Rules

I.C.U

Played a game last night against gallops and in the first leg he finshed 129 but had 119 and the caller called game shot but i new he over scored and got the caller to check his score he worked it out that he did over score but still wanted to call game shot we replayed the leg after a bit but what is the rule was i not right to get the score checked because he over scored and it was not game shot

Double Top

your 100% right there, he bust his score and thats that the leg should of played on even if the caller called game shot they both go it wrong

stylie

Was 129 or 119 written down ? on one hand he has bust on the other he just went for what was written down

I.C.U

stylie wrote: »

Was 129 or 119 written down ? on one hand he has bust on the other he just went for what was written down

119 was on the board mate

mackeire

that crazy. The caller should have just admitted his mistake, said sorry, called out 'too many' and let the leg continue.

stylie

He is bust simple as and its your throw, no need to restart the game.I know a similar case where a caller called game shot after the player had wired the double, the player claimed the game and the delegates stood by him, happened to a poster here so hopefully he will see this and fill in any details I left out. Crazy decision to go on what the caller says as it invites the risk of cheating

wayne76

stylie wrote: »

He is bust simple as and its your throw, no need to restart the game.I know a similar case where a caller called game shot after the player had wired the double, the player claimed the game and the delegates stood by him, happened to a poster here so hopefully he will see this and fill in any details I left out. Crazy decision to go on what the caller says as it invites the risk of cheating

if i remember right the incident your refering to was involving enniskerry, i believe there was no dispute about the incident till about 12.30 2 hrs after the game

stylie

wayne76 wrote: »

if i remember right the incident your refering to was involving enniskerry, i believe there was no dispute about the incident till about 12.30 2 hrs after the game

Oh no my incident was a local'ish tournament in Cork...what happened in Enniskerry ? guy didnt hit a double but the caller called game shot ?

padr81

Only recent example was in the premier league. james wade sitting on 104 caller called 106 which wade took out. Caller called game shot and it stood.

If theres a caller and its finished Im pretty sure what was on the board doesn't matter

stylie

padr81 wrote: »

Only recent example was in the premier league. james wade sitting on 104 caller called 106 which wade took out. Caller called game shot and it stood.

If theres a caller and its finished Im pretty sure what was on the board doesn't matter

I think its a very bad rule, whats written on the board should stand(provided it too is correct) and if there is a mistake the darts should be re thrown provided the mistake is spotted before the opposing player throws or in the case of a wining double before the next game is started. Whats to stop a caller calling a slightly easier finish than whats on the board ?

padr81

stylie wrote: »

I think its a very bad rule, whats written on the board should stand(provided it too is correct) and if there is a mistake the darts should be re thrown provided the mistake is spotted before the opposing player throws or in the case of a wining double before the next game is started. Whats to stop a caller calling a slightly easier finish than whats on the board ?

Nothing but i'm sure they don't do it deliberate. If it was a home team caller and made a deliberate mistake for example called a 120 rather than 119 than i think there would be complaints.

I.C.U

Just to clear something up the caller called 119 but he finished 129 so i checked it what i wanted to know was why the caller said he was right to give him the leg just because he called game shot even though he said player in has 119 is there anyone i could ask who knows the rules inside out cause our caller thinks hes the dogs bollox with the rules and hes me DA

dionsiseire

In your case, he was called and written on board 119 and he hit 129, the game continues as it's the players fault for not hitting what was called and on the board

had the marker written 129 and caller obviously would called that and he finishes 129 but in actuality the caller made a mistake and he should have been on 129 then the game is over the player has won because you didn't query the score before his first dart went into the board, once his turn begins you cannot query back scores.

just thought i'd add this as a potential other question that may pop up out of it

padr81

I.C.U wrote: »

Just to clear something up the caller called 119 but he finished 129 so i checked it what i wanted to know was why the caller said he was right to give him the leg just because he called game shot even though he said player in has 119 is there anyone i could ask who knows the rules inside out cause our caller thinks hes the dogs bollox with the rules and hes me DA

than the caller is wrong.

DFD

If the caller called 119 and theplayer then hits 129,simple he busted the score,doesn't matter if he calls game shot,if you've pointed out to him that too many were scored he should have accepted his mistake and let you have your shot. if the scores were wiped off the board and you's had shook hands then copped it was wrong a few minutes later then its too late,but if you said it to john straightaway he should have went on with the game.thanks marc, i'm gonna give him some slagging when i see him lol.

D_murph

stylie wrote: »

He is bust simple as and its your throw, no need to restart the game.I know a similar case where a caller called game shot after the player had wired the double, the player claimed the game and the delegates stood by him, happened to a poster here so hopefully he will see this and fill in any details I left out. Crazy decision to go on what the caller says as it invites the risk of cheating

wayne76 wrote: »

if i remember right the incident your refering to was involving enniskerry, i believe there was no dispute about the incident till about 12.30 2 hrs after the game

stylie wrote: »

Oh no my incident was a local'ish tournament in Cork...what happened in Enniskerry ? guy didnt hit a double but the caller called game shot ?

That would have been me up in Vincents last year I reckon. Just to clear it up...

The opponent was on D8 and threw 3 darts at it and hit S8 with his third dart. The caller (who is a mate of mine actually and was gutted for the mistake afterwards) called game shot because he thought it was in from where he was standing. The other player called over the delegates and explained the situation and he was awarded the leg.

Load of $hit IMO. The other player missed the double and he still won the leg and I never got to throw for the double I was on because of someone else's mistake :rolleyes:. A situation that could be wide open to abuse if you were an unscrupulous type that had your mate calling the game for you although I doubt there would be many as dart players do tend to be mostly honest blokes from my experiences over the years.

I guess I met a bollox on that night :rolleyes:. Hope he went out next round 2-0 with no shot at a double for that :mad:.

It only cost me the second leg at the time to make it 1-1 in the first round (best of 3) and I was unaware that he had actually missed the double. I thought he had hit the thing and the caller had got it wrong so I played on and did not question the official decision at the time but the big pause, argument between him and the caller and controversy (namely having the delegates over etc) did cause a significant distraction at the time so I ended up playing like crap in the last leg and losing 2-1 afterwards .

I would be very interested in hearing the opinion of other players on this situation actually. Should he have been awarded the game or not and is there any rules for things like this when they (rarely) happen?

Kingp35

The caller has mistakenly called game shot plenty of times in League matches involving my team so far this season, everytime someone has pointed out the fact that it isn't game shot and we just get on with it.

Any player that takes a leg he hasn't actually won is a complete and utter coward and tbh I would just break myself laughing at him.

D_murph

Kingp35 wrote: »

The caller has mistakenly called game shot plenty of times in League matches involving my team so far this season, everytime someone has pointed out the fact that it isn't game shot and we just get on with it.

Any player that takes a leg he hasn't actually won is a complete and utter coward and tbh I would just break myself laughing at him.

Thats the way I look at it and did that night also after I found out the real story but the fact that the officials running it awarded the leg to him at the time was the biggest problem to me. A very bad call IMO and I cant still understand it. Apparently it was within the rules also .

My own fault really in a way as I didnt get involved enough to see what really happened. Last time that will happen :mad:.

The last thing you need in a darts match is an argument over scores etc and I decided at the time to keep out of it as it would have made me even more tense than I was at the time. The way I looked at it was, he either hit it or he didnt and a simple look should have done the trick but it didnt as it happened :rolleyes:.