The FitzPatrick Tapes- anyone read it yet?

gonedrinking

At €18.99 I'll be fcuked if I'm buying it. But I would like someone on here to buy it and post all the juicy bits in it, if there is any?

andrewdeerpark

Agree surely we are entitled to this book free considering he was one of the main architects of the country's runation.

From the extracts on the Sunday Times he is playing the old dumb leader case and dumping his "friend" Cowen in the S**T. At what point in a multimillion pound job can you justify that defence!!

The braisen cheek of the man....

When will Cowen learn these people are not your friends, when are the fraud squad going to kick down his door at dawn are drag him off to jail, oh sorry this is Ireland where white collar crime is never punished.

Plus see the auditors at Anglo; Ernst & Young are being sued in the US

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101221/bs_nm/us_ernstandyoung_lehman_lawsuit

Over Lehman.

Noting like that happening here.....

Remember when Enron collapsed the subsequest case against Anderson Consulting brought the company down WORLDWIDE, surely we in Ireland have a similar case here against Ernst & Young.

The rotten behaviour continues......

orourkeda

While the suggestion that the likes of Sean Fitzpatrick are imprisoned for any crimes is legitimate, will it really serve to rid irish business and politics of its corrupt practices.

The "stroke" is so ingrained in the irish psyche that imprisoning a few crooked property developers and bankers will not change this. The problem runs much deeper.

RichardAnd

orourkeda wrote: »

While the suggestion that the likes of Sean Fitzpatrick are imprisoned for any crimes is legitimate, will it really serve to rid irish business and politics of its corrupt practices.

The "stroke" is so ingrained in the irish psyche that imprisoning a few crooked property developers and bankers will not change this. The problem runs much deeper.

Agreed. What has been revealed in the last few years is merely scratching the surface of what is an innately corrupt society.

orourkeda

RichardAnd wrote: »

Agreed. What has been revealed in the last few years is merely scratching the surface of what is an innately corrupt society.

Therein lies the problem. We're only being dripfed a very small percentage of what goes on behind the scenes.

Rubik.

orourkeda wrote: »

Therein lies the problem. We're only being dripfed a very small percentage of what goes on behind the scenes.

True, but it could be said that knowing there was no consequences for this kind of behaviour, allowed it to flourish. So punishing a few high profile individuals would have some effect I think.

jimmycrackcorm

Why buy it when Vinny Browne will give us the entertaining version....

orourkeda

Rubik. wrote: »

True, but it could be said that knowing there was no consequences for this kind of behaviour, allowed it to flourish. So punishing a few high profile individuals would have some effect I think.

But not enough of an effect that will reduce it in any meaningful way.

Rubik.

orourkeda wrote: »

But not enough of an effect that will reduce it in any meaningful way.

Possibly not, but I don't really see that as a reason not to go after the likes of Fitzpatrick. There would have be the political will to tackle the problem and reduce it in a more meaningful way. The Director of Corporate Enforcement was complaining for years that his department was understaffed, but FF were always reluctant to do anything about it. We will have to wait and see if FG/Lab are going to be any different.

GobBass

gonedrinking wrote: »

At €18.99 I'll be fcuked if I'm buying it. But I would like someone on here to buy it and post all the juicy bits in it, if there is any?

He should pay us to read it. Oh wait,he would need a loan to do that.

femur61

This country is so frustating, now we expected to part with money to read about a man a corrupt system that brought the country to its knees.

Seth Brundle

femur61 wrote: »

This country is so frustating, now we expected to part with money to read about a man a corrupt system that brought the country to its knees.

There are loads of books out there about corrupt people, murderers, rapists, etc.
Its nothing new!

qwytre

femur61 wrote: »

This country is so frustating, now we expected to part with money to read about a man a corrupt system that brought the country to its knees.

Who expects you to pay for the book?

the explorer

6.5 billion people on earth, 18.99 per book = €123,435,000,000

national debt paid off, world learns how to create their own "celtic mircale", berties finishes his distinguished career as UN sec-gen. Happy Days.

Zynks

femur61 wrote: »

This country is so frustating, now we expected to part with money to read about a man a corrupt system that brought the country to its knees.

I doubt Seannie is getting any of it. People who buy it are paying the writers for their work. It is fully optional, and you should be able to get it from some libraries on loan if the money is the issue.

micro_dot

Looking at the news, I wonder if the book is going out of date already.

The list of who played golf with Seanie and Cowen grows longer.

Why did O Caolain stay stumm so long?

What we pretended to know is almost as funny as what we pretended not to know. ('We' because we voted for this).

GSF

micro_dot wrote: »

Why did O Caolain stay stumm so long?

Perhaps he didnt realise he was sitting on dynamite

femur61

qwytre wrote: »

Who expects you to pay for the book?

Someone is expected to pay for it.

later12

femur61 wrote: »

Someone is expected to pay for it.

Anticipated, certainly, but nothing wrong with that.

Well I bought it, am reading it at the moment. I'm on Chapter 5, 'The Player', about a third of the way through. It's a bit of an incoherent read to be honest, but it's certainly an interesting take on Anglo.

I laughed out loud when I read FitzPatrick's description of how he got into the bank business.

''It was very difficult to get a loan from a building society. You had to be with them for a hundred years and you had to have 80% of the deposit. Ridiculous stuff [...] I had no idea I was going to make a career in banking. I just wanted a loan''.

Man got his loan.

Buy the book, you won't be enriching FitzPatrick as far as I am aware, but you will get a rare insight into Anglo and Irish banking. Btw I have nothing to gain from recommending it, obviously.

dan_d

Couldn't be f"&*ed reading it.
I already know we're screwed. Why would I give someone like Sean Fitzpatrick the time of day by reading about him?

micro_dot

The book is definitely a power play. What happens in Druid's Glen would normally stay in Druid's Glen. These guys don't seem to talk about what goes on between them normally. Cowen said he'd had lunch with these bankers openly, as seen by O'Caolain, and surely dozens of others. I hate conspiracy theories, but nobody spoke about this lunch for two and a half years. We are governed by secretive golf-playing, horse-trading elites. Funny handshakes, how are ya!

So Fitzpatrick and Drumm will break this law of omerta before giving up the passwords for the notorious Anglo files?

De Valera had the right idea when he owned the Irish Press. You have to buy good press nowadays. What does it serve to further Fitzie's version of events?