WHY do penalty points take so long to be activated??

Seanieke

I'll start off by explaining this is more of a rant than a question, but replys welcome!

I'm probably the only person in Ireland wishing to get penalty points. I got noticed driving above the speed limit back in November, the 20th. I got a letter out from the good people at the RSA to confirm this & to tell me that as of February 7th 2011 I'll have 2 points.

Now why aren't these points from November 20th 2010, as these last for 3 years I'll be stuck with them for an extra 4 months?!

And if it's an issue with being "under staffed" surely taking the time to sit down & write a letter saying I wont recieve said points until February would be better spent applying the points once I own up & pay the fine??

Ahhhhhh...... :rolleyes:

lau1247

Seanieke wrote: »

Now why aren't these points from November 20th 2010, as these last for 3 years I'll be stuck with them for an extra 4 months?

you won't be stuck with them for extra 4 months.. 3 years is 3 years, you're not losing out.. as of the period between november and february, you're free of any points

Seanieke

lau1247 wrote: »

you won't be stuck with them for extra 4 months.. 3 years is 3 years, you're not losing out.. as of the period between november and february, you're free of any points

Thanks but you've kinda missed my point. I know I dont have them for 4 extra months, I'm asking why aren't they activated on the day. So in Noverember 2013 I get a letter saying I'm points free, rather than February 2014...

PaulKK

Seanieke wrote: »

Thanks but you've kinda missed my point. I know I dont have them for 4 extra months, I'm asking why aren't they activated on the day. So in Noverember 2013 I get a letter saying I'm points free, rather than February 2014...

Because after you pay your fine, one government dept needs to communicate with another, I'm sure theres a backlog that needs to be worked through :pac:

melekalikimaka

Seanieke wrote: »

Thanks but you've kinda missed my point. I know I dont have them for 4 extra months, I'm asking why aren't they activated on the day. So in Noverember 2013 I get a letter saying I'm points free, rather than February 2014...

yes... why are you complaining about this? its a good thing.

Skuxx

So if lik the OP I got cought in November and points weren't applied till Feburary, could I renew my insurance in janurary and say I've no points even though I know there coming??

superfish

ok this is probably a silly question and before I ask id just like to state ive a full clean licence never had any points been on the road 10 year too . now for the silly bit, if you get points on your licence how do insurance companies know if you dont tell them as ive never been asked by any insurance company to see my license do they just trust that people with points will just tell them ?

Seanieke

melekalikimaka wrote: »

yes... why are you complaining about this? its a good thing.

How is that? Maybe I'm missing something but my insurance will be pushed up until 2014 instead of 2013....??? Any job I apply for I will have to disclose points to until 2014 instead of 2013....

Seanieke

superfish wrote: »

if you get points on your licence how do insurance companies know if you dont tell them as ive never been asked by any insurance company to see my license do they just trust that people with points will just tell them ?

If you've a company car they usually do a check, & they know exactly when you've been speeding, they get the fine in the post!

Guy:Incognito

Seanieke wrote: »

Thanks but you've kinda missed my point. I know I dont have them for 4 extra months, I'm asking why aren't they activated on the day. So in Noverember 2013 I get a letter saying I'm points free, rather than February 2014...

If you appeal them or nominate another driver after recieving the fine and points they would then have to go back and take the points off that were added in error. Plus if it took 3 or 4 months to sort it out all the way through and they were backdated to the offence, you would have gotten away with them for that 3 or 4 months because they wouldnt really have been added till it was sorted.

Seanieke

alan1990 wrote: »

So if lik the OP I got cought in November and points weren't applied till Feburary, could I renew my insurance in janurary and say I've no points even though I know there coming??

That's a point & a half there!! Because technically you dont!! Well until feb..

Seanieke

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If you appeal them or nominate another driver after recieving the fine and points they would then have to go back and take the points off that were added in error. Plus if it took 3 or 4 months to sort it out all the way through and they were backdated to the offence, you would have gotten away with them for that 3 or 4 months because they wouldnt really have been added till it was sorted.

No there was no appeal, fine was received at 10am, cheque for the fine & my details were in the post by lunch time

Forest Master

melekalikimaka wrote: »

yes... why are you complaining about this? its a good thing.

^^ melekalikimaka misread the post.

uracucksucker

Seanieke wrote: »

Thanks but you've kinda missed my point. I know I dont have them for 4 extra months, I'm asking why aren't they activated on the day. So in Noverember 2013 I get a letter saying I'm points free, rather than February 2014...

yeah i was caught speedin last night,doing 100 kph in a 80 kph zone and i wud hope dat wen i get my 2 penalty points dat dey start from d day i got caught not 4 or 5 months down d line..now dat i have dem,jus want t get dem off my record asap..

Guy:Incognito

Seanieke wrote: »

No there was no appeal, fine was received at 10am, cheque for the fine & my details were in the post by lunch time

Yes, but the option to appeal or nominate other drivers is there. I was talking generally rather than your case specifically.

uracucksucker wrote: »

yeah i was caught speedin last night,doing 100 kph in a 80 kph zone and i wud hope dat wen i get my 2 penalty points dat dey start from d day i got caught not 4 or 5 months down d line..now dat i have dem,jus want t get dem off my record asap..

Will you be ringing your insurance company in the morning to tell them about these new points? Or if your renewal was tomorrow would you get them to quote you wth the points added on?

Seanieke

Seanieke wrote: »

If you've a company car they usually do a check, & they know exactly when you've been speeding, they get the fine in the post!

The insurance company gets the fine in the post?

Forest Master

RoverJames wrote: »

The insurance company gets the fine in the post?

Read the post before you reply next time. If it's a COPMPANY car, the COMPANY gets the fine in the post, because it's in their name.

Forest Master

Forest Master wrote: »

Read the post before you reply next time. If it's a COPMPANY car, the COMPANY gets the fine in the post, because it's in their name.

I did read the post thanks, did you?

this chap wrote the following

superfish wrote: »

ok this is probably a silly question and before I ask id just like to state ive a full clean licence never had any points been on the road 10 year too . now for the silly bit, if you get points on your licence how do insurance companies know if you dont tell them as ive never been asked by any insurance company to see my license do they just trust that people with points will just tell them ?

he is asking how do insurance companies know that you have points on your license if you don't tell them? No mention of company car

then this chap wrote the following

Seanieke wrote: »

If you've a company car they usually do a check, & they know exactly when you've been speeding, they get the fine in the post!

saying "they" usually do a check.

Now how that is relevent to the asked question I don't know. You'd want to lose that attitude really too by the way

uracucksucker

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Yes, but the option to appeal or nominate other drivers is there. I was talking generally rather than your case specifically.



Will you be ringing your insurance company in the morning to tell them about these new points? Or if your renewal was tomorrow would you get them to quote you wth the points added on?

yeah my insurance happens to be up for renewal on d 26th of dis month,im expecting d fine to come now in nxt week r so..i dont no whether to ring dem and tell dem r not..a few people have told me jus not to bother tell dem but im not sure myself,,i dont know d consequences of dis so i will probably inform dem..is it easy for insurance companys to check if u have points and wud 2 penalty point affect ur insurance premium much..

slimjimmc

Any Text Speak to English translators about?

JOSman

Here's the kicker, don't tell them and pay the lower insurance bill but if your in an accident your insurance will be voided. In other words you have no cover.

Another point, why did they decide to leave the points on for three years. It's a very long time. Remember you've paid a fine also.

-Chris-

Please don't txt spk. Read the Charter before posting again. Thanks.