Your memory usage

Naikon · 14-01-2011 1:53am #1

This is inspired by the biggest file on your computer thread. As above, how is the memory usage on your machine right now?

For me:


             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          3023        866       2157          0         45        490
-/+ buffers/cache:        330       2692
Swap:         8996          0       8996

So realistically, 330 megs in use with Firefox, vlc movie player, xmms2, evince, a few gnome terminals, and various
gnome applets + desktop on i386 Ubuntu/Debian. Not counting plenty of background daemons and other essential stuff.

You?

karlog · 14-01-2011 1:58am

How the hell do you check memory usage?

TimeToShine · 14-01-2011 1:59am

herp derp me no understand

God... · 14-01-2011 1:59am

Get a life.

KeithM89_old · 14-01-2011 2:00am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fy1eTe3FPU

Naikon · 14-01-2011 2:00am

karlog wrote: »

How the hell do you check memory usage?

On Windows, hold down ctrl + alt + del and navigate to task manager. On Linux, free -m in the terminal should do the job.

TouchingVirus · 14-01-2011 2:01am

Naikon wrote: »

On WIndows, hold down ctrl + alt + del and navigate to task manager. On Linux, free -m in the terminal should do the job.

Ctrl+Shift+Escape works better on Windows

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 2:03am

1.3GBs on windows 7. A lot more than yours but I've used linux before and I'd gladly let windows use more resources instead of switching to linux. I fúcking hate linux.

KeithM89_old · 14-01-2011 2:04am

13.2 gb free :cool:
To check on a mac just open Activity monitor...

El Horseboxo · 14-01-2011 2:08am

Like who really gives a fúck about what memory is on someones computer or how big their largest file is. Fúcking hell creativity needs a reboot.

Naikon · 14-01-2011 2:09am

KeithM89 wrote: »

13.2 gb free :cool:
To check on a mac just open Activity monitor...

13.2 gigs. Do you work for NASA?:D

We only really need about 640k...

Tar.Aldarion · 14-01-2011 2:39am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

1.3GBs on windows 7. A lot more than yours but I've used linux before and I'd gladly let windows use more resources instead of switching to linux. I fúcking hate linux.

nobody can hate ubuntu, it's wondrous. Mmmm

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 2:40am

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

nobody can hate ubuntu, it's wondrous. Mmmm

Well it was xubuntu I was talking about and hate it with a passion I do.

MagicSean · 14-01-2011 2:42am

In after hours you expect some odd threads but this is just stupid.

Tar.Aldarion · 14-01-2011 2:44am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Well it was xubuntu I was talking about and hate it with a passion I do.

Even new ones? I hate the old ones. it's so hard to use windows after seeing the light, yet 7 is quite good. have that on 2 computers.

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 2:47am

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Even new ones? I hate the old ones. it's so hard to use windows after seeing the light, yet 7 is quite good. have that on 2 computers.

Well which ever one was released this time last year as that was when I was setting it up. Literally backing it up as I type so I change my server over to windows.

Dave147 · 14-01-2011 3:06am

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Ctrl+Shift+Escape works better on Windows

Where's the smug smiley when you need it!

Naikon · 14-01-2011 3:08am

Dave147 wrote: »

Where's the smug smiley when you need it!

Every object has it's uses...

get_d_hand_in · 14-01-2011 3:15am

2.4 GB . . . Windows Vista. Only have google chrome open

Tar.Aldarion · 14-01-2011 3:19am

Oh yes, 1.16gb of 3gb in windows 7

TouchingVirus · 14-01-2011 3:35am

Dave147 wrote: »

Where's the smug smiley when you need it!

I dunno, but I found the rolleyes one :rolleyes:

johnmcdnl · 14-01-2011 4:37am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

1.3GBs on windows 7. A lot more than yours but I've used linux before and I'd gladly let windows use more resources instead of switching to linux. I fúcking hate linux.

linux is faster and better laid out - add open source in and tell me what you don't like about it :rolleyes:

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 5:20am

johnmcdnl wrote: »

linux is faster and better laid out - add open source in and tell me what you don't like about it :rolleyes:

Where to start. Installing software that isn't in synaptic (is it synaptic that xubuntu uses?) is a pain, had to use apt-get in the terminal to install them. One has received a nice new update since I installed it, I couldn't find out how to update it though.

