Is a boiler stove possible?

glic83

Just wondering if a boiler stove would be possible in my situation,i have a heatpac boiler outside,1 mv downstairs and 2 mv in the hotpress for upstairs and hw,what would be needed to get a boiler stove working on this system,the pipes would be run from the sitting room upstairs and then to the hotpress i presume which would look after the upstairs and hw but how would downstairs have to be connected and also how would this work in conjunction with the motorised valves if its even possible?thanks

glic83

anyone?

cabledude

Of course it's possible. You only adding in the hot water that is being generated in the stove into your existing heating system. There are loads of threads here about this topic. Have a look through the previous threads/posts and you'll find it there.

glic83

have been looking but wondering how it would work with the motorised valves is all,the motorised valves only open when the oil heating comes on,so how would the back boiler circulate when this is the case unless you manually open the valves yourself?

cabledude

Well i'm not a plumber, the plumbers will correct any of what i'm about to tell you if it's incorrect.

How this would work is that your feed(hot) water pipe coming from the stove would tap into your heating circuits AFTER the position where your MVs are. So your stove can be burning and heating your water and in turn heating you rads without the MV's being open. Then if you want to heat the house with your oil boiler you simply turn it on and it'll work away as normal.

DoneDL

A bit of pipework alteration and non return valves with the solid fuel connected to allow this pipework to connect to the heating without being impeded by the MV`s.

glic83

its not so much the 2 mv's in the hotpress as it would be easy enough to by pass these it would the mv thats in the utility that i would be worried about getting a pipe back to,will have to have a good think about it as it could be a lot of hassle to get this done and sorted out properly,thanks for the help lads

cabledude

glic83 wrote: »

its not so much the 2 mv's in the hotpress as it would be easy enough to by pass these it would the mv thats in the utility that i would be worried about getting a pipe back to,will have to have a good think about it as it could be a lot of hassle to get this done and sorted out properly,thanks for the help lads

Best advice here would be to get in a plumber who has good experience of installing stove's and you should have no hassle. Best of luck with it.:D

glic83

cheers thats what i will do i think

ntpm

glic83 wrote: »

have been looking but wondering how it would work with the motorised valves is all,the motorised valves only open when the oil heating comes on,so how would the back boiler circulate when this is the case unless you manually open the valves yourself?

I would not recommend just connecting the stove directly into the existing radiator pipework..:eek:


Solid fuel stoves must have a unobstructive heat sink ( hot water cylinder and maybe a radiator).
Important to have gravity flow and return pipework from stove to cylinder.

You ideally should replace your cylinder with a dual coil cylinder... one for oil boiler and one for solid fuel,
you then connect the existing radiator system to the solid fuel feed voa pump and non return valves.

Not really straight forward existing controls for your boiler need to be checked to ensure your boiler does not heat the cylinder is the soild fuel stove has got the water hot enough.

Seek advice from an experience plumber/ heating engineer.

Buford T Justice

If you want to heat the rads from the stove, then you must have an open vented system to do this.

glic83

Fingers McGee wrote: »

If you want to heat the rads from the stove, then you must have an open vented system to do this.

i know m8 begining to think it might be more hassle than its worth

cabledude

glic83 wrote: »

i know m8 begining to think it might be more hassle than its worth

I thought the same. But then when you consider the increase in comfort levels when the stove is humming away in the background keeping the place nice and cosy it makes the hassle worth it. Also you should consider payback for money spent. If it costs you 2500 this year it may cost you more next.... If you have an open fire at the moment and are burning solid fuel you'd be mental not to avail of the heat generated to heat hot water and/or rads.

Finally oil is going to become rare and extremely expensive when the world economy picks up again. People think their home heating bill's are high now. Lets check back in 5 years to see how expensive it'll be. Kerosene is in or around 80c per litre at the moment. 5 years ago it was 40c. How much will it be in 2016?

creaghadoos

i am currently considering putting in a boiler model stove. i have a high pressure system, and am looking at a stanley erin and see it classed as a high pressure boiler. does this by any slim possibility mean that it could be added to a high pressure system.

glic83

cabledude wrote: »

I thought the same. But then when you consider the increase in comfort levels when the stove is humming away in the background keeping the place nice and cosy it makes the hassle worth it. Also you should consider payback for money spent. If it costs you 2500 this year it may cost you more next.... If you have an open fire at the moment and are burning solid fuel you'd be mental not to avail of the heat generated to heat hot water and/or rads.

Finally oil is going to become rare and extremely expensive when the world economy picks up again. People think their home heating bill's are high now. Lets check back in 5 years to see how expensive it'll be. Kerosene is in or around 80c per litre at the moment. 5 years ago it was 40c. How much will it be in 2016?

i have a stove at the moment (non boiler) and the fact that i have a sealed system means i would have to change over to an open system plus a lot of work with the pipework still thinking about it but could be an awful lot of work

ntpm

Healy1 wrote: »

i too have a pressurised system, and i will be installing a stove to it i will leave system pressurised and control with stat and pump,

granted not ideal,

but as im a plumber and i know the dangers, wont hold me back.

WHAT THE F@#K.. :eek:If you are plumber then you souldnt even be thinking about it.
GET REAL.
Does the rest of the house occupiers know that they are going to be living in a time bomb!!!!!!!!!!!
At least your labour would cost you nothing and I'm sure you could buy the materials pretty cheap.