Gatso vans - Meath

Fiskar

Thought these Gatso vans were to be in white livery with all the appropriate markings?

Spotted a Red Transit van (10 KY ...) parked on the Navan side of Dunshaughlin last week with a rear shroud sticking up. Same type vehicle was parked up on the Clonnee bypass before the M3 section last week and today (9am).

Seems to be very easy now to get caught going to Navan as if it wasn't expensive enough with fuel.

Anyone else spot this vehicle on the Navan to Dublin route via M2 / M3?

Atomic Pineapple

Nope, they can be several colours, if they didn't have speed camera stickers then they were only surveying the road to see if a % of people break the limit.

IE: checking to see if placing actual cameras there will result in a profit.

Fiskar

They had no markings at all, but that rear shroud defo looked like a camera. Come to think of it, passed a blue van between Urlingford and Johnstown in the midlands that had only a 250mm square camera sticker on the side of it. Won't be taking any chances though.

bladespin

Same two were on the N2 on Saturday afternoon.

Not

I remember reading somewhere in the media a while ago that a certain percentage of their speed detection operations where to be carried out in a covert fashion (20% I think) and IIRC it mentioned something about tending towards 100% in the future as some study had come up with this as being the most effective deterrent (or was it most effective way to catch people ?) I also remember reading that they have remote cameras that can be used outside of the van, eg stuck in a bush or whatever.

Anyway, whether or not whatever I read was accurate or remembered properly, I just would not be assuming a speed camera van is going to have great big signs advertising its presence.

adelcrowsmel

Fiskar wrote: »

Thought these Gatso vans were to be in white livery with all the appropriate markings?

Spotted a Red Transit van (10 KY ...) parked on the Navan side of Dunshaughlin last week with a rear shroud sticking up. Same type vehicle was parked up on the Clonnee bypass before the M3 section last week and today (9am).

Seems to be very easy now to get caught going to Navan as if it wasn't expensive enough with fuel.

Anyone else spot this vehicle on the Navan to Dublin route via M2 / M3?

I saw that red unmarked van in both locations also Fiskar. I first saw it on the N3/M3 I think last wednesday, it was just after the Clonee slip-off - direction: heading towards Navan - it was parked up in the Gardaí area just a little bit into the 120km speed limit - I was wondering at the time whether it was there to catch people in the 100km zone or the 120km zone - what is the range on these things?! I then saw it the following morning on the stretch between Ross Cross and Dunshaughlin (nearer Dunshaughlin) - it was at about 6.30am in the pitch dark and I wouldn't have recognised it for what it was only that I had seen it the previous day!!

Fiskar

Best to be wary of any vans parked up, I don't know what the range of the camera is but if you can see it then it can see you!
I would expect it to be 100 metres from the van for a nice clear picture.

Lucky for me that I use the motorbike so cannot get caught too easily

Access

Jesus lads... are ye paranoid or what?

I saw a van today outside maxol on dublin road... yellow in colour and i could see the driver in the back wearing a white jacket, he looked a bit suspicious.

Think im okay though... it said brennans on the side of it.

Dont speed and break the limit and ye wont have any problems... Simple!

hadook

Fiskar wrote: »

They had no markings at all, but that rear shroud defo looked like a camera. Come to think of it, passed a blue van between Urlingford and Johnstown in the midlands that had only a 250mm square camera sticker on the side of it. Won't be taking any chances though.

What do you mean by rear shroud? Is that in the van or outside it?

I've seen it three times in the last couple of weeks (Navan-Kingscourt Road, N3 dual carriageway & parked outside Mace in Carlanstown village) but I don't remember seeing anything other than a red van basically covered in big stickers.

Lucifer-0

Anyone see the van parked on the side of the Trim road coming into Navan last night? Think I was caught by the fockers. I didn't notice a flash but to be honest I only noticed the van as I drove right passed it.

bladespin

Access wrote: »

Jesus lads... are ye paranoid or what?

I saw a van today outside maxol on dublin road... yellow in colour and i could see the driver in the back wearing a white jacket, he looked a bit suspicious.

Think im okay though... it said brennans on the side of it.

Dont speed and break the limit and ye wont have any problems... Simple!

Ah, if only we could believe that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8j3-uuM8fY

meercat

hadook wrote: »

What do you mean by rear shroud? Is that in the van or outside it?