The other one is a vnc client. It stopped working properly after a while. After start up it would only let me use it once. The moment I disconnect I can't reconnect (a pain when you're using it as you don't have a monitor, keyboard and mouse connected to it). Tried sorting it but couldn't figure it out.

If I wanted to add another drive to it (which I did occasionally to copy files onto drives as it's faster than through the network) it meant terminal time to create a mount point and then mount the drive. I had to edit the permissions to let me write to the drive on some occasions though. Read/write support for NTFS partitions is very handy though, I'll give it that.

One of my drives won't auto-mount at startup either. Don't know why. I add it to my fstab just like all the other drives yet it won't mount. If I then try to mount it I get told it's already mounted. I check the mount point where fstab says it is and it isn't there. If I remove the entry from fstab, re-start and mount it manually using the terminal it mounts fine. That's also a pain when you're using it as a headless server and the server powers off for what ever reason.

Also my taskbars (not sure what they're called in xubuntu but it's the bars at the top and bottom of the screen) disappeared a while ago. No idea how. I tried checking out how to fix it but found nothing. Luckily you don't really need them.

That's only some of the problems I've had, there was more but I can't remember or suppressed the memories (don't worry I'll update the thread in a few years when I fall to ground, assume the fetal position and have a nam style flashback

).

Edit: Forgot about this. I had to get java and real media (or windows media can't remember) streaming working on an acer netbook that was running linux. The built in java software wasn't the latest version so some of the sites this person used wouldn't work in it properly. I got that working eventually. As for the streaming, I never got it to work 100% but I managed to get it to kinda work which was good enough for the person using it. I'm pretty sure acer's distro was meant to be a ball of shít though so that probably didn't help matters.

Don't get me wrong here I like FOSS, I make use of FOSS everyday and some of it is fantastic. Linux's lower hardware requirements is the reason why I put it on my file server (it was originally running a single core athlon 64 with 1GB ram, it's been using a dual core with 4GBs for a while now though). So I get why you guys prefer linux to windows but in my experience it's been nothing but a pain in the ass to use hence why I'll be glad it's off my server. I have a few windows based pcs and I'm essentially tech support for my extended family and friends and in the past year this one linux based pc has caused me more head aches than all the windows based pcs I've looked at this year.

Naikon · 14-01-2011 7:48am

The last thing this thread needs is an e penis comparison. Both OS's are pretty decent and offer services/features the other does not. NT is advanced in it's own right, due to the hybrid kernel and finer grained permissions for instance. SImple rwx permissions won't cut it for a server at times, where finer grained access control is required. Technically, Windows has a more advanced ACL system by default. 3D support in general better in general as well. ATI can be ropey Linux, and Nvidia won't open source their driver.

Besides, who needs to choose? Just slap both on your machine if you want. Nobody is stopping you from doing this. Apple/jobs on the other hand... Windows 7 isn't a bad OS and is a lot nicer to work with over Vista. Even has powershell scripting which is object oriented in nature. This is advanced imo. Windows isn't a niche OS. As regards memory, perhaps windows is doing more under the hood at all times. You can't really directly compare Windows and Linux, they are not the same at all from a technical perspective. A direct comparison of Linux and Unix is a bit fairer imo.

http://xahlee.org/mswin/file_perm_systems.html

14-01-2011 8:45am

free space: 4.14 gb
total space: 4 TB

mm
we run out of space on that one regularly
that's just the shared drive at work though, one of them, I duno about the actual machine

Naikon · 14-01-2011 9:21am

bluewolf wrote: »

free space: 4.14 gb
total space: 4 TB

mm
we run out of space on that one regularly
that's just the shared drive at work though, one of them, I duno about the actual machine

Lets not forget the contents of the typical employees "Work" folder. I find you use space more when you have a larger drive, simply because you feel the will to fill it up. Bought a 1TB drive recently, and it's already full. Solution, I need 4TB of disk space.

14-01-2011 9:48am

Naikon wrote: »

Lets not forget the contents of the typical employees "Work" folder. I find you use space more when you have a larger drive, simply because you feel the will to fill it up. Bought a 1TB drive recently, and it's already full. Solution, I need 4TB of disk space.

