5200 Pentagon staff purchased child porn

Mr Plough

It's my understanding that about 30,000 people are employed at the pentagon. 5200 of those have purchased child porn using military emails. Of course this is not being properly investigated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFRdvbdUzw

sligopark

..... and people give out about the death penalty - despite the likes of FF and Michael Woods these human child predators need the death penalty - has such a search been done with Irish civil servant personel?

digme

that's 17.3% of employees at the pentagon,so around 1 in 5.8
Wtf is going on over there?

Mr. Loverman

I read about this. It's not really 5200 staff. It's 200 staff or something like that.

Obviously 200 child molesters is 200 too many child molesters, but it's better than 5200 of them...

digme

200 so either way,well said.

enno99

Cant think of a better blackmail threat if you want to cover up something like 911

Torakx

Check out the case of bush's administration (or him, cant remember,although he doubtfully would be mentioned anyway) giving tours to gay escorts in the whitehouse.
The story i think i picked it up first was related to a boy who was kidnapped and had his name changed gannon i think was the second name of the alias he used or maybe the original name.
Hang on il put it into google lol

yep...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

James Dale Guckert (born December 1, 1957) is a conservative columnist better known by the pseudonym Jeff Gannon. Between 2003 and 2005, he was given credentials as a White House reporter. He was eventually employed by the conservative website Talon News during the latter part of this period. Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered "so friendly it might have been planted."[1]
Gannon routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings, attending four Bush press conferences and appearing regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Gannon was given daily passes to White House press briefings "after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number."[2] Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[3][4] and his involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name "Bulldog."


So alot of strange activities goes on in those types of places.Same i hear in the scottish police and court systems etc etc
Havent been able to find a whole lot regarding the irish counterparts but i have heard scary things about common purpose and other orgs like this who take custody of orphaned kids.
I guess the screening needs to be done not only at the interview for employees but right up to and i would say especially those who are in control of these places.

So anyway 5200 cases of child porn being passed around doesnt suprise me at all..
Is there actually someone around here that is shocked? i really dont think so.Just more of the same news in another government establishment.

enno99

Saw a documentary on this before not great quality was pulled before it aired





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPKpP4XpGCM

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews2/boystown



http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews2/boystown/franklinarchive.htm

studiorat

Torakx wrote: »

Check out the case of bush's administration (or him, cant remember,although he doubtfully would be mentioned anyway) giving tours to gay escorts in the whitehouse.
The story i think i picked it up first was related to a boy who was kidnapped and had his name changed gannon i think was the second name of the alias he used or maybe the original name.
Hang on il put it into google lol

Out-****ing-standing Torakx, someone mentions child abuse and you go off on one about gay escorts. There was never any boy kidnapped, Gannon worked as a queer hooker before being a journalist. What has that got to do with child abuse?

Torakx

Im just saying and showing that there are alot of sexual shinanigans going on in the upper echelons of many governments.Its almost like a boys club i think sometimes in some countries.
The child porn obviously is gross and well worse, but still sexually orientated.
Plus gannons mother seems to think he was kidnapped as a kid and brainwashed to be a male escort after years of abuse.
Maybe true maybe not.And same for these other rumours.

steelcityblues

Good to remind people of the Franklin Scandal there!

The FBI, Local Law enforcement, and mainstream media organisations can also be considered as part of the 'ring of shame' for not bringing to these crimes to full attention.

Shudder to think what might be going on behind close doors today!

studiorat

Torakx wrote: »

Im just saying and showing that there are alot of sexual shinanigans going on in the upper echelons of many...

Sexual shenanigans? Down with this sort of thing!!!

What do you mean by sexual shenanigans? You are still comparing the two.
I really didn't think you'd be so hung up about homosexuality.

The conservatism here is palpable, "his mother thinks he was kidnapped" of course!! my son could never prefer the mickey he must have been kidnapped by Gay Zionist Lizards!!

Torakx

I was just relating the case i had been reading up on i think in 2009 around november.
As far as i know his mother still says he was kidnapped and abused as a kid and trained for his new lifestyle as a gay escort.
Maybe she is lying, i dont know for sure as you too probably.
But i thought it was relevant to child pornography and those who might watch it.Forgive me if child pornograpgy is that distant from child kidnapping and sexual abuse i presume sometimes both go hand in hand in extreme cases ussually involving workers in the government i suspect in many countries and orphanages.
I suppose we wouldnt want to accuse people involved in child pornography of actual child abuse or a want to commit it.We should wait till it happens and the kids 20 years later come forward at a rate probably of about 20% of the victims at a guess.

