How have the Irish been affected by the crisis?

GizAGoOfYerGee

Would like to hear your stories about general hardship in Ireland since the crisis.

I had no choice but to sell everything in 2007 and move to Spain. I didn't have a word of Spanish and knew nobody, but 3 years on, I have assimilated myself into Spanish culture and have several close friends. Sadly, I don't think I will ever return to Ireland as I want to start a family in Spain with the lady. I feel that I am too old now to be of any use in Ireland, so it's best I say here.

Both my parents were forced to emigrate to America in the 70s, but moved back to Ireland, where I was born, and then my father had to emigrate to Germany in the 80s and worked there for 14 years in order to support his family. He had no job prospects in Ireland for his line of work.

My entire family tree are of emigrants, scattered around America and Argentina.

I was brought up in a relatively prospering Ireland, only to be forced out in 2007 because of the actions of Betie Ahern and Brian Cowen. I will never have a chance of a career in Ireland again at my age.

My two brothers emigrated to America in 2007 and my sister moved to Australia for work last year. All my siblings have met partners and will probably never return to Ireland again.

So yeah, I'm really pissed off about that to be honest. I feel as though I have lost my family and my home forever.

Tell your stories.

flash1080

What crisis?

B0X

Of all the places to pick you chose Spain? Where are you going to emigrate to once they go down the drain?

GizAGoOfYerGee

flash1080 wrote: »

What crisis?

Sorry, in Spain it's called the 'crisis'. I should have said recession.

enda1

Looks like you came from a big line of quitters to be honest.

I'm surprised you've lasted this long to be honest! The shops all out'a razor blades?

<I emigrated too, but before the crises;)>

GizAGoOfYerGee

B0X wrote: »

Of all the places to pick you chose Spain? Where are you going to emigrate to once they go down the drain?

Because the cost of living here is half compared to Ireland. Also, I bought my own property here at a bargain and I am financially stable at present.

Motley Crue

I left in 2008, just finished college, and walked onto a flight to Edinburgh. Knew a few people in the city and I think I only intended it to be an extended holiday but found a job and never came back. I travelled light and bought a few clothes in Scotland so never needed to take boxes of stuff with me.

Earlier this year I moved again to North East England, although that was more for reasons of love, since the most relevant job I had in Scotland wasn't going to make me a millionaire (it wasn't even paying the rent) and now I'm working again in Newcastle (although still not a millionaire) and doing my best. But, I'll tell you something, from what my parents and the papers say it's the best place for me.

I'm young, I'll move again for sure, but I'm sorry to hear of anyone who has to uproot after a dedicated service of several decades.

My parents tried to move twice, to emigrate, once before I was born and once just after. Never really went according to plan and they came back home. My Mum missed her family and my Dad needed a better job. Facts of life. But I can see them retiring now in a few years to somewhere in the Sun.

FatherLen

the biggest way i have been affected by the crisis is i am so annoyed that people wont shut up about the crisis

scientific1982

What age are you OP.

FreudianSlippers

I chose other since I'm self-employed.

af_thefragile

I'm planing on fecking off to USA after I graduate.
Though it depends if I get a decent job in Dublin or not too far from Dublin (or even in Galway), I'll stay here. If I get a job in some far away place, I'm off to USA.

FreudianSlippers

af_thefragile wrote: »

I'm planing on fecking off to USA after I graduate.
Though it depends if I get a decent job in Dublin or not too far from Dublin (or even in Galway), I'll stay here. If I get a job in some far away place, I'm off to USA.

Good luck finding a job in the USA.

Minstrel27

I am currently earning more than what I was at the start of this recession.

Lumen

I never realised the mildly comedic value of "ex-Pat" before.

af_thefragile

OisinT wrote: »

Good luck finding a job in the USA.

Its gonna be difficult. But it all depends on how well I do in the exam I've got to do this summer. If I do good in the exam and get a good grade, I won't have much problem getting a job and should be able to get a decent job in a decent city like NY, LA or so. If I don't do good in the exam, I either won't get a job or I'll get it in some hick town which I'ld rather not take...

The next two years are pretty crucial for how my future plans out...

FreudianSlippers

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its gonna be difficult. But it all depends on how well I do in the exam I've got to do this summer. If I do good in the exam and get a good grade, I won't have much problem getting a job and should be able to get a decent job in a decent city like NY, LA or so. If I don't do good in the exam, I either won't get a job or I'll get it in some hick town which I'ld rather not take...

The next two years are pretty crucial for how my future plans out...

There are far less jobs and far greater competition in the US - especially cities like New York and Los Angeles than in Ireland at the moment... just so you're aware.

Quazzie

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its gonna be difficult. But it all depends on how well I do in the exam I've got to do this summer. If I do well in the exam and get a good grade, I won't have much problem getting a job and should be able to get a decent job in a decent city like NY, LA or so. If I don't do well in the exam, I either won't get a job or I'll get it in some hick town which I'ld rather not take...

The next two years are pretty crucial for how my future plans out...

FYP

af_thefragile

^Ah, its been atleast 6 years since I've studied english and the internet has also ruined my language. So yeah, I'll blame the internet for my poor grammar.

OisinT wrote: »

There are far less jobs and far greater competition in the US - especially cities like New York and Los Angeles than in Ireland at the moment... just so you're aware.

I have a decent chance. Maybe not NY or LA (because those cities are gonna be mad difficult to get a job in) but other decent cities which aren't in the middle of nowhere.

