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Aer lingus strike???

  • 18-01-2011 10:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭


    i am due to fly to Amsterdam on Saturday,does anyone know if there will be
    cancellations due to the strike cant seem to find any info online??(do i go to terminal 1 or 2??)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭pauraic1990


    No offical word of the strike yet.

    Did you get your email the last one that Aer Lingus sent you it tell you which terminal to go to. Most likely to be in T1. Aer Lingus are moving their entire Short Haul flight to T2 next week.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No offical word of the strike yet.

    Did you get your email the last one that Aer Lingus sent you it tell you which terminal to go to. Most likely to be in T1. Aer Lingus are moving their entire Short Haul flight to T2 next week.
    No official word?

    Are you in a cave?
    Theres a potential mahem inducing strike on yet again in EI

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0118/aerlingus.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭pauraic1990


    Sorry only got that news now I have been waiting for a official word.

    The following flight will be cancelled tomorrow
    EI 650 and EI 651 to and from Frankfurt
    EI582 and EI 583 to and from Malaga
    EI 594 and EI595 to and from Madrid
    EI 606 and EI 607 to and from Amsterdam
    EI 176 and EI 177 to and from London Heathrow.

    To the OP, you may have to wait till closer to the time to get a word about your flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    damn i just checked the plane number i am goin on its EL606. hopefully it will be sorted by saturday i hope..???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Maj Malfunction


    Some people just don't deserve jobs to be honest. Lies damn lies and UNIONS!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    I am flying out saturday week from Cork with them. Hope to fcuk this strike doesnt spread. My first holiday in nearly a year :(

    Seems at the moment to just be Dublin flights and a small number of staff at that. Hope it stays that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    I'm abroad at the moment, travelling with Aer Lingus. Not affected by any cancellations so far.

    If this union's members have previously agreed to this roster plan being implemented by the airline, what the hell are they kicking off about now?
    Do they even give a stuff?
    Words fail me (because they'd be censored in this forum).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭yknaa


    2 flights on the Dublin-Rome route have now been cancelled :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    This is awful for lots of people. Aer Lingus again. God am I mad :eek:

    Going to Malaga on Friday, but looks like I won't be going now.

    Anyway, such is life, we can re book I suppose, but all our time off work's been booked, and it is so disappointing, and a bit of a hassle etc. etc.

    The gas thing is, the Dublin Airport site has the cancellations for tomorrow the 20th up, but the Aer Lingus site has nothing about tomorrow yet, and it is nearly 8oc on the 19th now!! (Malaga is still there, dare I hope for Friday???)

    Unions are the pits. Will go Ryanair from now on, although not being able to carry a handbag always put me off. Not anymore, no unions in Ryanair!!

    Good luck to anyone travelling, hope y'all get there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Yes, 17 return routes have been chopped tomorrow (thursday).
    Both sides refusing to cede anything to the other at the moment.
    If I had the choice, I wouldn't have flown. Unfortunately this is breaking out in the middle of my trip. Not affected at the moment, so fingers crossed I can get back Saturday as planned (and anyone else affected of course!).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Pretence


    Dear Aer Lingus Staff,

    please take your head out of your own asses and get back to work you crowd of moaning ****. Welcome to private industry. Crowd of self entitled, civil service idiots.

    Kind Regards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Disgraceful yet again. They are going to kill the airline :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 garcc


    please help. I have a group of 11 who are supposed to fly with aer lingus on sat 22nd from cork. aer lingus have told us they cannot gurantee the flight will not be affected by the strike and we may not know this until sat morning. we have an option of traveling with another airline to a different airport to get to our original destination. problem is aer lingus will not refund us if we cancel our flight even though they will not gurantee us our flight. what are our rights regarding this? do we have the right to cancel and get full refund? I have only got till tomorrow to book the new flights where as if I wait till saturday it will be too late and we wil be stuck and miss our trip. very few other flight options from cork on saturday.
    please someone help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    garcc wrote: »
    please help. I have a group of 11 who are supposed to fly with aer lingus on sat 22nd from cork. aer lingus have told us they cannot gurantee the flight will not be affected by the strike and we may not know this until sat morning. we have an option of traveling with another airline to a different airport to get to our original destination. problem is aer lingus will not refund us if we cancel our flight even though they will not gurantee us our flight. what are our rights regarding this? do we have the right to cancel and get full refund? I have only got till tomorrow to book the new flights where as if I wait till saturday it will be too late and we wil be stuck and miss our trip. very few other flight options from cork on saturday.
    please someone help.
    AFAIK you can't get anything unless you are denied boarding or flight is cancelled. Aer Lingo are obviously playing hardball here where another airline would allow you to rebook as a gesture, but I don't think you are entitled to anything as of yet.