I guess i expect people to do some research so i dont have to post absolutly massive posts which will be skipped for too much content.I do that enough as it is lol

Ps. im not homophobic
When i lived with my last girlfriend i shared a house with her and a gay couple who were her friends.We got along very well and i even got a hug one time :P
I dont mind someone growing up normally and then deciding to be gay,that must have been there choice.

I do mind it when children are abused sexually,their innocence taken away and then they become gay as a result.As i have seen in a distant relative or two by the way.It happens trust me and resulted in an early death at 38 indirectly believe it or not.
But anyway i digress.This post wil fade away and in a few months someone else will accuse me of being homophobic and ignorant.

Brown Bomber

studiorat wrote: »

Sexual shenanigans? Down with this sort of thing!!!

What do you mean by sexual shenanigans? You are still comparing the two.
I really didn't think you'd be so hung up about homosexuality.

The conservatism here is palpable, "his mother thinks he was kidnapped" of course!! my son could never prefer the mickey he must have been kidnapped by Gay Zionist Lizards!!

"my son could never prefer the mickey he must have been kidnapped by Gay Zionist Lizards"

Total ignorance. :rolleyes:

His name was Johnny Gosch and he was kidnapped as a small child while on a paper round.

Google image search his name now and tell me he wasn't kidnapped ffs.

Brown Bomber

It was reported to me and given in Federal Court, February 1999, by Paul Bonacci, that "Michael Aquino ... called the "Colonel" was in fact the man who came to Iowa, paid the kidnappers for taking Johnny, then took Johnny with him. This took place 14 days after the kidnapping. Bonacci stated this under oath in Federal Court. Judge Urbom ruled Bonacci was telling the truth. [2005] Noreen Gosch Speaks About - Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch And The Attempted Theft Of Her Book 'Why Johnny Can't Come Home' By Charlene Fassa


Quote:
In 1989, 21 year old Paul Bonacci, a convicted child molester surfaces with a tale that is still spinning conspiracy theories today. While serving time in an Omaha, Neb. prison for molesting a young boy, Bonacci admitted to his psychiatrist he helped abduct Iowa newspaper boy Johnny Gosch. He claimed there was an organized ring of pedophiles in Omaha that abducts children and forces them into a life of pornography and prostitution and in some cases auctions off these children to clients for sex.



Bonacci, who suffers from a multiple personality disorder, had been a key witness in Ohmaha's Franklin Federal Credit Union bank scandal. He testified that Larry E. King, who was charged and convicted with embezzling $40 million from the bank, had wild sex parties at his home and Bonacci himself had sex with several prominent Omaha citizens who were there.



Larry E. King, was a major Republican fundraiser based in Omaha and sang the national anthem at both the 1984 and 1988 Republican conventions. Bonacci claimed that he and others were taken to the Republican convention in Dallas and also made numerous trips to King's Washington, DC apartment on Embassy Row where they were offered up for sex-for-pay with prominent Republican politicians.



Bonacci claims that this organized ring picked him up at the age of eight and forced him into prostitution. He says he was photographed, blackmailed and later forced to be a decoy to lure young boys, like Johnny, into waiting vehicles. Bonacci admits that he became a molester himself.
Bonacci's attorney, John DeCamp, phoned the Gosches with this story and the Gosch's private investigator Roy Stephens spent two years trying to disprove Bonacci's claims. Because Bonacci had been charged with perjury and perpetrating a hoax by the grand jury in the Franklin Credit scandal, neither the FBI nor the West Des Moines Police would even interview him about the Gosch case. They still feel he is an unreliable witness.


In the two years Roy Stephens investigated Bonacci, he went from skeptic to supporter, and some of Bonacci's story and the evidence Roy Stephens uncovered is compelling:
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=26170


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studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

"my son could never prefer the mickey he must have been kidnapped by Gay Zionist Lizards"

Total ignorance. :rolleyes:

His name was Johnny Gosch and he was kidnapped as a small child while on a paper round.

Google image search his name now and tell me he wasn't kidnapped ffs.

INFO WARS Photos combining the two men's faces are now posted on dozens of sites. Gosch's glossy, parted hair morphs into Gannon's bald head. Gosch's little-boy smile turns into Gannon's broad, tough-set jaw.

