Aflockalypse Now: Birds - Magnetosphere - It's the Beginning of the End!

FISMA

First, it was the fish. Up to 100,000 dead fish along the Arkansas river.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40887450/ns/us_news-environment/

Then, about 125 miles away, thousands of birds drop from sky.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-05/us/arkansas.bird.mystery_1_red-winged-blackbirds-fischer-arkansas-game?_s=PM:US
Because of noise? Please.

Then, even more birds die in Louisianna and Sweden from blunt force trauma.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/birds-who-died-mysteriously-in-sweden-suffered-acute-blunt-force/story-e6frf7m6-1225983430372

Google is now setting up a site to track mass animal deaths
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b

Clearly, there's something go on in the states.

On December 21, 2012, there will be an alignment of the Galactic Center, the Sun, and the Earth. Some believe there may be a black hole at the center of the Galaxy. What will be the effect of this alignment?

The Earth in the past has gone through pole reversal symmetry - that is, the North Pole Becomes a South and the South becomes a North Pole. We know this from evidence in volcanic rocks.

The concern is how the poles reverse. Does the magnetic field of the Earth collapse to zero during pole reversal? The Earth's magnetic field protects us from particles, like the solar wind, hence the magnetosphere. Without a magnetic field, we will be at the mercy of these particles.

Birds are known to navigate using the Earth's magnetic field.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-secret-of-how-birds-navigate-during-migration-818766.html

Clearly, what we are seeing right now is the beginning of the end - the collapse of the Earth's Magnetic field and Magnetosphere. Disruptions or localized weakening of the Earth's magnetic field are causing birds to lose their ability to navigate. Resulting in their crashing into one another or other objects. Hence the blunt force trauma found in the birds.

Clearly there is a conspiracy to suppress the science behind the inevitable doom we face and blame firecrackers.

Clearly...

:eek:

Oops, just saw this in another post - sorry for the double post. Where's the delete thread button?

Mahatma coat

We should ask the Mods to let two threads run on this, its Current and I think a two thread aproach would work, we can post our theories and stuff here, and our observations there, orsomesuch

FISMA

Mahtma,
Fair idea - I leave the decision to the mods/community
Slan

MRPRO03

On December 21, 2012, there will be an alignment of the Galactic Center, the Sun, and the Earth. Some believe there may be a black hole at the center of the Galaxy. What will be the effect of this alignment?

It happened in 1998 apparently and nothing seemed to happen. Also, some say that it happens every year on that date aswell.

Lone Stone

i saw some thing on the news about an ariport having to shut down because of the magnetic poles shifting on the north pole. Wonder if its related hmm. ****s getting wierd in here.

here this all i could find from a quick google search

http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2011/01/07/shifting_magnetic_poles_shut_tia_runway

By Steve Newborn (Send E-Mail)
TAMPA (2011-1-7) -
The magnetic north pole is not a fixed object. It’s continually moving. In fact, it’s actually racing from Canada to Siberia, and that has officials at Tampa International airport a little busy today.

"Over 100 panels need to be changed, 40 signs, surface-painted signs, a lot of work going on," says Scott Loper of Tampa’s airport. He says they've had to shut down their main runway for a week to repaint the signs that help pilots navigate around the airport.

Pilots have traditionally flown with the help of a magnetic compass, and runways are designated along the points of the compass. The runway known as 1-8 Right - for its place at 180 degrees on the compass - is now found at 190 degrees.

So up went the barricades, and the airport's jets will have to use another runway for a week while its approach numbers and signs are repainted

Loper says it's not just Tampa International feeling the sting of the shifting Magnetic Pole.

"Atlanta, I believe, is going to have to close some of their runways to start their process," he says. "Last year, we had West Palm Beach that had some runways they had to do."

The idea of using magnetic compasses in this age of satellites and instant communications may seem quaint. But Loper says it will still be a while before aviation officials can steer away from the designation.

"You have your GPS's and that type of navigation - that's more based on true north and longitude and latitude because it's better fixes and stuff like that - so it's getting more precise, but they haven't made the change yet, so we were caught in that."

And they may yet be caught again. The magnetic poles are still moving - and in the past magnetic north and south actually switched places. But the last time that happened was more than 700,000 years ago.