Nah, it really is all work stuff and there really is no way around it.
At least we've stopped using so many bags of paper files :rolleyes:

enda1 · 14-01-2011 10:02am

31.5gb free on my workstation

Vicxas · 14-01-2011 10:29am

Im on my work pc so i dont even wanna know...

CrazyRabbit · 14-01-2011 1:12pm

I have 75 grammes of free memory.

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 5:10pm

Naikon wrote: »

The last thing this thread needs is an e penis comparison. Both OS's are pretty decent and offer services/features the other does not. NT is advanced in it's own right, due to the hybrid kernel and finer grained permissions for instance. SImple rwx permissions won't cut it for a server at times, where finer grained access control is required. Technically, Windows has a more advanced ACL system by default. 3D support in general better in general as well. ATI can be ropey Linux, and Nvidia won't open source their driver.

Besides, who needs to choose? Just slap both on your machine if you want. Nobody is stopping you from doing this. Apple/jobs on the other hand... Windows 7 isn't a bad OS and is a lot nicer to work with over Vista. Even has powershell scripting which is object oriented in nature. This is advanced imo. Windows isn't a niche OS. As regards memory, perhaps windows is doing more under the hood at all times. You can't really directly compare Windows and Linux, they are not the same at all from a technical perspective. A direct comparison of Linux and Unix is a bit fairer imo.

http://xahlee.org/mswin/file_perm_systems.html

ACL has it's own problems though. Have you ever had to take ownership of a drive in windows before(e.g. the computer is buggered so you connect the hard drive up to another pc to copy all the data off it)? It can be a real pain as the ownership process can take a long time.

Mr Benevolent · 14-01-2011 6:01pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Where to start.

Can you recommend a easy-to use distro for a lifelong Windows user? I work in IT but have never touched Linux and just realised that I have enough bits to make another computer.

Oh, and 2.2Gb free. That TaskMan shortcut is great!

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2011 6:04pm

Confab wrote: »

Can you recommend a easy-to use distro for a lifelong Windows user? I work in IT but have never touched Linux and just realised that I have enough bits to make another computer.

Oh, and 2.2Gb free.

I've heard good things about linux mint but then again I also heard good things about xubuntu.

dvpower · 14-01-2011 6:27pm

karlog wrote: »

How the hell do you check memory usage?

I can't remember.

Procasinator · 14-01-2011 6:51pm

Confab wrote: »

Can you recommend a easy-to use distro for a lifelong Windows user? I work in IT but have never touched Linux and just realised that I have enough bits to make another computer.

Oh, and 2.2Gb free. That TaskMan shortcut is great!

I'd recommend the standard Ubuntu distribution. It's the mostly widely used consumer/desktop linux distro, and has great support forums.

Odaise Gaelach · 14-01-2011 7:21pm

Windows 7, 32-bit

Physical: 2047 MB
Cached: 849
Available: 831
Free: 11

The machine's four-and-a-half years old but still running quite nicely. It's probably time for an upgrade though.

For the record, my only real experience of Linux was with Suse. I was permanently put off by it when, while installing the OS, it dumped me into a text editor and told me to configure GRUB.

partyatmygaff · 14-01-2011 7:27pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Windows 7, 32-bit

Physical: 2047 MB
Cached: 849
Available: 831
Free: 11

The machine's four-and-a-half years old but still running quite nicely. It's probably time for an upgrade though.

For the record, my only real experience of Linux was with Suse. I was permanently put off by it when, while installing the OS, it dumped me into a text editor and told me to configure GRUB.

Suse is an enterprise Linux distro, why would you use it on a home computer? Ubuntu is the de facto standard home Linux distro. Some people swear by Gentoo and other Linux distros but you haven't tried Linux until you've tried Ubuntu!

Odaise Gaelach · 14-01-2011 7:36pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Suse is an enterprise Linux distro, why would you use it on a home computer? Ubuntu is the de facto standard home Linux distro. Some people swear by Gentoo and other Linux distros but you haven't tried Linux until you've tried Ubuntu!

It said it was for desktop use, so I gave it a go.

partyatmygaff · 14-01-2011 7:44pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

It said it was for desktop use, so I gave it a go.

