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a bit of black

  • 14-01-2011 9:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41


    Even before I started hunting I would spend a lot of time walking through the mourne mountains and observing the wild life, where the mournes sweep down to the fishing village of Kilkeel, brent geese would migrate down from canada to winter, we are not alloud to shoot them even though there are about 40,000 of them streched along the coast. High up there are hares to be seen and their mastery of running over the rough terrain could leave grey hounds baffled. John Joe Power a ledgenary story teller and fiddler player, asked me one day if I have ever seen a lizzard, yes when I worked in Nigeria ther were plenty I said, no he said, here in the mournes there is a local lizzard and few have ever seen them, I only saw the one in my eighty years he said. Checking out a book on local wild life I found that there is a species in the mournes. Another species I have came across recently is black rabbits, some say they are rare in Ireland, in my area where I shoot I have found two, although I would not shoot them. So are they rare in your area or maybe you see them all over the place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Deerspotter


    Black rabbits used to be seen as a bad luck omen as when you saw one, it meant the rabbit population would soon be wiped out.
    However, my theory is that they are a sign of over population and inbreeding. When the population reaches this number, they enter older and older warrens and eventualy get to the one that still holds the mexi virus, thus causing the population to be wiped out. I see this cycle every 10 to 15 years around my area.
    Just a theory though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭landkeeper


    black is a recessive gene in rabbits and they pop up in most warrens here there are quite a few black lads in the fields and the old lads say they have allways been about round here ds your theory is partially correct mxy is a virus spread by fleas when they bite the rabbits and contained in their saliva so it needs to remain alive in a host ie the flea or a rabbit
    what happens is that as populations increase they spread out at the edges and are more likely to come into contact with other populations that have the active infection and it's passed back so to speak
    of course there is the other more sinister way when landowners get fed up with rabbit damage and source a couple of infected rabbits and release them
    or rabbit fleas on a ferret or such like 'hop'off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Bunny Buster


    Bit of black you say!? How about a bit of ginger!! I was out shooting some rabbits last summer, and whilst taking a shot at one, I hit another that was covered by a small clump of rushes! When I went over to retrieve the one I had shot, I discovered the second one which turned out to have orange/ginger fur!! Needless to say, I was a bit shocked, as I had never seen one like it in the wild before! Mind you, they both tasted nice! :D I have a photo of it somewhere, I will post it here when I find it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    There used to be a ginger one grazing beside the road on the way to work. I saw it first and thought it was a cat. That was a few years back and never seen one since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Spunk84


    There could be a possibility of a black pet rabbit being dumped in the field and bred with the wild ones. The next door neighbour threw his snow White rabbit out into the field a year ago and the thing is still running around along with very weird looking White/brown/black/Ginger hybrids :) surprised a fox hasn't lifted it yet! You can't get near it either, if it sees you it bolts into a hole.... Will have to get a pic the next time I see it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Bunny Buster


    Spunk84 wrote: »
    very weird looking White/brown/black/Ginger hybrids :)

    Don't let your local Chinese takeaway get wind of that one!!! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Feidhlim Dignan


    i was asked to shoot rabbits on a farm last yeah and at least 20% of them were black, i just put it down to in breeding or something. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Bunny Buster


    Here is Bugs Bunny's ginger cousin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    I remember a few gingers roaming around here when i was a kid.. There were a few darkies too and the story at the time was they originated from released pets.. Sadly the cats ended up wearing most of them as fur coats.. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    For some reason black rabbits tend to be associated with sandy areas whether coastal dunes or inland quarries. I have no idea what the reason for this is:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭johnner1


    The Common or green lizard is native to ireland, there is a small place near killiney in Dublin that used to hold a few;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    For some reason black rabbits tend to be associated with sandy areas whether coastal dunes or inland quarries. I have no idea what the reason for this is:confused:

    We had a few black ones about and theres nothin but granite under the grass round here.. Maybe they got lost on their way to courtown or tramore?? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    We've a few black rabbits in this area too. I see them in the sandy spots, but not in the other areas yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Theres black rabbits on Dalkey Island, I've seen them from the boat while fishing. Apparently some one dumped some unwanted pets out there and the black genes have become dominant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    seen 2 black rabbits in the field one evening, came back with the gun that night and shot one of them. havent seen the other since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭thekevin4540


    i got black rabbits ginger rabbit and rabbits with bits of white on them on the lamp with lurchers. and did any one see a black fox i heard of them but never seen one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭J.R.


    i got black rabbits ginger rabbit and rabbits with bits of white on them on the lamp with lurchers. and did any one see a black fox i heard of them but never seen one

    here's a blonde rabbit I shot

    rabbit-blonde.jpg


    black fox shot in UK

    blackfox-1.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    thats a nice rabbit JR when was it shot? the black fox looks more like a big cat than a fox or a dog, that would be a nice one to stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭J.R.


    thats a nice rabbit JR when was it shot? the black fox looks more like a big cat than a fox or a dog, that would be a nice one to stuff!

    BLONDE RABBIT

    Blonde rabbit was shot in Carlow about 2 years ago.There was about 6 of them blonde rabbits there & 4 black rabbits among hundreds of 'ordinary' rabbits.

    Farm was infested with rabbits and the farmer who was leasing the land wanted them controlled. They had some damage done....the headlands around the fields were eaten bare like a lawn about 80 yards out from the hedge.

    Had some great shooting there with the .22 until the landowner told the farmer that he had leased him the land for grazing and not the shooting rights....he was an animal lover....we met the landowner....when he pointed out he didn't agree with killing anything..'live & let live' he said.......we accepted his viewpoint, explaining to him why we were shooting there ...then packed up.......shooting finished there and then.

    We knew the land was leased and had asked the farmer if the landowner was okay with shooting....he said there was no problem shooting vermin but there would be no pheasant shooting. We took the farmers word at the time when we saw the damage that was being done.

    BLACK FOX
    I've never seen a totally black fox myself lkie that one in the photo. I've often shot what seemed to be a black fox in the distance but on closer examination he was red with lots of black hairs coming through.

    That clip & photo of the fox was scanned by me from the 'Shooting Times' magazine.


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