©2011 WUSF. All rights reserve

Darlughda

Oh goodee. Now this is more like it.

Portents of Dec 21, 2012?

Thing is-pinning any idea or theory to this date is setting oneself up for utter derision if the time comes and passes without the prophesized stuff.

However, this birds and fish thing has me really suspect of what possibly could be causing this?

SEANoftheDEAD

Darlughda wrote: »

However, this birds and fish thing has me really suspect of what possibly could be causing this?

aye me too... and the fact that Sky News etc arent digging in deeper with reports has be baffled. Surely all these deaths are somewhat related. Personally id consider this front or second page news. Are the ''high powers'' not interested in solving this?

Nehaxak

Darlughda wrote: »

However, this birds and fish thing has me really suspect of what possibly could be causing this?

My money is on HAARP for that one.

As to 2012, my prediction is that it will rain in Ireland nearly every day of the year and be flippin' cold for most of it. Other than that, I'll be looking forward to 2013 and all the doom-sayers then exclaiming they were using the wrong calender and that they should have been using the Ethiopian calender, which is a few years behind ours and that the real 2012 has still to come :rolleyes:

Poles shifting theory is kind of interesting though, if even just for the possibility of same, would be interesting to understand what exactly might happen if such a thing took place.

I'm looking forward to Venus passing in front of the sun though, that should be cool along with the possibility of the coronal mass ejections knocking all the satellites out of orbit but sure that can happen at any time really.

Wouldn't it be nice to be one of the chosen few at Newgrange on that morning Should have put my name in the hat for that one years ago. Think I might pop along anyway for the craic, even if just to hang around outside.

Darlughda

Nehaxak wrote: »

As to 2012, my prediction is that it will rain in Ireland nearly every day of the year and be flippin' cold for most of it.

Great.

Think I prefer the poles shifting and needing to spiritually ascend to the 5th dimension to survive 21/12/12.

SEANoftheDEAD

When i think about hundreads of birds suddenly dropping out of the sky, dead, i think of the EMP they use in the Matrix against the machines.

latenia

NEW YEARS EVE FIREWORKS YOU SPANNERS

Nehaxak

Feckin' good aim with them fireworks if so, I'm guessing they weren't made in China then - any fireworks I get made in China usually fly left, right, down, in circle - anyway but straight up in the air with pinpoint accuracy to kill multiple birds and leave no trace of any impact. In fairness though I've never tried to kill a bird with any fireworks and it's usually at night, when generally birds aren't flying around in great numbers.

Mahatma coat

Yeah, we know that the Magnetic pole 'floats' 'eastwards' but I was led to believe that this was a calculable drift, I've always wondered what happende when it got to True north (or the ultimate magnetic version) I think that might be the catalyst for the actual switch.

When I was in School I had the "Weetbix Atlas'' circa 1988 it showed the MAgnetic pole somewhere in Northern Canada, current Maps have it North of Greenland somewhere, at that rate 2012 isnt that unfeasible


OH

I Love the name
Aflockalypse
:D:D:D:D:D

Mahatma coat

I've been reticent to mention HAARP yet, as I dont Really understand what it does and the information about it Conflicts on many levels, either its capable of all the Evils in the world or its a Giant White elephant Sucking Billions from the US Treasury, Either way They aint tellin us

SEANoftheDEAD

latenia wrote: »

NEW YEARS EVE FIREWORKS YOU SPANNERS

sure it is. why now? over a century of fireworks and never something like this has happened.

so 100 odd thousand fish got spoked and died from fireworks?

ye need to look a little deeper into this one mate

Nehaxak

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Aflockalypse
:D:D:D:D:D

Class that

Jeboa Safari

Our ancestors survived pole shifts, no reason why we wouldn't or why its a signal the end times seen as its happened several times before

Nehaxak

I'll ask my Dad, (who races pigeons) every now and again if there's been reports of multiple losses from any races during the coming year and will report back on here if I remember too

We've had instances in the past where tens of thousands of pigeons have gone missing, or ended up in strange places around the world (each has a ring which can be tracked back to the owner) from races out of the UK, France, Ireland and South Africa and it's been put down a fair few times to coincide with coronal mass ejection outbursts from the Sun a day or two before the birds are released.

