Converting a passenger Pajero into commercial?

antomorro-sei

Hi all,

Just a quick question with regards whats in the title. My Dad is looking at buying a Pajero, which has to be commercial. Says he doesn't mind if its passenger vehicle as long as the costs to convert them and make it officially "commercial" don't cost too much, and that your actually allowed to do it, and then tax it as commercial.

Cheers for the help,
Anto

mrbig73

he's wasting his time doing this! Check out the difference in prices between COmmericial and Passenger cars/jeeps and you will see why. From my understanding, a commercial jeep comes into Ireland with seats & windows included. The importer (ie Mitsu) then convert it into a commericial and claim the VRT back or dont pay the VRT, thus saving about €20k.

Im not sure if its possible to convert yourself, then claim the VRT back, but would think its so much easier and painfree buying one that has already been converted and you aren't paying VRT on!

antomorro-sei

Cheers, so I'll just tell him to go and buy a commercial one already and save himself the hassle/time of converting a passenger one?

mrbig73

YEP!:D

doctorchopper

If he does find a passenger one that he likes, it can be converted, takes a bit of time though. Seats and seat belts need to be removed. Seat belt mounting points need to welded (not expoxyed over). A sheet of steel has to be welded in the back and must come all the way to the back of the front seets (rear passenger footwell must be covered). if its a 4 door jeep the rear windows must be de activated and covered (my windows are carpeted over some inspectors requrie a metal covering). So its simple enough to do the conversion, once that is done you need a weight docet, go to your local roadstone and ask them to weight the jeep, cost about 50 euro. Then you need to get the doe done, they will want to see the weight docet. download form rf111 fill it out and take all paperwork to tax office. A inspector will want to see the jeep to make sure that it is converted properly. Fairly easy i just did this last year. Most commercial jeeps are priced cheaper than passenger, but passenger jeeps seem to be better looked after(not worked to death) that is why i bought mine.

antomorro-sei

doctorchopper wrote: »

If he does find a passenger one that he likes, it can be converted, takes a bit of time though. Seats and seat belts need to be removed. Seat belt mounting points need to welded (not expoxyed over). A sheet of steel has to be welded in the back and must come all the way to the back of the front seets (rear passenger footwell must be covered). if its a 4 door jeep the rear windows must be de activated and covered (my windows are carpeted over some inspectors requrie a metal covering). So its simple enough to do the conversion, once that is done you need a weight docet, go to your local roadstone and ask them to weight the jeep, cost about 50 euro. Then you need to get the doe done, they will want to see the weight docet. download form rf111 fill it out and take all paperwork to tax office. A inspector will want to see the jeep to make sure that it is converted properly. Fairly easy i just did this last year. Most commercial jeeps are priced cheaper than passenger, but passenger jeeps seem to be better looked after(not worked to death) that is why i bought mine.

Thanks man. Well, doesn't seem that hard now considering my uncle (Dad's bro) owns a garage and he works in a landfill site that already has a weighbridge so he could use that.

Just wondering, who are the inspectors, VRT/tax people?

doctorchopper

It depends, if you are bringing in the jeep from england or outside ROI then it will be an inspector at the nct office(the vro vehicle registration office used to do it but now the contract to the nct office) if the jeep is already registered in ireland (ROI) then your local tax office will inspect it. You won't be able to claim back any VRT or tax, but if it still has tax on it they will re issue a tax disc with a experiry date that matched the old tax disc. Thats perfect that your uncle owns a landfill site with weight bridge, so basically all it will cost is the price of a sheet of metal and a bit of time. The tax man wasn't too interested in the welding of the floor sheet but if you are bringing it in from england they will want to see that it is seem welded the full length of the sheet so it can not be removed this is so you can get the lower vrt rate

101sean

I'd definitely check the latest rules, VRT rates are changing and new commercials have to be factory built and not a post production conversion under EU rules the government are using as an excuse. How this applies to S/H imports i don't know.

dgt

Im going to be rude and butt in...

Im in the process of converting my car to a van but keeping the tax private (€310 vs €288 its not worth it as I lose my ncb if I go commercial) what implications am I looking at?

colm_mcm

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055774210

Here's one I made earlier. Purely because there were no commercial lwb 2.8 manuals that weren't scrap available.

antomorro-sei

colm_mcm wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055774210

Here's one I made earlier. Purely because there were no commercial lwb 2.8 manuals that weren't scrap available.

Cheers for that colm. The one he wants is a swb but sure, wouldn't make that much of a difference!