I've seen it three times in the last couple of weeks (Navan-Kingscourt Road, N3 dual carriageway & parked outside Mace in Carlanstown village) but I don't remember seeing anything other than a red van basically covered in big stickers.

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pullandbang

Lucifer-0 wrote: »

Anyone see the van parked on the side of the Trim road coming into Navan last night? Think I was caught by the fockers. I didn't notice a flash but to be honest I only noticed the van as I drove right passed it.

Yep! I didn't notice it at 8.00pm but it was there at 11.00pm on my way back home. :eek:

kc66

They have been in the 50kmph stretch of Maudlin road Kells a few times.

Duster

draffodx wrote: »

Nope, they can be several colours, if they didn't have speed camera stickers then they were only surveying the road to see if a % of people break the limit.

IE: checking to see if placing actual cameras there will result in a profit.

How do you know this for certain ? Have you seen this in print somewhere ?

I wouldnt trust them... in my area they are hiding in laneways and behind bushes or signs so its not exactly the "high profile as a deterrant rather than a money making exercise " stance that they spout all the time !!!

taffy1973

last sunday morning (16th) there was a silver renault master van 10 KY

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with signage on it parked up near navan hire on the kells side of navan clocking people coming in past newgate mercedes around the bend at 07:20 in the morning (still dark!!!!!!) :rolleyes:

Not

meercat wrote: »

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What puzzles me is why they need vans that big ?

Just not to forget, the ones the Gardai use, which are still in operation, dont have that distinctive bump, and are not all marked.

hadook

Interesting, thanks for the pics meercat. The hood bit definitely wasn't up on the one I spotted in Carlanstown.

(I was a bit irritated when I spotted it because a "safety measure" shouldn't be blocking most of the parking spaces outside a busy shop. Guess it's possible the driver was just in the shop so )

meercat

Not wrote: »

What puzzles me is why they need vans that big ?

Just not to forget, the ones the Gardai use, which are still in operation, dont have that distinctive bump, and are not all marked.

the new ones can operate at night(hump is the light for flash)
they can pick you up coming to or going away from van

mcwhirter

taffy1973 wrote: »

last sunday morning (16th) there was a silver renault master van 10 KY

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with signage on it parked up near navan hire on the kells side of navan clocking people coming in past newgate mercedes around the bend at 07:20 in the morning (still dark!!!!!!) :rolleyes:

Are they parking off the road or on the hard shoulder on dual carriageways.

Surely that could be more of a danger then speeding if someone accidently;) ploughs into the back of the fookers.

Fiskar

meercat wrote: »

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Thanks for the pics Meercat, yes the blue one was the type in Urlingford and the pesky red was the one floating through the roads in Meath.
Not happy about the fact they get you in either direction as that means I can get caught on the bike !
Don't think you stand a chance in the dark as you'll be in their sights before you can slow down.
They must be getting a heck of a lot of drivers but haven't heard of anyone caught yet.

mcwhirter

Spotted camera van on the navan to trim road R161. This road is easy to speed on but I am sure it was mentioned that they would only use them on dangerous roads where a record of crashes has been noted.

This road is extremely safe and as it is easy to exceed the 80km limit will become a money racket. I am disappointed about being lied too again by this bloody government.

bladespin

mcwhirter wrote: »

Spotted camera van on the navan to trim road R161. This road is easy to speed on but I am sure it was mentioned that they would only use them on dangerous roads where a record of crashes has been noted.

This road is extremely safe and as it is easy to exceed the 80km limit will become a money racket. I am disappointed about being lied too again by this bloody government.

There have been several fatal accidents on that road over the years.

mcwhirter

bladespin wrote: »

There have been several fatal accidents on that road over the years.

Since the road has been redone?.I'm surprised as its a good safe stretch and far far better then the previous road that was dangerous with the tight bends/bad surface etc.

I can't remember seeing speed cameras when the road was bad then.

bladespin

mcwhirter wrote: »

Since the road has been redone?.I'm surprised as its a good safe stretch and far far better then the previous road that was dangerous with the tight bends/bad surface etc.

I can't remember seeing speed cameras when the road was bad then.