So it's not beyond the realms of possibility that if indeed the polls are or will shift at all, that pigeons therefore could be effected. It's not the only thing they rely on though (their inbuilt compass as such) but it plays a big part apparently.

FISMA

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I Love the name
Aflockalypse
:D:D:D:D:D

Thanks, I am glad to have made you smile.

I wish I could take credit for that one, however, I did see "Aflockalypse" somewhere on-line. Hence, the change of title. Always give credit where credit is due.

Still, making someone laugh or smile is always a good thing in my book.

GregoryNimmo

Out here in Dublin today there was a mass gathering of birds, I mean like hundreds upon hundreds, covering the roofs off all the houses on the road, My sister rang me and was like "This is really eerie!".

Just thought I'd point that out :P

010010011010

sure it is. why now? over a century of fireworks and never something like this has happened.

so 100 odd thousand fish got spoked and died from fireworks?

ye need to look a little deeper into this one mate

Fireworks are loud and frightening, And birds are of a nervous disposition, to avoid being caught by cats etc..

Now take a large flock of sleeping birds in a few close by trees, and set fireworks off right beside them. They died of shock- Heart attacks.

Thats according to someone from bird watch Ireland on the radio the last day

And of course you knew he wasn't referring to the fish dying from fireworks, don't be a twat. Theres plenty of pollution that could have cause something like that

SEANoftheDEAD

010010011010 wrote: »

Fireworks are loud and frightening, And birds are of a nervous disposition, to avoid being caught by cats etc..

Now take a large flock of sleeping birds in a few close by trees, and set fireworks off right beside them. They died of shock- Heart attacks.

Thats according to someone from bird watch Ireland on the radio the last day

And of course you knew he wasn't referring to the fish dying from fireworks, don't be a twat. Theres plenty of pollution that could have cause something like that

Thats all well and good. But ye cant say Fireworks are reason behind all deaths around the globe.

FISMA

010010011010 wrote: »

Now take a large flock of sleeping birds in a few close by trees, and set fireworks off right beside them. They died of shock- Heart attacks.

I doubt these birds simply heard a loud noise and were frightened to death.

In these areas, I am sure they have heard worse: thunder, gunshots.

More likely, they were frightened from their roost in the middle of the night by a loud noise and started to fly.

These birds have poor night vision, not something conducive to nighttime flight. They then probably hit something while in flight, like each other.

Mahatma coat

the weatherman in the video of the radar anomaly over Arkansas that was most likely the large flock of birds, estimates the altitude of the flock at 1300 - 1500 Feet, Fireworks only get to 500-700 Feet, with most only gettin 100 - 300 feet up due to wind etc.

So I woldnt be relying too heavily on fireworks as an explanation, I still think the magnetic fluctuation theory is the most plausible

namloc1980

FISMA wrote: »

On December 21, 2012, there will be an alignment of the Galactic Center, the Sun, and the Earth. Some believe there may be a black hole at the center of the Galaxy. What will be the effect of this alignment?

No there will be no alignment on the 21st December 2012 or at any other time for that matter.



The circle in the middle is the location of Sagittarius A* - the blackhole at the centre of our Galaxy. On the 21st Dec 2012 the Sun will be at least 6 or 7 degrees away from it from our viewpoint. So there will be no impact from this so called "alignment" - the Sun has been in this location on the 21st Dec for about the last couple of hundred years and will slowly drift because of precession over the next few centuries.

In any case even if there were an "alignment" nothing would happen. The Glactic Centre is over 30,000 light years away and it's gravitational influence on us is miniscule.

FISMA wrote: »

The Earth in the past has gone through pole reversal symmetry - that is, the North Pole Becomes a South and the South becomes a North Pole. We know this from evidence in volcanic rocks.

The concern is how the poles reverse. Does the magnetic field of the Earth collapse to zero during pole reversal? The Earth's magnetic field protects us from particles, like the solar wind, hence the magnetosphere. Without a magnetic field, we will be at the mercy of these particles.

