Signing on

Kerikosan

Will be signing onto job seekers benefit by the end of the week,
anyone else finds signing on as being depressing as ****?

Guill

Get a job ya bum!

FatherLen

depressing thread is depressing......

ejmaztec

The government has to make it as depressing as possible, or people wouldn't emigrate.

Hannibal Smith

Kerikosan wrote: »

Will be signing onto job seekers benefit by the end of the week,
anyone else finds signing on as being depressing as ****?

Chin up. I was put on a 3 day week and claim for the other two days, the staff at the Local Office are lovely and all I have to do is produce dockets every 4 weeks and collect my payment from the Local Post Office every week.

It's a gloomy affair job wise, but the actual 'signing on' bit ain't so bad.

AnonoBoy

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yeah, I suppose being a barman or a cleaner isn't good enough for you.

That's a bit harsh.

In case anyone hasn't noticed there's slightly less jobs going around these days than there was a few years ago.

Hannibal Smith

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yeah, I suppose being a barman or a cleaner isn't good enough for you.

*reality check* you lose your job, you sign on till you get another one

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yeah, I suppose being a barman or a cleaner isn't good enough for you.

Because they're crying out for barmen and cleaners everywhere. GTFO will you.

Cook my sock

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh how narrow minded these people are. Lord have mercy on them, for they cannot open their eyes and see the world around them - they see everything in black and white.

What are you on about!?

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh how narrow minded these people are. Lord have mercy on them, for they cannot open their eyes and see the world around them - they see everything in black and white.

I'm a fully qualified network administrator, in a job just over a year but prior to that I was on the dole for a good 6 months. Having handed CV's everywhere, pubs, shops, hotels.. You name it, not so much as a word back from anybody, why? Because in most cases they're cutting staff, not hiring.

Attack the post, not the poster: Jaysus that post looks idiotic to me.

Gunsfortoys

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh how narrow minded these people are. Lord have mercy on them, for they cannot open their eyes and see the world around them - they see everything in black and white.

If only they could make up fake news from a "reliable source" and make money off that.

My name is URL

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh Lord in Heaven above, even now they do not understand.

Who are you talking to?

JohnathanM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who are you talking to?

He's talking to me, creator of everything hiding out as some Joe. I'm not listening, though. That guy's f'cking nuts.

Will I Amnt

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh how narrow minded these people are. Lord have mercy on them, for they cannot open their eyes and see the world around them - they see everything in black and white.

Cop the **** on,in case you havnt noticed there's far less people able to afford going to the pubs which were mostly fully staffed anyway,where are you getting the idea that they have jobs for everyone??

Cook my sock

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Unlucky I suppose. Why do you have to rely on a company to hire you, can't you set up your own business.

Ah yeah, sure why dont we all do that. 450,000 new businesses
??????
Profit!

El Horseboxo

I have a job but have been checking the job sites keeping an eye out for jobs that mates might be interested in. But there is feck all. There's even very little jobs factory jobs that don't require experience that you could get before inbetween jobs you really want. That's the harsh reality of things. I find it amazing that people look down on those that have to sign on. You'd swear everyone on the dole are just out to rip off the state.

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Unlucky I suppose. Why do you have to rely on a company to hire you, can't you set up your own business.

This is hilarious..

TanG411

Wait a minute, Killer Pigeon isn't a pigeon at all!

He's a troll. :eek:

jimthemental

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Unlucky I suppose. Why do you have to rely on a company to hire you, can't you set up your own business.

This post seems kind of like trolling, anyway my point: how can you start a business without capital, he's hardly going to be flush with the job seekers allowance. Please stop pissing everyone off.

Cook my sock

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This is the perfect time to set up a business. Come up with an idea nobody else has thought of; market it, make it, sell it.

Be doin well to fund it off 188 euro.
Banks wont want to know ya.

Duggy747

*grabs popcorn*

I'm doing a voluntary job full time job just to keep me up to date in IT. I still keep an eye out on the regular job posts but even then the lack of jobs out there in any kind of field is brutal.

Anyone who thinks those on the dole are leeches or are the dreggs of society need to be pulled down off their high horse and be given a good kick up the arse.

-Trek-

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This is the perfect time to set up a business. Come up with an idea nobody else has thought of; market it, make it, sell it.

Is that you Bill Cullen?

highgiant1985

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Or if you can't find a job in a specific industry you have specialised in then you go work in a shop, cleaner, barman, etc.. But no, many Irish people just can't face the shame of having to work in such an underclass job. They rather waste taxpayers money and bemoan their very existence on the internet. Oh bu hoo! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it.



Slightly less job for specialised people yes. There are jobs out there if you know where to find them. Just don't be scared.

your talking crap mate a lot of the places you mention, shops, pubs, cleaner, won't hire people who come from certain back grounds professionally because they are over qualified and they know its highly likely if they do hire them that person will be gone as soon as they get a better offer. Some people won't apply for these types of jobs yes but it works both ways.

Guill

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Then edit your C.V. and take all those flamboyant qualification off. Use the head, you don't have to tell them everything.

Lying? At a job interview? Well i never!

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh, so anyone who's view are different to everyone else's is a troll? :rolleyes:

Not many places are hiring, even when they are, in most cases you're competing with people that are grossly overqualified with 10 years experience in said field.

It's next to impossible to get a bar job as if a spot arises, the manager/owner of said bar already has 100 CV's and has promised friends of friends a position if one becomes available

You can't open a business without money and currently the banks aren't loaning. I really mean it, you won't get more than €10,000 off any bank to open a business.

To elaborate, you need a stable income (Enough to pay rent, possibly business premises rent food, bills) to pay the bank back anyway, which isn't possible in the first year of a business.

This isn't an opinion, it's fact.

JohnathanM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Then edit your C.V. and take all those flamboyant qualification off. Use the head, you don't have to tell them everything.

Entering into contract from a basis of deception?

jimthemental

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This is the perfect time to set up a business. Come up with an idea nobody else has thought of; market it, make it, sell it.

Just isn't a viable option for even a quarter of the people on the jsa. As my lecturer in Smurfitt Business School said, "If you wan't to make money then sell cocaine, it's got a great profit margin." That kind of business is even hard to come by but the way you're talking it seems like there might still be demand.:rolleyes:

stovelid

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This is the perfect time to set up a business. Come up with an idea nobody else has thought of; market it, make it, sell it.

Contract pontificating seems like a high growth area at the moment?

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

It is when you say something that is false. It's not a lie if you don't tell someone a fact they don't ask for.

I'm hung 13 inches, like a horse I tell ya..

^The above is not a lie.

Sykk

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Sorry about that people, it appears my username was erm eh hijacked - it may have been Bill Cullen. In reality I'm a socialist and I believe that people have a right to receive job seekers allowance.

BURN HIM! :pac:

Hannibal Smith

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Or if you can't find a job in a specific industry you have specialised in then you go work in a shop, cleaner, barman, etc.. But no, many Irish people just can't face the shame of having to work in such an underclass job. They rather waste taxpayers money and bemoan their very existence on the internet. Oh bu hoo! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it.

and end up as bitter as you? :eek:

drdeadlift

Im taking killer pigeons side on this one,the amount of friends i know that have completly given up giving a dam about a job is very high.
I run a shop in town,in the last 12 months or so i have received two cvs what does that say.
And yes there are jobs out there.

ejmaztec

drdeadlift wrote: »

Im taking killer pigeons side on this one,the amount of friends i know that have completly given up giving a dam about a job is very high.
I run a shop in town,in the last 12 months or so i have received two cvs what does that say.
And yes there are jobs out there.