For desktop use in a business environment. Business don't only consist of servers you know!

Odaise Gaelach · 14-01-2011 8:03pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

For desktop use in a business environment. Business don't only consist of servers you know!

Seems like an awful lot of hassle to go through just for typing documents!

anniehoo · 14-01-2011 8:08pm

Physical Memory (MB)
Total 1789
Cached 1009
Free 26

How do i create more memory? I clear my cache, run C Cleaner all the time and have transferred all photos to an external drive. Whys the free memory so low?

macquarie · 14-01-2011 8:14pm

How do threads about wiping your arse get sent to the recycle bin, but threads like this get left open ? Madness.

kowloon · 14-01-2011 8:21pm

Have 24 gigs on my i7 but 4gb keep kicking in and out, am told it is a common problem when the board is stressed by the water cooler back plate.
It doesn't matter anyway because I mananged to free 8gb of hidden memory by deleting a folder called system32 which eats up system resources.
It's been plain sailing since then.

partyatmygaff · 14-01-2011 8:29pm

anniehoo wrote: »

Physical Memory (MB)
Total 1789
Cached 1009
Free 26

How do i create more memory? I clear my cache, run C Cleaner all the time and have transferred all photos to an external drive. Whys the free memory so low?

When they refer to physical memory they refer to RAM which is not the same as storage space.

To put it very simply

Say you run Firefox.exe

1. Firefox.exe is stored on your hard drive (Or SSD if you're so inclined

).

2. When you start Firefox it moves its code from the hard drive to RAM (Physical memory)

3. The RAM stores the code for Firefox and awaits its turn to be processed by the processor

4. The code is then sent to the processor's cache which is a very small but very fast storage area for the processor. This is where the most immediate code to be executed is stored.

5. The code is then executed by the processor and the output of the program (Firefox in this example) is displayed on your monitor.

The reason for this Hard drive -> RAM -> Cache transfer of code is because a modern processor is capable of executing code far faster than what the typical hard drive can send to it. This is why it needs a chain of 'buffers' to provide it with a ready supply of instructions to process.

You'll notice as you go from Hard Drive to Cache that the amount of storage space rapidly falls. This is due to the fact that generally speaking the smaller a storage device the faster it is capable of being.

Before anyone jumps in making a list of corrections rest assured I know that my explanation above is oversimplified

Dyr · 14-01-2011 8:37pm

Naikon wrote: »

The last thing this thread needs is an e penis comparison. Both OS's are pretty decent and offer services/features the other does not. NT is advanced in it's own right, due to the hybrid kernel and finer grained permissions for instance. SImple rwx permissions won't cut it for a server at times, where finer grained access control is required. Technically, Windows has a more advanced ACL system by default. 3D support in general better in general as well. ATI can be ropey Linux, and Nvidia won't open source their driver.

Besides, who needs to choose? Just slap both on your machine if you want. Nobody is stopping you from doing this. Apple/jobs on the other hand... Windows 7 isn't a bad OS and is a lot nicer to work with over Vista. Even has powershell scripting which is object oriented in nature. This is advanced imo. Windows isn't a niche OS. As regards memory, perhaps windows is doing more under the hood at all times. You can't really directly compare Windows and Linux, they are not the same at all from a technical perspective. A direct comparison of Linux and Unix is a bit fairer imo.

http://xahlee.org/mswin/file_perm_systems.html

I have XP, 7 and ubuntu on my pc and i can't remember when I last booted into ubuntu..can't play games so f**k that. Also, running linux is like having some beatnik student constantly judging you, giving me snotty error messages about my files requiring propriety software to play blah blah...can it preachy :mad:

Nice interface though, shame that poor gnome is prone to s***ting itself though, its like linux only does GUI's grudgingly as a sop to the great unwashed :pac:

Capt'n Midnight · 14-01-2011 9:24pm

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naughto · 14-01-2011 10:14pm

list

phill106 · 14-01-2011 10:25pm

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
4 gigs, 1.3gb in use just by os av and firefox
Laptop is 2 years old so happy enough
I do wipe it regularly though
Had tried ubuntu, but had some windows apps that wouldnt run in wine, so had to run virtual box to run a virtual win 7 inside my ubuntu.
Seemed a waste, so back to 7!

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