Birds are known to navigate using the Earth's magnetic field.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-secret-of-how-birds-navigate-during-migration-818766.html

Clearly, what we are seeing right now is the beginning of the end - the collapse of the Earth's Magnetic field and Magnetosphere. Disruptions or localized weakening of the Earth's magnetic field are causing birds to lose their ability to navigate. Resulting in their crashing into one another or other objects. Hence the blunt force trauma found in the birds.

It is true that the magnetic poles have shifted over time as is evidenced in the geological record. It is also evident from these records that the shift takes on the order of 1,000+ years to happen - it's not something that happens overnight or in the space of a few days or months.

We are now approaching a solar maxima in 2012/13 when the Sun's activity will reach a peak witin it's current cycle. There will be increases in solar activity such as CME, flares etc. It is possible that such events will affect the magnetosphere and in turn affect birds, many of whom use magnetic field lines to navigate. But end of the world or any of that, no. I just can't wait until the 1st January 2013 when all this 2012 non sense goes away - but I suspect a new date for the end of the world will be made up then.

andyseadog

namloc1980 wrote: »

No there will be no alignment on the 21st December 2012 or at any other time for that matter.



The circle in the middle is the location of Sagittarius A* - the blackhole at the centre of our Galaxy. On the 21st Dec 2012 the Sun will be at least 6 or 7 degrees away from it from our viewpoint. So there will be no impact from this so called "alignment" - the Sun has been in this location on the 21st Dec for about the last couple of hundred years and will slowly drift because of precession over the next few centuries.

In any case even if there were an "alignment" nothing would happen. The Glactic Centre is over 30,000 light years away and it's gravitational influence on us is miniscule.



It is true that the magnetic poles have shifted over time as is evidenced in the geological record. It is also evident from these records that the shift takes on the order of 1,000+ years to happen - it's not something that happens overnight or in the space of a few days or months.

We are now approaching a solar maxima in 2012/13 when the Sun's activity will reach a peak witin it's current cycle. There will be increases in solar activity such as CME, flares etc. It is possible that such events will affect the magnetosphere and in turn affect birds, many of whom use magnetic field lines to navigate. But end of the world or any of that, no. I just can't wait until the 1st January 2013 when all this 2012 non sense goes away - but I suspect a new date for the end of the world will be made up then.

the voice of logic at last :rolleyes:

loldog

The earth's magnetic poles are shifting around all the time. Aircraft runways are numbered according to their magnetic compass heading. They sometimes have to be re-numbered because of the drift of the magnetic poles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway#Orientation_and_dimensions

Runway designations change over time because the magnetic poles slowly drift on the Earth's surface and the magnetic bearing will change. Depending on the airport location and how much drift takes place, it may be necessary over time to change the runway designation. As runways are designated with headings rounded to the nearest 10 degrees, this will affect some runways more than others. For example, if the magnetic heading of a runway is 233 degrees, it would be designated Runway 23. If the magnetic heading changed downwards by 5 degrees to 228, the Runway would still be Runway 23. If on the other hand the original magnetic heading was 226 (Runway 23), and the heading decreased by only 2 degrees to 224, the runway should become Runway 22. Because the drift itself is quite slow, runway designation changes are uncommon, and not welcomed, as they require an accompanying change in aeronautical charts and descriptive documents. When runway designations do change, especially at major airports, it is often changed at night as taxiway signs need to be changed and the huge numbers at each end of the runway need to be repainted to the new runway designators. In July 2009 for example, London Stansted Airport in the United Kingdom changed its runway designations from 05/23 to 04/22 after dark.

sysconp1

What I would like to know is... If the fireworks are to blame, how can the UK have a bird population at all? On November the 5th everyone and their dogs fire off fireworks and you don't hear of mass bird deaths there. Are they all deaf in the UK or do they find sound proof trees to roost in?

Fireworks as the reason for the mass deaths sounds about as likely as the weather balloon in Roswell.

Carra23

latenia wrote: »

NEW YEARS EVE FIREWORKS YOU SPANNERS

Ahhh I see, so that's why this happens every around new years eve..... no no wait it doesn't.... so this must be the very first year in history that people let off fire works around new years eve..... now I get it :rolleyes: