Discovery/ Hd at 2100L Cactus 1549

donkey balls

Just flicking through the TV and saw an advert for a docommentry on flight 1549 with Capt Sullenberg taking what looks to be a chopper ride over the Hudson it's on tonight at 2100L.

CabanasBoy

I got a book at crimbo called "Fly by wire" by William Langewiesche (very knowledgeable aviation author) about the ditching, highly recommend it. The author hints that the safe glide and ditching would not have been possible in any other aircraft bar an Airbus due to the level of automation built in to the 'Bus. He also wonders why Sully never made any reference during press conferences to the 320's wonderful behaviour during the crisis and puts it down to the fact that a lot of pilots disliked the Airbus's because of the levels of automation (the author referred to the 'bus as "semi robotic"). I would advise anybody to read the book.

donkey balls

Ah sure you have sayings like Scarebus and If it's not a Boeing im not going and my favorite im going like a Boeing when asked how the workload is going.

CabanasBoy

Yep, management in Boeing laughed when the A300 was launched way back when, they ain't laughing anymore.

A320

Well there is for and against on both from a maintenance point of view!!

Any avionic/electrical stuff in the airbus pax cabin for example is a nightmare, boeing is more basic and better!! The Airbus cabin,i could write a book on,its ridiculous.

PapaQuebec

Saw trails for the prog and wondered why Capt. Sullenberger is referred to as "Capt. SCULLY"??? Anyone else notice this?

electric69

Saw trails for the prog and wondered why Capt. Sullenberger is referred to as "Capt. SCULLY"??? Anyone else notice this?

What you heard was Capt. Sully. Its his nickname.

pclancy

The A320 did perform well and kept itself from stalling but I wonder how a 737 would have performed in the same situation with a good pilot.

Sully knew the best glide speed and rate of descent to maintain on the way down and then judged his flare very well in the final few seconds...wouldn't a good boeing crew be able to do the same? An airbus will keep itself within the enveliope without stalling perhaps better then a boeing would but surely good airmanship would give you just as good a chance? Am I right in saying it would have involved a lot more manual calculations of the correct Vref and rate of descent whereas an airbus would work it out itself and keep the aircraft from stalling no matter what the stick position?

Would be interesting to have someone in a 737 simulator try the same situation.

Danbo!

This is being repeated on discovery now, 15 mins in, for anyone that missed it.

phonypony

electric69 wrote: »

What you heard was Capt. Sully. Its his nickname.

In the Promos for the show they referred to him in text and voiceover as 'Scully' and before the show aired they called him 'Chelsey'...

I emailed Discovery about the promo over Xmas, they didn't care to respond, I guess they just dropped the ball on that one

CabanasBoy

pclancy wrote: »

The A320 did perform well and kept itself from stalling but I wonder how a 737 would have performed in the same situation with a good pilot.

Sully knew the best glide speed and rate of descent to maintain on the way down and then judged his flare very well in the final few seconds...wouldn't a good boeing crew be able to do the same? An airbus will keep itself within the enveliope without stalling perhaps better then a boeing would but surely good airmanship would give you just as good a chance? Am I right in saying it would have involved a lot more manual calculations of the correct Vref and rate of descent whereas an airbus would work it out itself and keep the aircraft from stalling no matter what the stick position?

Would be interesting to have someone in a 737 simulator try the same situation.

Maybe from a greater altitude (more time for pilots to react/calculate etc) a good crew could probably glide a Boeing in.

From the altitude flt 1549 was at it was the 320's automation which made the day by doing the basic stuff of keeping the plane flying whilst allowing the crew get on with dealing with the emergency.

PapaQuebec

electric69 wrote: »

What you heard was Capt. Sully. Its his nickname.

It wasn't spoken as "Scully", it was spelt in the graphic-overlay as "Scully"!!
I'm well aware of the Capt's nickname. I've since downloaded and watched the doc from a US website where it was entitled "Brace for Impact" with a different intro-graphic.

I saw the ad for the Discovery show several times and wasn't mistaken!