    Pain in the arse but what can ya do, except choose the other airline next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Aer Lingus are a joke. The striking staff should be ****ed out on their ear. The airline itself is useless as well, very poor at communicating up-to-date information to passengers at times like these.

    I fly to and from the continent on a regular basis, but I won't be booking with Aer Lingus again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 garcc


    thanks for the reply. I should have known better. in 15 years of flying with them I have never known a time when "strike" talk was not in the mix somewhere. flying with Ryanair over the same period I have never had a problem. whats the difference in the 2 airlines=Union ****. will be checking this further tomorrow and will try the legal route. if anyone else has any ideas please suggest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Aer Lingus are a joke. The striking staff should be ****ed out on their ear. The airline itself is useless as well, very poor at communicating up-to-date information to passengers at times like these.

    I fly to and from the continent on a regular basis, but I won't be booking with Aer Lingus again.

    Thats not the problem. What more do you want them to do apart from press releases, website, messaging and emailing its passengers? There isn't much more they can do.
    They were excellent when I was stuck abroad (same place I currently am in now) during the Volcano problem in April last year, for example.

    The problem here is a union apparently agreeing on cost-cutting measures and now saying they didn't agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    garcc wrote: »
    thanks for the reply. I should have known better. in 15 years of flying with them I have never known a time when "strike" talk was not in the mix somewhere. flying with Ryanair over the same period I have never had a problem. whats the difference in the 2 airlines=Union ****. will be checking this further tomorrow and will try the legal route. if anyone else has any ideas please suggest
    What legal route? You're flight hasn't been cancelled yet and you're already thinking Litigation!

    Sorry to sound harsh. I don't care about the strike, but EI don't have to do anything about rebooking until the flight is cancelled. As Savman has already said, if they were to allow you to rebook before the cancellation it would merely be goodwill. But this is Aer Lingus we're talking about. When everything is going well, they're a great airline, but they're awful when you're trying to sort out things if problems arise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    JustinDee wrote: »
    Thats not the problem. What more do you want them to do apart from press releases, website, messaging and emailing its passengers? There isn't much more they can do.
    They were excellent when I was stuck abroad (same place I currently am in now) during the Volcano problem in April last year, for example.

    The problem here is a union apparently agreeing on cost-cutting measures and now saying they didn't agree.

    I've been caught up a few times in cancelled/delayed flights with Aer Lingus (most recently, for three days over Christmas) and found their information useless every time. Their website will tell you that a flight is "on schedule" literally an hour after its scheduled departure time, even if it's been delayed or cancelled. If you ring up their information number, you'll be put through to someone who's seemingly looking at the same website as you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 garcc


    What legal route? You're flight hasn't been cancelled yet and you're already thinking Litigation!

    Sorry to sound harsh. I don't care about the strike, but EI don't have to do anything about rebooking until the flight is cancelled. As Savman has already said, if they were to allow you to rebook before the cancellation it would merely be goodwill. But this is Aer Lingus we're talking about. When everything is going well, they're a great airline, but they're awful when you're trying to sort out things if problems arise.

    I hate anything to do wiith litigation and have never been in court in my life but we stand to lose about 7.000€ and not much is covered by travel ince. so I will try every possible option open to me. all they have to do now is allow me to cancel now as it will be too late to tell me sat morn when im at the airport. if they think there is even the slightest possibility of having to compensate me they may be a bit more cooperative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Wow, flying to Zurich on Friday. More than likely going to be let down. Thanks a lot IMPACT and Aer Lingus. Fire the lot of them and re-hire.

    Greedy lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    garcc wrote: »
    please help. I have a group of 11 who are supposed to fly with aer lingus on sat 22nd from cork. aer lingus have told us they cannot gurantee the flight will not be affected by the strike and we may not know this until sat morning. we have an option of traveling with another airline to a different airport to get to our original destination. problem is aer lingus will not refund us if we cancel our flight even though they will not gurantee us our flight. what are our rights regarding this? do we have the right to cancel and get full refund? I have only got till tomorrow to book the new flights where as if I wait till saturday it will be too late and we wil be stuck and miss our trip. very few other flight options from cork on saturday.
    please someone help.[/QUOTE
    airlines seem to be a law onto themself when it comes to refunds
    i could get tickets from belfast to amsterdam with easy jet except as you said i will not get a refund from aer lingus
    i was always a loyal EL customer never really minded paying a bit extra
    i will see how i get treated by them on saturday and decide will i travel with them in the future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭neilthefunkeone


    Flying to Dusseldorf tomorrow.. They have canecelled todays flights there.. guess i wont be going on my holiday now.. Thanks cabin crew!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    garcc wrote: »
    I hate anything to do wiith litigation and have never been in court in my life but we stand to lose about 7.000€ and not much is covered by travel ince. so I will try every possible option open to me. all they have to do now is allow me to cancel now as it will be too late to tell me sat morn when im at the airport. if they think there is even the slightest possibility of having to compensate me they may be a bit more cooperative.