They'll all drown when the floods come.:(

Hannibal Smith

drdeadlift wrote: »

Im taking killer pigeons side on this one,the amount of friends i know that have completly given up giving a dam about a job is very high.
I run a shop in town,in the last 12 months or so i have received two cvs what does that say.
And yes there are jobs out there.

given up giving a dam? so they gave a damn at one point, and have now given up? Why?

Did you hire the two people?

TeddyTedson

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Sorry this is bull, one of the mods hijacked my post (have you ever noticed that mods like to type in bold print? - I'm a smart one I tells ya).

In reality I am a loyal supporter of the tea-party movement in the US. I hope some day that something like it can be set up here in Ireland.

WOOHOO TEA-BAGS!!

Feck the lazy leeching socialists and people pretending to be job seekers on the dole.

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Sorry about that people, it appears my username was erm eh hijacked - it may have been Bill Cullen. In reality I'm a socialist and I believe that people have a right to receive job seekers allowance.

So what's going on now?

drdeadlift

Hannibal Smith wrote: »

given up giving a dam? so they gave a damn at one point, and have now given up? Why?

Did you hire the two people?

Ok lets discuss giving up giving a dam yeah?

No they had very poor English funny they weren't paddys.

OutlawPete

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This is the perfect time to set up a business. Come up with an idea nobody else has thought of; market it, make it, sell it.

Good thinking Batman.

Do you think the Enterprise Board are just handing out grants or something?

Do you realise that they are government funded and so: unfunded.

Adyx

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Or if you can't find a job in a specific industry you have specialised in then you go work in a shop, cleaner, barman, etc.. But no, many Irish people just can't face the shame of having to work in such an underclass job. They rather waste taxpayers money and bemoan their very existence on the internet. Oh bu hoo! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it.



Slightly less job for specialised people yes. There are jobs out there if you know where to find them. Just don't be scared.

That is bollocks, what if the job you had was as a barman and you lost it because every fcuking club in the town shuts down. Same goes for any industry you care to mention. And there's nothing "underclass" about being a barman, especially if you're good at it. It's only people like you who have a problem doing these kind of jobs.

J K

Adyx wrote: »

And there's nothing "underclass" about being a barman, especially if you're good at it.

Like Tom Cruise in 'Cocktail'

Wudyaquit

I agree with pigeon - the OP should start a business with money he doesn't have, refuse the jobseekers that he's entitled to but then go to the bank and ask them for money they won't give, and then start a business with the original idea that he surely has (why everyone in the Ireland has an original idea that'll make them rich if they just bothered to do it, dummy). If them crumby banks won't bankroll him go "to some top invest" - (you'll find these top invests upstairs in some warehouse, that's where they hang out; just have a look. I seen it on dragon's den).

And if he doesn't want to do that, then the haure should be hung. The shops and cleaning firms are crying out for people and those 450,000 lazy jerks just can't be arsed even applying. The poor shops. Reduced business after christmas and jan sales, and them still crying out for additional staff but all the lazy dole bastarsd won't bother their holes helping them out.

gsxr1

Wudyaquit wrote: »

I agree with pigeon - the OP should start a business with money he doesn't have, refuse the jobseekers that he's entitled to but then go to the bank and ask them for money they won't give, and then start a business with the original idea that he surely has (why everyone in the Ireland has an original idea that'll make them rich if they just bothered to do it, dummy). If them crumby banks won't bankroll him go "to some top invest" - (you'll find these top invests upstairs in some warehouse, that's where they hang out; just have a look. I seen it on dragon's den).

And if he doesn't want to do that, then the haure should be hung. The shops and cleaning firms are crying out for people and those 450,000 lazy jerks just can't be arsed even applying. The poor shops. Reduced business after christmas and jan sales, and them still crying out for additional staff but all the lazy dole bastarsd won't bother their holes helping them out.

:eek::eek:

Could you please post where these jobs are advertised?

I have no shame left and dont even get the dole . I want one!
I got one interview in the last 3 months. You make it sound like there is a job for everyone.
I wish there was.

OP cheer up. Dont get into a rut with the dole. I did for one year till my hard earned stamps ran out.

