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Rescued Pitbull...

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  • 10-01-2011 11:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭


    Hey folks,

    This was a story from a rescue in LA...did a quick check, didn't notice if it had been posted before...

    It's sad, but happy too...

    Have a look...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llHU6opxWDk


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  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭bullylover


    amazing story, amazing dog!
    I have a pit x and have to say luffly dogs! goes everywere with me:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Great video... quality wise as well as everything else.

    Poor dog.... these so called dangerous breeds in my opinion are the best sort of dogs to have, as long as they are not aggressive by nature.
    Rottweilers being the most obvious in my case. I don't own a dog because I am not home enough to keep one but I would probably get a rottie if I had the space. A staffie or put bull would be another good choice. They are very loyal and far less likely to bite than something like a Cocker Spaniel or Lab.

    In fact, beware the poodle as they will bite over anything, its just with a little dog like that there is no physical danger to anything but a small toddler/baby.

    Thanks for the link


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    I'm delighted the pitbull was rescued and is safe and happy in a forever home but I must say I cringed at how much physical contact they forced on the dog when she was so clearly really uncomfortable.

    All the hugging and kissing was entirely for their benefit and no good for the dog, never mind the danger of kissing a strange, very stressed, unsocialised dog on the nose!!!! Imagine if she had bitten the woman on the face? Immediate pts order, esp considering her breed and the lack of 2nd chances they get in matters of aggression. And then bringing her out onto the street and letting children and other adults pet her and approach her, no benefit to her at all and certainly not the way I deal with rescuing an unsocialised and frightened dog.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I believe it was made clear that this did not all happen in the time the video takes to watch? I believe there were a few hours involved.

    You have a point though but dogs are social animals and crave attention so the hugging etc is not entirely for their (the rescuers) benefit.

    I get the feeling you do rescue dogs? What would you have done out of curiosity?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    The initial hugging and kissing were done within 2 hours of approaching - stated in the video, and the scene of her with the kids has her wearing the same makeshift lead so it was all done within 2 - 3 hours of first approaching her, far too quickly in my book. She's panting profusely and that's a major sign of stress. If it was done over weeks that would be an entirely different matter but it wasn't


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    Saruman wrote: »
    You have a point though but dogs are social animals and crave attention so the hugging etc is not entirely for their (the rescuers) benefit.

    I get the feeling you do rescue dogs? What would you have done out of curiosity?

    EDIT - Sorry, mis-read your post, though you asked 'what have you done' (morto!)

    I'd have approached sideways while she was in the ditch so she didn't feel underpressure with me being face on, and like the man I would have tested to see how she felt about being physically touched. I wouldn't have touched her quite so much on top of the head while she was still so uncomfortable. I would have put a lead on her similar to how he did and taken as long as it took to bring her out of the ditch. But I wouldn't have kissed her, or hugged her or allowed anyone else to. When she was comfortable enough to bring her out to the street I would have put her straight into the car/transport and not let anyone else to pet her at all, especially kids - alot of dogs can be nervous with children because they move suddenly and make very loud sudden noises!! I just wouldn't have risked putting her in any position she could get over whelmed and snapped/bitten anyone because once that label is on a dog it's impossible to remove.

    Dogs learn to like hugging, it's not a natural behaviour for them as it's very restricting so to hug an unsocialised dog is not good for the dog, this dog was very clearly pulling backwards several times while the man was hugging her. Likewise kissing her on the nose, approaching a dog face to face is very confrontational in canine behaviour and could have caused her to snap out.

    But that's just my opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Thanks for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    EDIT - Sorry, mis-read your post, though you asked 'what have you done' (morto!)

    I'd have approached sideways while she was in the ditch so she didn't feel underpressure with me being face on, and like the man I would have tested to see how she felt about being physically touched. I wouldn't have touched her quite so much on top of the head while she was still so uncomfortable. I would have put a lead on her similar to how he did and taken as long as it took to bring her out of the ditch. But I wouldn't have kissed her, or hugged her or allowed anyone else to. When she was comfortable enough to bring her out to the street I would have put her straight into the car/transport and not let anyone else to pet her at all, especially kids - alot of dogs can be nervous with children because they move suddenly and make very loud sudden noises!! I just wouldn't have risked putting her in any position she could get over whelmed and snapped/bitten anyone because once that label is on a dog it's impossible to remove.

    Dogs learn to like hugging, it's not a natural behaviour for them as it's very restricting so to hug an unsocialised dog is not good for the dog, this dog was very clearly pulling backwards several times while the man was hugging her. Likewise kissing her on the nose, approaching a dog face to face is very confrontational in canine behaviour and could have caused her to snap out.

    But that's just my opinion.


    Have to say Toomanydogs, totally agree with you, whilst I was sobbing watching that (very hormonal today and thankfully not at work!!) there were obvious signs to me that dog was uncomfortable, a lot of licking her lips, very stiff body language, the hugging and even stroking the dog on top of her head, putting their face to hers, I would never advise doing that to a dog you weren't 100% sure of. However, she is a beautiful dog and they were very good people to rescue her and at least she is safe now so alls well that ends well as the saying goes!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭rabbit.84


    EDIT - Sorry, mis-read your post, though you asked 'what have you done' (morto!)

    I'd have approached sideways while she was in the ditch so she didn't feel underpressure with me being face on, and like the man I would have tested to see how she felt about being physically touched. I wouldn't have touched her quite so much on top of the head while she was still so uncomfortable. I would have put a lead on her similar to how he did and taken as long as it took to bring her out of the ditch. But I wouldn't have kissed her, or hugged her or allowed anyone else to. When she was comfortable enough to bring her out to the street I would have put her straight into the car/transport and not let anyone else to pet her at all, especially kids - alot of dogs can be nervous with children because they move suddenly and make very loud sudden noises!! I just wouldn't have risked putting her in any position she could get over whelmed and snapped/bitten anyone because once that label is on a dog it's impossible to remove.

    Dogs learn to like hugging, it's not a natural behaviour for them as it's very restricting so to hug an unsocialised dog is not good for the dog, this dog was very clearly pulling backwards several times while the man was hugging her. Likewise kissing her on the nose, approaching a dog face to face is very confrontational in canine behaviour and could have caused her to snap out.

    But that's just my opinion.

    totally agree.. it says the dogs was so fearful of men that 'she wimpers and runs away at the sound of a mans voice' but yet they have a man hugging her like its a person on the same day they found her! thats just crazy.


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