Ha ha. And added 13 years onto his age? You're really grabbing at straws now. Any real evidence at all?

ibid The Gannon-Gosch conspiracy theory first appeared on the message board of a liberal political site called The Democratic Underground on Feb. 26. A site regular, using the name TwoSparkles, speculated that Jeff Gannon was victimized by a government-organized child pornography ring.

Then he foreshadowed the future with this note: "I found this picture of Johnny Gosch. I looked at it and almost thought it looked like Gannon! It must be getting late." The image was a school picture of Gosch taken in the 1980s and later enhanced.

The same poster noted that Gannon/Guckert and Gosch had the same initials. Before long, other site members were trying to figure out whether the ages matched. (In fact, there would be more than 10 years' age difference between Gannon and Gosch.)

Full-blown details came from several popular Web conspiracy theorists. Self-styled political activist Sherman Skolnick, who analyzes political corruption with an evangelical tone, adopted Rense.com as his forum about the Gosch-Gannon/Guckert link.

Then the story was dropped into dozens of Web sites. Gosch case activist and Denver resident Ted White estimated he posted messages about the connection on 65 or 70 sites.

"I'm a member of over 80 Yahoo groups," he said. He fanned the rumor on the sites, spreading information he heard from private investigators on the Gosch case.

Bloggers picked up on the theory and soon the yarn was developing on hundreds of sites, many linked to one another. Entire blogs, or Web journals, are now devoted to the subject of whether Gosch grew up to become the disgraced reporter.

Interestingly though Hunter S. Thomson was the reporter on some of the related stories.

Torakx

Yep its still debateable and thats why its being discussed here
I could take either one on this situation.
Its an example of the type of stuff that is going on in geral relating to kidnappings and abuse.
Wether the whitehouse was involved we cant know for sure its been too long since the boy was taken.
Gannon appears to be a good fit.Identities can also be doctored/manufactured if you are the people creating them in the first place for every single person in your country.

The 200 plus people in the pentagon supposedly responsible for all this child pornography could well be doing more than just looking and if they were, the Gannon conspiracy would be a perfect example of the next steps in their evolution,possibly then blackmail and then total control by their superiors or outside groups looing for influence.
Maybe even a brotherhood with a cause.

studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Google image search his name now and tell me he wasn't kidnapped ffs.

If we use that method we could find Elvis. In fact my neighbour looks a bit like Elvis so it must be him!!! :pac:

Torakx

Can you get his autograph for me?

studiorat

He say's he's not. But we know better don't we;)

Mr Plough

Crazy CT forum :eek:

Lets not forget that 5200 pentagon staff downloaded CHILD porn.


Take it off topic again.......

studiorat

Mr Plough wrote: »

Crazy CT forum :eek:

Lets not forget that 5200 pentagon staff downloaded CHILD porn.


Take it off topic again.......

Oh new mod. welcome...

so how many have been charged already?

how many were outside contractors?

when did this happen?

Mr Plough

studiorat wrote: »

Oh new mod. welcome...

so how many have been charged already?

how many were outside contractors?

when did this happen?

Oh hi rat, it's you again..

For someone who admittedly despises conspiracy theorists, you sure hang around us like flies on ****e for a long while.. To answer your rat questions...

None have been charged, it is being hushed under the carpet, as expected.

0 were outside contractors. But if many were, you would feel like a winner.

It happened recently.

Why do you ask ? Oh, you are just worried about innocent people being accused of something they didn't do. Nothing to do with getting one over on the CT'rs'

studiorat

Mr Plough wrote: »

Oh hi rat, it's you again..

For someone who admittedly despises conspiracy theorists, you sure hang around us like flies on ****e for a long while.. To answer your rat questions...

None have been charged, it is being hushed under the carpet, as expected.

0 were outside contractors. But if many were, you would feel like a winner.

It happened recently.

Why do you ask ? Oh, you are just worried about innocent people being accused of something they didn't do. Nothing to do with getting one over on the CT'rs'

I love conspiracy theories, have done for a long time. I just haven't found very many that turned out to be true. Troothers are a bunch of wank3rs though.

Anyway, for the sake of accuracy. The story appeared in the Guardian Newspaper about a year ago. It seems it only have appeared on the Above Top Secret et al. "recently". It arises from Operation Flicker which in 2006 found images purchased off the internet by government officials. 2007 they obtained a search warrant. Federal investigators identified about 20 Pentagon employees and contractors and former military members, who allegedly bought and downloaded online child pornography and in some cases used their government-issued computers to view the illegal material. Some of those people have been prosecuted, and some of their cases were dropped for lack of evidence. Other cases remain open.