    Can you modify the booking online and add insurance?
    Surely if Aer Lingus cannot tell you for definate that the flight will / will not be going, they are in no position to refuse insurance.

    At least in that case, you may be able to rebook on another airline and get compensation. You will need to read the T & C's though very carefully to see what's allowed in the case of cancellation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    garcc wrote: »
    I hate anything to do wiith litigation and have never been in court in my life but we stand to lose about 7.000€ and not much is covered by travel ince. so I will try every possible option open to me. all they have to do now is allow me to cancel now as it will be too late to tell me sat morn when im at the airport. if they think there is even the slightest possibility of having to compensate me they may be a bit more cooperative.

    There is a procedure for claiming refund or getting a rebooking. Its on the Aer Lingus website.
    If they cancel your flight, you are entitled, as they tell you already, to rebook or claim a refund. You are notified of cancellations by text message and email. The website is also updated as are all news services with press releases.
    Check before you go to the airport.

    Lots of people screwed the airlines out of money last April when there were unavoidable cancellations due to the volcanic eruption in Iceland (I refused to. I got cheap apt and rebooked a flight myself). This however is different. This is a dispute between a union and the airline with the passenger stuck in the middle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    I've been caught up a few times in cancelled/delayed flights with Aer Lingus (most recently, for three days over Christmas) and found their information useless every time. Their website will tell you that a flight is "on schedule" literally an hour after its scheduled departure time, even if it's been delayed or cancelled. If you ring up their information number, you'll be put through to someone who's seemingly looking at the same website as you.

    There is a news link that is bang-on up to date on the main page. It will list any flights being cancelled.
    This is what I referred to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭whippet


    Le King wrote: »
    Wow, flying to Zurich on Friday. More than likely going to be let down. Thanks a lot IMPACT and Aer Lingus. Fire the lot of them and re-hire.

    Greedy lot.

    my missus is supposed to be flying back from Zurich tomorrow night .... I think she is going to try and fly with someone else regardless.

    She will be willing to pay anything, during the volcano debacle she was stranded in Stockholm and ended up spending 8 days driving across europe trying to get home by any means possible. Ended up having to drive to brussells and get the eurostar across ... about €4500 on the company credit card too !!!! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭undo


    The way it looks to me, anyone whose flight is canceled should be covered by EU 261/2004. So if you rebook onto a later flight, EI should cover accommodation, ground transport and subsistence. I have a flight to Düsseldorf myself in a few days... if that is canceled, I will take a later one but expect EI to pay for my hotel until then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭pocketvenus


    Looks like this is going to continue for a long while.

    Female staff are now going the sexual discrimination route - oh Aer Lingus are penalising me for being a working mother. I cannot work these terms and carry out my family duties.

    FFS - they can't have it both ways. Typical and as a female am ashamed at these women for trying to play the equality route when it suits them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭ician


    ugh, nightmare. I have a flight on Tuesday booked via ebookers.ie from Dublin to Montreal via Heathrow. The Dublin to Heathrow section is operated by Aer Lingus for British Airways (that's what the british airways site tells me when I'm logged in) What if any refund would I get for the London - Montreal section of the flight, or a rebooking on another airline? Really have to catch the flight :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    undo wrote: »
    The way it looks to me, anyone whose flight is canceled should be covered by EU 261/2004. So if you rebook onto a later flight, EI should cover accommodation, ground transport and subsistence. I have a flight to Düsseldorf myself in a few days... if that is canceled, I will take a later one but expect EI to pay for my hotel until then.
    If they find you an alternative nearer the time of your original flight, you'd have to take it. If not, you would lose any claim on reimbursement on expenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭undo


    ician wrote: »
    The Dublin to Heathrow section is operated by Aer Lingus for British Airways

    If you have the entire journey ticketed by BA, it is their responsibility if one of the segments is canceled. They will have to rebook you - or offer you a full refund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭undo


    JustinDee wrote: »
    If they find you an alternative nearer the time of your original flight, you'd have to take it. If not, you would lose any claim on reimbursement on expenses.

    Absolutely. This was what I meant but I guess it was not clear from my post: I am happy for Aer Lingus to bump me by a day or two onto another flight. But if they do, I expect them to pay for a hotel in Dublin until then. And for food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Only Aer Lingus could launch a Sale and a Strike in the same week :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    talking to aer lingus earlier they said it should be resolved tonight some sort meeting they are having fingers crossed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/knowbeforeyoufly/messagefromchiefexecutive/

    A statement from the chief exec from the Aer Lingus site....Doesn't mention any specific flights though, only that they are gonna hire in aircraft to minimise the disruption


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