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Dalai Lama to visit city where fear has overwhelmed hope

  • 16-01-2011 9:34pm
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    caseyann
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    I found this very interesting while i have not in slightest idea what buddhism is about,except peace and bald heads and orange robes.
    I am highly impressed by the Dalai lama's visit to Limerick.
    I am not sure how much influence or if any he will have.But i find them quite fascinating.


    THE Dalai Lama is to make a peace visit to Limerick, where people spoke last week of the sense of hopelessness in the city in the wake of the double murder of heroin addict Dessie Kelly and his girlfriend Breda Waters.

    The Tibetan Buddhist leader and Nobel Peace laureate is visiting Ireland at the request of charities involved in helping children caught in conflict. Although his itinerary is yet to be announced, it is understood that he will appeal for peace during a visit to Limerick, where children are getting caught up in feuding and drugs-related violence.

    What you think as a catholic?I think one of the only religions with good heart and good background of history.Not sure if they had many scandals.


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  • #2
    ubertrad
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    caseyann wrote: »
    I found this very interesting while i have not in slightest idea what buddhism is about,except peace and bald heads and orange robes.
    I am highly impressed by the Dalai lama's visit to Limerick.
    I am not sure how much influence or if any he will have.But i find them quite fascinating.

    The Tibetan Buddhist leader and Nobel Peace laureate is visiting Ireland at the request of charities involved in helping children caught in conflict. Although his itinerary is yet to be announced, it is understood that he will appeal for peace during a visit to Limerick, where children are getting caught up in feuding and drugs-related violence.

    What you think as a catholic?I think one of the only religions with good heart and good background of history.Not sure if they had many scandals.

    I'm sure the DL is a nice man, and if it rubs off on the local youths, then that is good. Buddhism was described by Pope Benedict as 'spiritual auto-eroticism'. Buddhism is essentially a narcissistic self-love, with a few positive side effects I suppose. The prevalence of Buddhist belief and practice has caused many problems in the Catholic Church, particularly aiding in the demise of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits), who have little to no vocations and whose members include those currently causing some problems here in Ireland, amongst other places. One of the tenets of Buddhism is acceptance, and so this may lead some to tolerate or even condone behaviour which is regarded as sin according to the Catholic faith.

    There is a good article by Catholic philosopher Peter Kreeft comparing Christianity and Buddhism here.

    This is an excellent summary of Buddhism.

    As regards sexual abuse, I suppose it occurs among Buddhists too:

    CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE BY BUDDHIST MONKS IN SRI LANKA

    Sri Lanka's National Child Protection Authority (NCPA) has arrested scores of Buddhist monks for alleged sex abuse of boys in their care in recent years.

    Buddhist sex abuse cases

    :(


  • #3
    Azure_sky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Azure_sky


    ubertrad wrote: »
    I'm sure the DL is a nice man, and if it rubs off on the local youths, then that is good. Buddhism was described by Pope Benedict as 'spiritual auto-eroticism'. Buddhism is essentially a narcissistic self-love,

    O.K. this is completely incorrect. Narcissism is about being egotistical and self absorbed, Buddhism aims to extinguish self obsession and egoism-hardly narcissitic self love.


  • #4
    marty1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭marty1985


    Is he really visiting Limerick? That's cool. Has he visited Ireland before?

    I would count myself as one of the millions of Buddhist sympathizers in the West, because as a religion it is just so darn cool.

    Also, there's no need to mention sex abuse in a thread about the Dalai Lama visiting Limerick, let's not go down that road. Even though, as Fanny Cradock would say, if one wants to go east, one must go west.

    ;p


  • #5
    chucken1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    caseyann wrote: »
    I found this very interesting while i have not in slightest idea what buddhism is about,except peace and bald heads and orange robes.
    I am highly impressed by the Dalai lama's visit to Limerick.
    I am not sure how much influence or if any he will have.But i find them quite fascinating.


    THE Dalai Lama is to make a peace visit to Limerick, where people spoke last week of the sense of hopelessness in the city in the wake of the double murder of heroin addict Dessie Kelly and his girlfriend Breda Waters.

    The Tibetan Buddhist leader and Nobel Peace laureate is visiting Ireland at the request of charities involved in helping children caught in conflict. Although his itinerary is yet to be announced, it is understood that he will appeal for peace during a visit to Limerick, where children are getting caught up in feuding and drugs-related violence.

    What you think as a catholic?I think one of the only religions with good heart and good background of history.Not sure if they had many scandals.

    Can you let me know if you get details? :) I would love to be in his presence. :)


  • #6
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    marty1985 wrote: »
    Even though, as Fanny Cradock would say, if one wants to go east, one must go west.

    ;p

    That sounds far too intelligent an utterance for me. Perhaps you're talking about the "real" Fanny Craddock?

    Anyway, I had the pleasure of briefly meeting the DL a number of years ago when I flirted with the idea of Buddhism. Even though I was to quickly reject Buddhism, it occurred to me that HH was in one way or another working towards the Kingdom of God. If he brings a calming influence to some of the more violent people in Limerick then all the better.

    Still, I find it odd that he would see Limerick as requiring his special attention above the countless other flashpoints around the world. This said, having some very small personal knowledge of gang-land violence in Ireland (I could tell stories of barbarity that would seem only possible in the nastiest of horror films) perhaps we need all the help we can get.

    I'd like to see a cross religious front against violence in Ireland.

    Let's reserve this thread


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  • #7
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    That last line should have read:

    "Let's reserve this thread for discussing the visit". Meaning that I don't want this thread to be sidetracked by whatever skeletons people can drag out of the closet.


  • #8
    marty1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭marty1985


    marty1985 wrote: »
    Even though, as Fanny Cradock would say, if one wants to go east, one must go west.

    ;p

    Mystery Men reference!

    I think it's great that he's visiting Limerick. Would love to be there myself if I'm in Ireland at the time.


  • #9
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    marty1985 wrote: »
    Is he really visiting Limerick? That's cool. Has he visited Ireland before?

    I would count myself as one of the millions of Buddhist sympathizers in the West, because as a religion it is just so darn cool.

    Also, there's no need to mention sex abuse in a thread about the Dalai Lama visiting Limerick, let's not go down that road. Even though, as Fanny Cradock would say, if one wants to go east, one must go west.

    ;p

    He only visited up north a few times.
    chucken1 wrote: »
    Can you let me know if you get details? :) I would love to be in his presence. :)

    I checked his dates and doesnt seem to be anything on it about Ireland yet.
    http://www.dalailama.com/teachings/schedule


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dalai-lama-to-visit-city-where-fear-has-overwhelmed-hope-2498080.html


  • #10
    homer911
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    Perhaps it should be moved here...
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=373


  • #11
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    homer911 wrote: »
    Perhaps it should be moved here...
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=373

    Seen as i asked a question for catholics,it is where it should be thanks :)


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  • #12
    caseyann
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    On April 13th, he will deliver a talk on universal responsibility during the Social Forum at the Citywest Hotel in Dublin which will also be attended by former president Mary Robinson. The following day, he will visit the Solas Bhríde Centre in Kildare where he will speak on spirituality.

    He will conclude his visit on the following day at the University of Limerick, where he will deliver a talk on the power of forgiveness.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0201/breaking22.html

    I would like to know is it going to be a walk in talk or will they charge.


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