Not since it was improved but the bumf about the cameras was any road that had a fatality TBH I'd imagine that is every road in the country in some form or another.
There were camera vans used on it over the years, I used to used it everyday at varying hours, the white transit the local garda used to pop up close to where the football facilities are now.

shedweller

Last night as i was heading south through Kilmoon cross there was a camera van parked on the other side facing north. The back doors were open and the man standing behind the van took a picture of me or at least used a flash. I was under the limit but i'm wondering what he was up to?

bladespin

shedweller wrote: »

Last night as i was heading south through Kilmoon cross there was a camera van parked on the other side facing north. The back doors were open and the man standing behind the van took a picture of me or at least used a flash. I was under the limit but i'm wondering what he was up to?

Possibly calibrating the camera, adjusting focus etc. Wouldn't worry about it.

shedweller

Cheers. I figured there was something technical going on, rather than catching cars speeding

Fiskar

Shedweller, what colour was this van, with offical livery or the red one that is moping around?

shedweller

Fiskar wrote: »

Shedweller, what colour was this van, with offical livery or the red one that is moping around?

It had the stickers on it. I think it was white, but it was howling wind and rain at the time.

Mycro 89

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1y6ycG9zgk

The Flash at 18 seconds into the video attached, does this mean the person in question was caught for speeding??

bladespin

Looks more like lights being reflected, a flash from a Gatso (x2) would be much brighter than that, camera vans don't flash, they use infra red.

Mycro 89

bladespin wrote: »

Looks more like lights being reflected, a flash from a Gatso (x2) would be much brighter than that, camera vans don't flash, they use infra red.

So no penalty points in this case??

bladespin

Mycro 89 wrote: »

So no penalty points in this case??

Depends how fast he went past, with the van there's no way of telling until the fine and points land in the post box (other than not speeding past one that is).

Mycro 89

bladespin wrote: »

Depends how fast he went past, with the van there's no way of telling until the fine and points land in the post box (other than not speeding past one that is).

Thanks for that, I thought that the flash in the video was the flash that offending motorist would experience when exceeding the speed limit.

bladespin

Unfortunately I have the points to prove this

Mycro 89

bladespin wrote: »

Unfortunately I have the points to prove this

Sorry Bladespin, but do you have the points for the flash (x2) or just from a flash similar to that in the video?

bladespin

Mycro 89 wrote: »

Sorry Bladespin, but do you have the points for the flash (x2) or just from a flash similar to that in the video?

No flash, those cameras don't need a flash to get you.

wnut3

Got caught by the red van (with limited/ no markings) at Kilsale in Trim.

Mycro 89

wnut3 wrote: »

Got caught by the red van (with limited/ no markings) at Kilsale in Trim.

Was there a flash?? Was it day or night?

wnut3

no flash, pitch black at night 10.02pm I think it said on the fine, and we were moving out here that night, so not familiar with the roads/speeds etc. my husband was behind me in the van, i was directly in front of him (obviously going slightly fast than him) and the VAN got the fine, not the car??? not complaining.....i was waiting on two fines/points

Fiskar

Fiskar wrote: »

Thought these Gatso vans were to be in white livery with all the appropriate markings?

Spotted a Red Transit van (10 KY ...) parked on the Navan side of Dunshaughlin last week with a rear shroud sticking up. Same type vehicle was parked up on the Clonnee bypass before the M3 section last week and today (9am).

Seems to be very easy now to get caught going to Navan as if it wasn't expensive enough with fuel.

Anyone else spot this vehicle on the Navan to Dublin route via M2 / M3?

What's the position with that 50km zone on the old N3 /R147? Gatso van parked there (red van) on the 4th and all of us passed through at 75 km, me being the last car

bladespin

There are survey vans (no markings) apparently, they're not catching people just carrying out a feasability study on whether it's worth putting a van there in future, there was a red one on the Navan/Trim road a while back.

MagicSean

The private vans are marked. The ones run by the Gardai are not.

bladespin

MagicSean wrote: »

The private vans are marked. The ones run by the Gardai are not.

Some are, some are not, there are unmarked private survey vans too, same as there are marked Garda units too.

Not

bladespin wrote: »

Some are, some are not, there are unmarked private survey vans too, same as there are marked Garda units too.

The Gardai actually stick the stickers on the van when it arrives at the side of the road if they want the van to be noticed. Seen them doing it on the N4 a while back.

bladespin

Not wrote: »

The Gardai actually stick the stickers on the van when it arrives at the side of the road if they want the van to be noticed. Seen them doing it on the N4 a while back.

Seen a few in Cork, Garda logo on the back window - on the other side the camera was easy to spot too.