As I said, depends on what grade I get in the exam I've got to do this summer. Then I've got to give another two exams next summer but they aren't as difficult as the one this summer. And I've got to do a few electives and such, make up a strong CV by the time I graduate. I've got two years to get it all done.

So next two years are gonna be super busy and I've got to make full use of my time.



Wow, it just started raining like mad out my window here! Just thought I'ld mention it...

Thedogsgone

Pay down, mortgage down, the mrs lost her job (ironically in the public sector) so disposal income is long gone but we'll live.

Herself is in college now in an area which seems to be recruiting so hopefully we'll get to t'other side and be better off.

Forest Master

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I am currently earning more than what I was at the start of this recession.

Yeah me too. Self employed. When the recession started around Sep 2008, I started becoming less of a waster with money, so I made some monehtly savings by getting rid of unnecessary spending - then business picked up, so I'm approx 40% (based on net profit / personal drawings) better off now than I was during the "boom" years.

So I picked "other" in the poll, since the OP had difficulty with covering the basic scenarios.

Hmmm, kinda wondering if this goes in the "We don't want to know about the economy" super-lock thread, but it's fairlty civil so far.

But if people use this threadas an excuse to whine and moan, then ban-hammer them!

GizAGoOfYerGee

Forest Master wrote: »

Self employed.

I picked "other" in the poll, since the OP had difficulty with covering the basic scenarios.

Yeah, people like you. The exact pedantic Irish shi!te I'm glad to be no longer apart of.

Choose "Employed full time or part time". That covers 'the basic scenario' of anyone self-employed.

This is why I love Boards.

thebigbiffo

personally - i just wish the irish could get on with living (if that includes emigrating, so be it) instead of constantly whining about how they've been screwed by all and sundry.

i've started a thread here before about this. if you had to move from new york to south carolina for work ya wouldn't f'uckin bitch and moan about 'emigrating'. why do the irish constantly act like we're back in the coffin ships ffs.

red menace

My wife and I moved to Canada this year
Nothing forced us to move we both had jobs that were pretty stable
Just wanted a better standard of living I suppose, other than the -26 it's all been good so far

thebigbiffo

red menace wrote: »

My wife and I moved to Canada this year
Nothing forced us to move we both had jobs that were pretty stable
Just wanted a better standard of living I suppose, other than the -26 it's all been good so far

this is what i'm talking about. a huge proportion of people moving away aren't 'forced' to at all - it's a case of 'wait, here's an opportunity to go live i spain, the US, Oz. i'm outta her!'

HavingCrack

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its gonna be difficult. But it all depends on how well I do in the exam I've got to do this summer. If I do good in the exam and get a good grade, I won't have much problem getting a job and should be able to get a decent job in a decent city like NY, LA or so. If I don't do good in the exam, I either won't get a job or I'll get it in some hick town which I'ld rather not take...

The next two years are pretty crucial for how my future plans out...

Los Angeles = Decent city hmmmmmm :rolleyes:. Unless you're living in one of the coastal cities or in Pasadena the rest of the city is pretty ugly and quite dangerous in parts.

red menace wrote: »

My wife and I moved to Canada this year
Nothing forced us to move we both had jobs that were pretty stable
Just wanted a better standard of living I suppose, other than the -26 it's all been good so far

You don't hear of as many people emigrating through choice that much anymore.

af_thefragile

HavingCrack wrote: »

Los Angeles = Decent city hmmmmmm :rolleyes:. Unless you're living in one of the coastal cities or in Pasadena the rest of the city is pretty ugly and quite dangerous in parts.

By decent I meant not a hick town in the middle of nowhere...

ejmaztec

My parents emigrated to England years ago, because there was feck all for them here, and I decided to go against the grain and move here.

I'm fucked if I'm letting those useless fucking bastards in Leinster House force me to do the same as my parents did, and I'm here for the duration, just to cause the sh1ts as much misery as possible.

Lawros Tache

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I am currently earning more than what I was at the start of this recession.

Me too... Got myself a job in the Public Service.

homerjay2005

thankfully, so far (touch wood) the recession has not affected me. i still have the same job and same wages, though the levys have seen me lose money of course, but then things are alot cheaper now too, like rent, shopping etc etc. i travel alot too and flights and hotels are cheaper.

my job could last 10 years or 10 months, i dont know, so ill keep working away to my ability as much as i can and am trying to save a few quid every month also just incase i need it in the future.

so far so good, just going to be a bit more cost conscious with money in 2011 now and hope to save alot.

GizAGoOfYerGee

I want nothing more than to be living, working, and raising a family in Ireland. But I can't.

I was working happily in Ireland from 1996 to 2007. There are no opportunities for me in Ireland anymore. I was forced to emigrate.

I started this thread because I thought there might be other Irish people with similar stories.

I want to be in Ireland, but I know I can't be. A child of mine is due. I wanted it to be brought up in Ireland, but instead it will be Spanish. I am finding that a bit difficult to accept, to be honest.

There appears to me to be no people in this thread that can relate to my predicament. Yet, millions of our own people have been in the same situation.

smurgen

finshing off my masters at the moment.gona be done in the middle of February. Then i gota pay off my debt with a slew of crappy jobs.Plan to get to Australia to my friends a.s.a.p. A load of them left yesterday and I feel as if there's nothing here for me. Hope to make it to the rugby world cup in New Zealand in September for me friends birthday!would be unreal!