Thats about the only way this wil stop.

I have never experienced this with any other company, just Eircom and I've had one too many jobs where I had to ring up service providers daily and Eircom has by far the worst customer service. I've talked to some lovely and helpful eircom employees, but the bad far outweighs the good.

As a result of calling eircom daily, I'll never use there service, ever. I am with smart and the only annoying aspect of setting that up was trying to get eircom out to install the line (took two months, took a day off and never showed!!). Without sounding vindictive, they are in my opnion, probably the worst run company in ireland with a turnover above 5 mil.

Although I must commend Eircom for using boards.ie, a glimer of light that someone in there has some progressive thinking;).

eircom: Tony

funkyjebus wrote: »

I used to work for 3G and as such would have to call eicom on a daily basis and this would happen about 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 times i called.

It is no good saying you will have a word with the representatives as this is a daily issue going on for years. An overhaul of your system so that you can identify the member of staff who has hung up a call (without us having to tell you its happened) and a strick disciplinary proceedure for any employees caught. Thats about the only way this wil stop.

I have never experienced this with any other company, just Eircom and I've had one too many jobs where I had to ring up service providers daily and Eircom has by far the worst customer service. I've talked to some lovely and helpful eircom employees, but the bad far outweighs the good.

As a result of calling eircom daily, I'll never use there service, ever. I am with smart and the only annoying aspect of setting that up was trying to get eircom out to install the line (took two months, took a day off and never showed!!). Without sounding vindictive, they are in my opnion, probably the worst run company in ireland with a turnover above 5 mil.

Although I must commend Eircom for using boards.ie, a glimer of light that someone in there has some progressive thinking;).

Hi funkyjebus
thanks for posting, sorry you had such negative experiences. We are concentrating on ways to improve our services and as such our being on Boards as well as twitter and our own eircom forum is part of our policy to offer other avenues of contact and support. It has become obvious that a lot of people prefer this option to calling and we hope to be there for these customers.
Regards
Tony

parazard

Haha I wonder why that is that people prefer anything BUT calling..:eek:

eircom: Tony wrote: »

Hi funkyjebus
thanks for posting, sorry you had such negative experiences. We are concentrating on ways to improve our services and as such our being on Boards as well as twitter and our own eircom forum is part of our policy to offer other avenues of contact and support. It has become obvious that a lot of people prefer this option to calling and we hope to be there for these customers.
Regards
Tony

eircom: Tony

parazard wrote: »

Haha I wonder why that is that people prefer anything BUT calling..:eek:

ehmmmm, errrr, it's the the way of the modern world?
Tony

suburban guy

I have a complaint to make to Eircom, but am frustrated & p***ed off by the veil that seems to surround the means (if any) by which I can do that. There's an online "query" form but that's restricted to 400 characters, which is too restrictive for my complaint. Any info on how I can go about it? 1901 = no use.

eircom: Tony

suburban guy wrote: »

I have a complaint to make to Eircom, but am frustrated & p***ed off by the veil that seems to surround the means (if any) by which I can do that. There's an online "query" form but that's restricted to 400 characters, which is too restrictive for my complaint. Any info on how I can go about it? 1901 = no use.

Hi suburban guy
If you PM me your details ( tel. no and issue) I should be able to help you on your query.
Tony

suburban guy

Thanks Tony, PM sent.