Get your thinking cap on ...

Cook my sock

gsxr1 wrote: »

:eek::eek:

Could you please post where these jobs are advertised?

I have no shame left and dont even get the dole . I want one!
I got one interview in the last 3 months. You make it sound like there is a job for everyone.
I wish there was.

OP cheer up. Dont get into a rut with the dole. I did for one year till my hard earned stamps ran out.

Get your thinking cap on ...

I think he was being sarcastic.

Dudess

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yeah, I suppose being a barman or a cleaner isn't good enough for you.

Where did the OP indicate that?

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Or if you can't find a job in a specific industry you have specialised in then you go work in a shop, cleaner, barman, etc.. But no, many Irish people just can't face the shame of having to work in such an underclass job. They rather waste taxpayers money and bemoan their very existence on the internet. Oh bu hoo! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it.



Slightly less job for specialised people yes. There are jobs out there if you know where to find them. Just don't be scared.

Again, no indication of the above from the OP. Aren't you a teenage kid who's in college (sorry if I've the wrong person)? In which case, you haven't a clue.

evercloserunion

Successful troll is successful methinks.

Adyx

J K wrote: »

Like Tom Cruise in 'Cocktail'

Pfft, he had nothing on me. If he was a barman in Ireland he'd get the shit beaten out of him for spending more time dancing and posing then actually serving drinks. And rightly so.

Kerikosan

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yeah, I suppose being a barman or a cleaner isn't good enough for you.

wtf? you act like im sum kind of upper class tit? My work industry is Hospitality and catering I have 2 Professional qualifications including a degree as a chef and 6 years experience with very good restaurants so my current position would be sous chef (2nd chef in charge) my last job was in a very nice 4 star hotel in Limerick where I took a huge step down the ranks to just a chef de partie so I could learn more and because I needed a job. and I was let go because things in the hotel were quiet and were going to be getting very quiet January - march and there was way too many kitchen staff so since I was last hired I was let go. that was on the 5th of December.

Since then I've had to come back to cork because I could not afford to stay in limerick anymore & I actively been searching for job oppurtunities and been handing my CV into neary every restaurant and hotel in cork. Got 2 call backs but they were looking for 1. a mandarin/chinese speaking head chef for a chinese restaurant which to be honest is completly unattainable unless you are an ethnic chef and the second being so far away from where I live (and i don't drive) it would have been impossible to work there also.

highgiant1985 wrote: »

your talking crap mate a lot of the places you mention, shops, pubs, cleaner, won't hire people who come from certain back grounds professionally because they are over qualified and they know its highly likely if they do hire them that person will be gone as soon as they get a better offer. Some people won't apply for these types of jobs yes but it works both ways.

I agree, I applied in desperation for a barman job in my local, applied for a job as a bouncer, applied to mace, centra and ****ing supervalue and applyed to for 2 jobs as a waiter as I had sum experience years n years ago working as one. but hardly no Call backs.

All asked my relevent experience in each of these line of work and besides knowing of how to work a till, and use cleaning equipment and dishwashers and cook etc. "I was either over qualified or not suitable for the position due to my experience in other fields" :rolleyes:

So today I had officially no other choice but to go and apply for job seekers benefit I have 20.46Euro in my wallet and after that im ****ed.
I have worked solidly since 6th year in school so I've more than enough Tax & PRSI stamps so in a way I've earned my benifit.

It was weird though as I went in and got my ticket and waited then went to the window and talked to the receptionist he was completly shocked as to why I waited over a month to go on benifit?

My answer was because I was trying to get a ****ing job & not just sit on my ass

anyway on a lighter note if anyone here hears of a full time chef job of some sort give me a pm

Dudess

You'd need a lot of experience to be a barman now - look at all the others you'd be up against. It's only people with views like the OP who are looking down on it and considering it a "lesser" job. It can be quite a high-demand number actually, and not everyone is suitable for it.