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Toning b/w images...

  • 11-01-2011 10:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭


    Hello all,

    Just wondering if anyone else has been in the same boat but have you ever looked at a monochrome image in a magazine and wondered what kind of toning the photographer used on the b/w image?

    I used to do sepia and then switched to true black and white, finding that sepia has limited application IMO.

    So I was missing around with toning in Lightroom and I came up with a tone that I'm happy with. It's basically a hue value of 52 and saturation set to 20.
    Not saying this is anything special but I like it :)

    Does anyone have any toning secrets you'd like to share? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭ditpaintball


    I find that it depends on the images. Some images can get away with a hit of a tone where as others look better in a pure high contrast black and white.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I created a preset in LR3 that is basically all saturation sliders set to 0. I can change the tone and contrast of each colour still, using the luminance sliders as well as all other controls still available, unlike straight grey-scaling. I usually take the processed B&W from there to Cs5 and do a layer or two of high pass and some other minor tweaks I just prefer in Cs5. I like B&W nice and contrasty, anything but greyish and flat.

    I have a soft spot for Sepia tones and Aged photo look too though, but I know many people who have mixed feelings on those. I would offer them as options when processing images for others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dave_brent




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Heebie


    This would be very similar to what I use. usually around 49 with saturation of 10-15, although I usually do this in Photoshop. (The engines that do the work are probably identical, so they probably would look the same in eithe rone.)
    kelly1 wrote: »
    Hello all,
    So I was missing around with toning in Lightroom and I came up with a tone that I'm happy with. It's basically a hue value of 52 and saturation set to 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I often wonder on that, though both programs do things very differently, they're working from the same core. But, why then do I find the exposure adjustment brush so much better than the dodge & burn tools in PS? Even though the ones in PS offer more control!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    I love toying with the brightness/contrast after I convert. I burn and dodge a fair bit too. I use the colour sliders for the B&W conversion, but even after that the changes you can make in the image>adjustment bar amazes me.

    Can't imagine this is everyone's cuppa tea, but I love this effect I get:
    5349790691_41f76b17a0_z.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Thanks for the replies folks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭jaybeeveedub


    hate to be picky... but what you describe is tinting as opposed to toning...

    tinting applies the color to the whole image in the same way as a filter would...

    sepia tone only applies to areas where there is detail... this is especially noticeable in high contrast images...

    in a true sepia tone image the black faded to brown leaving the White areas White... as they were just paper colored ( of course the paper color could change too...)

    to achieve a true tone you need to apply a mask so the color change applies only to those areas of the print receiving ink... leaving the paper color for White areas...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Thanks J, sounds interesting. So would I create a mask from an inverted high contrast version of the image?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭jaybeeveedub


    yup something like that would be a good starting point....

    experiment with caluclations and see what you can come up with, then you can use levels on that and maybe a bit of blur if you're approaching it for a vintage sepia tone as there is usuallly uneven fading of old un-fast inks from black to brown....

    I'm pretty sure you'll be happier with the results, sepia tinted images always to my eye scream "showhouse apartment lifestlye shot"

    I cant even begin to count the number of "seaside dunes with bockety fence" in sepia tint I've seen when photgraphing showhouses


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