The number 5,000 is the actual number of people who were investigated by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, not the number of people found in the pentagon.

And yes there have been prosecutions, all though you are in telling people there have not.
From the Washington Post July 2010...

The cases detailed in the new report include one involving an employee of Oracle Corp. who had a top-secret clearance and worked on a contract for the National Security Agency. The man subscribed to various child pornography Web sites and made 21 purchases. After authorities started investigating him, the report said, he attempted to tamper with computers at his office. He was put on administrative leave with pay. He later fled to Libya but was arrested and extradited to the United States.

Another case involved a government employee at the National Defense University in Norfolk who made two purchases from a child pornography Web site. He pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography and was sentenced to five years in prison.

Now, you say I hang around like flies on sh1t for a "long while", except you only have 40 posts. That's a bit odd, are you sure you're not a re-reg??? Is that you Mysterious? Welcome back...

Monty Burnz

studiorat wrote: »

The number 5,000 is the actual number of people who were investigated by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, not the number of people found in the pentagon.

Hey, play fair - don't let the truth get in the way of a good story!

Mr Plough

By Bryan Bender
Globe Staff / January 5, 2011

In 2006, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which conducts Internet pornography investigations, produced a list of 5,200 Pentagon employees suspected of viewing child pornography and asked the Pentagon to review it. But the Pentagon checked only about two-thirds of the names, unearthing roughly 300 defense and intelligence employees who allegedly had viewed child pornography on their work or home computers.

The defense investigators failed to check an additional 1,700 names on the list, defense officials have revealed in correspondence with Senator Charles Grassley, Republican of Iowa.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/01/05/pentagon_lagged_on_pursuing_porn_cases/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Top+political+stories

Monty Burnz

300 is a long way from 5000, but it's still a hell of a lot. How many folks work in the Pentagon? According to Wikipedia, it's around 23,000 - so around 1% - 2% of the staff have allegedly downloaded child porn. I wonder what the typical figures are for the general population?

Mr Plough

Monty Burnz wrote: »

300 is a long way from 5000, but it's still a hell of a lot. How many folks work in the Pentagon? According to Wikipedia, it's around 23,000 - so around 1% - 2% of the staff have allegedly downloaded child porn. I wonder what the typical figures are for the general population?

Not forgetting that 1700 were not investigated at all, someone pulling strings I suppose, pardon the pun.

enno99

Monty Burnz wrote: »

300 is a long way from 5000, but it's still a hell of a lot. How many folks work in the Pentagon? According to Wikipedia, it's around 23,000 - so around 1% - 2% of the staff have allegedly downloaded child porn. I wonder what the typical figures are for the general population?

1% - 2& of the general population that,s a scary thought

Monty Burnz

Mr Plough wrote: »

Not forgetting that 1700 were not investigated at all, someone pulling strings I suppose, pardon the pun.

Wocka wocka!

The 2% figure would be more or less accurate if the same proportion if allegations arose from the guys who were not fully investigated as arose from those that were.

studiorat

Mr Plough wrote: »

By Bryan Bender
Globe Staff / January 5, 2011

In 2006, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which conducts Internet pornography investigations, produced a list of 5,200 Pentagon employees suspected of viewing child pornography and asked the Pentagon to review it.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/01/05/pentagon_lagged_on_pursuing_porn_cases/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Top+political+stories

Actually Bender's analysis is wrong. It looks like he didn't actually read the original document correctly. Just goes to show how much "research" goes on!

The document says :

AUSA Smagala advised that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was conducting a national investigation that identified over 5,000 individuals who subscribed to predicated child pomography websites.

National investigation by Immigration and Customs, the clue is in the national bit.


http://www.dodig.mil/fo/Foia/ERR/OperationFlicker/200701277C.(black).pdf

Monty Burnz

studiorat wrote: »

Actually Bender's analysis is wrong. It looks like he didn't actually read the original document correctly. Just goes to show how much "research" goes on!

Yeah, but somebody here will have posted that 'fact' in a few other places and a few other people in those places will have posted it in many more, and another conspiracy 'fact' is born. This is why you need to check your sources - it's very easy to lose credibility very quickly otherwise.