Public transport to Bewley's Hotel, Newland's Cross

Buddhapadge

Hey folks,
I'm looking to get to the Bewley's hotel at Newland's Cross from the city centre, what's the best way? The DB website gave me the 69, but the schedule doesn't look great for it.
Paddy

Losty Dublin

Buddhapadge wrote: »

Hey folks,
I'm looking to get to the Bewley's hotel at Newland's Cross from the city centre, what's the best way? The DB website gave me the 69, but the schedule doesn't look great for it.
Paddy

The 51C is your best bet; it's got a better level of service and it leaves you maybe 5 minutes walk away.

Buddhapadge

Beautiful. Any idea how long the journey is?

starviewadams

30/40 mins off peak,50-60 mins rush hour.
Get off 2 stops after Tesco in Clondalkin Village or tell the driver your going to Bewleys and ask him to give you a shout when its your stop.

lynchie

Or If you dont mind walking, take the Luas red line to Red Cow and walk to newlands cross from there, should take < 15 mins.

CIE

Losty Dublin wrote: »

The 51C is your best bet; it's got a better level of service and it leaves you maybe 5 minutes walk away.

Of course, when the old 51 was a frequent bus route, it would have been the best overall. The 51C takes the grand tour via Woodford and all.

When this thread goes out of date, the unequivocal advice will have to be to take the 13, mainly due to the lack of alternative. (The 69 from the Luas will be another, albeit balkanised, adjacent route that won't be as convenient.)

PS. What they did to Tower Road in Clondalkin centre is completely insane. Not making it one-way, but making it as narrow as Temple Bar was when the 78/A/B and 79 operated on there.

Buddhapadge

lynchie wrote: »

Or If you dont mind walking, take the Luas red line to Red Cow and walk to newlands cross from there, should take < 15 mins.

I try and avoid the Red Line myself at all costs. It's my mother who'll be going to Bewley's anyway, and I wouldn't feel great with her getting on the tram unless she absolutely had to. I'm just surprised that a major junction hasn't got a decent bus service running past it. Isn't there an Aldi and everything there? You'd think there would be demand.

LXFlyer

To be fair the junction is served by the 76/a/b and 210 both of which serve housing estates in the area and the 51c is 5 minutes away also.

starviewadams

No busses going to the City Centre serve Newlands X directly unfortunately(cos I live right beside it!.)
The walk down the Naas Road from the Red Cow Luas station isnt the most pleasant on a winters day either.But the walk from where the 51C drops you,up to Bewleys is only about 5mins in fairness.

There was supposed to be a Metro West stop built beside Newlands X at the current location of St.Bridgets Well but I doubt that will ever see the light of day in the current climate.

Buddhapadge

lxflyer wrote: »

To be fair the junction is served by the 76/a/b and 210 both of which serve housing estates in the area and the 51c is 5 minutes away also.

I suppose that's fair enough for local people who want to go to the shops. The 51c seems like the way to go, definitely. At least until the helicopter is out of the garage.

Losty Dublin

Buddhapadge wrote: »

I try and avoid the Red Line myself at all costs. It's my mother who'll be going to Bewley's anyway, and I wouldn't feel great with her getting on the tram unless she absolutely had to. I'm just surprised that a major junction hasn't got a decent bus service running past it. Isn't there an Aldi and everything there? You'd think there would be demand.

Two reasons why not. There are no houses as such on the N 7 to warrant buses running on it and not much in the line of businesses (Or indeed safe crossing places on the road. Traffic also takes forever making the right turn into Clondalkin from the carriageway so it's more practical, quicker and safer to run as it does through the houses and into the village.

Buddhapadge

That makes sense. I've only ever gone past the area in a car on the way out to Naas, I'm from the other side of the city.

CIE

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Two reasons why not. There are no houses as such on the N 7 to warrant buses running on it and not much in the line of businesses (Or indeed safe crossing places on the road. Traffic also takes forever making the right turn into Clondalkin from the carriageway so it's more practical, quicker and safer to run as it does through the houses and into the village.

People don't ride buses to run locally past houses when they are looking for point-A-to-point-B transportation, e.g. to work and back. This is why limited-stop and express buses on city services do well, and DB has not executed either of those particularly effectively.

If the Newlands Cross junction is that troublesome to make a right turn from the Naas Road westbound onto Belgarde Road/New Road, then perhaps it should be redesigned? Maybe the NRA needs to learn about jug-handles.

Losty Dublin

CIE wrote: »

People don't ride buses to run locally past houses when they are looking for point-A-to-point-B transportation, e.g. to work and back. This is why limited-stop and express buses on city services do well, and DB has not executed either of those particularly effectively.

I actually don't see what your point is doing to help OP find Bewley's but it's worth pointing out here that places with a lot of houses warrants a bus service whereas a dual carriage with no buildings whatsoever on one side and a few houses and car garages doesn't.

CIE wrote: »

If the Newlands Cross junction is that troublesome to make a right turn from the Naas Road westbound onto Belgarde Road/New Road, then perhaps it should be redesigned? Maybe the NRA needs to learn about jug-handles.

That junction is earmarked to be rebuilt as an at grade flyover.

KD345

CIE wrote: »

People don't ride buses to run locally past houses when they are looking for point-A-to-point-B transportation, e.g. to work and back. This is why limited-stop and express buses on city services do well, and DB has not executed either of those particularly effectively.

The current 51b/c routing is far more beneficial to residents in South Clondalkin than the old days of it staying on the Nass Road to Newlands Cross where it picked up no passengers. I don't believe there is any demand for an all day express service for Clondalkin, as the frequent 151 has a QBC for most of it's journey, and the 51D and 69X Expresso services operate at peak times.

To return to the OP, here is a map of stops for the 51C. I think stop 4665 is the nearest to the hotel.


http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Examples/Google-Map/?routeNumber=51C&direction=O&towards=Grange+Castle

markpb

Buddhapadge wrote: »

I try and avoid the Red Line myself at all costs. It's my mother who'll be going to Bewley's anyway, and I wouldn't feel great with her getting on the tram unless she absolutely had to

Why? Do you mean trams in general, trams in Dublin or the red line specifically?

Buddhapadge

markpb wrote: »

Why? Do you mean trams in general, trams in Dublin or the red line specifically?

The Red Line specifically. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my mother going on it alone, I've seen things on my Red Line journeys that I wouldn't want her dealing with.