Transgenders and their sexual orientation.

Azure_sky

What is yours?

L.Jenkins

For some reason I found the poll a tough one. I didn't know what assumption to make, pre or post transition. Got it in the end though.

Azure_sky

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

For some reason I found the poll a tough one. I didn't know what assumption to make, pre or post transition. Got it in the end though.

Ah, I should have clarified that one. For this poll at least, if you're male to female and like girls please vote gay. Vice versa for female to male scenario.

baby and crumble

Azure_Sky wrote:

For this poll at least, if you're male to female and like girls please vote straight.

Surely if you're m2f and like girls you're gay? You're a woman who likes women?

Azure_sky

zoegh wrote: »

Surely if you're m2f and like girls you're gay? You're a woman who likes women?

That's what I meant to say. Sorry, I'm just not with it this morning.

baby and crumble

I was just wondering, seemed a bit odd.

And hey, on the plus side it's nearly the weekend!

hare05

Gonna vote pan because my sexuality confuses me.

Azure_sky

I voted pan and I don't feel confused by it at all. I don't feel limited to male, female or anyone on the transgender spectrum.

baby and crumble

Could someone explain a bit about pansexualism? Because is bisexuality not essentially the same thing? (excuse my ignorance...)

Azure_sky

It basically means that your attractions or not based soley around biological sex or gender identity. Bi sexuality traditional means just male and female. Many people do not fall under these physical and identity definitions: Bi genders, androgenes, transgenders who are content not getting the full sex change but live as their desired gender, the gender fluid and intersexed person.

I'll leave Wiki do the talking.

Bisexuality is often described as attraction to both men and women.[5] Pansexuality has been described as a "means to skip the binaries and essentialism of 'bi'."[6]
Some people assert that bisexuality means attraction "regardless of gender", or "more than one gender".[7] These definitions match the definitions of pansexuality and polysexuality, respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality

baby and crumble

Oh right. Ok, so all the people who label themselves as bisexual and more interested in falling for a personality rather than a gender are probably more pansexual?

Sorry if that sounds harsh, just trying to expand my knowledge and horizons a wee bit!

Azure_sky

zoegh wrote: »

Oh right. Ok, so all the people who label themselves as bisexual and more interested in falling for a personality rather than a gender are probably more pansexual?

Sorry if that sounds harsh, just trying to expand my knowledge and horizons a wee bit!

That would be part of it in a way. Gender identity and expression is part of the attraction process. Physical sex is another. Like an intersexed person or a transgender, whether M2F or F2M, who lives as their desired gender but is content with not getting the full sex change. The have a mixture of male and female primary and secondary sex characteristics-or a person who presents themselves as androgynous.

deirdre_dub

Voted unsure/other, as my usual answer to that question is "straight-ish". Not sure I'm yet fully able to identify as bi.

rainbow kirby

deirdre_dub wrote: »

Voted unsure/other, as my usual answer to that question is "straight-ish". Not sure I'm yet fully able to identify as bi.

Heteroflexible?

stephen_n

God there are an awful lot of little boxes to put people in!

liah

I think it's interesting that so far half identify as gay. Really illustrates the difference between gender identity and sexuality.

deirdre_dub

rainbow kirby wrote: »

deirdre_dub wrote:

Voted unsure/other, as my usual answer to that question is "straight-ish". Not sure I'm yet fully able to identify as bi.

Heteroflexible?

Maybe. Or maybe just desperate :rolleyes:

Nawh - seriously - I reckon that the most accurate answer is that I'm sexually bisexual, and romantically straight-ish.

deirdre_dub

liah wrote: »

I think it's interesting that so far half identify as gay. Really illustrates the difference between gender identity and sexuality.

What I'm finding interesting is that no-one has identified as bi (so far) - I've come the closest. It's interesting because bi seems to be quite common amongst the full-time trans friends I have.

Azure_sky

deirdre_dub wrote: »

What I'm finding interesting is that no-one has identified as bi (so far) - I've come the closest. It's interesting because bi seems to be quite common amongst the full-time trans friends I have.

I noticed that too, but it could be because alot of trans people just never heard of the term pansexual and that is what they are closest to. So most TS cite themselves as Bi, when in fact Pan sexual is more accurate for them. I told people I was bi sexual until I heard of the term pan sexual, which more accurately describes me.

deirdre_dub

Azure_sky wrote: »

I noticed that too, but it could be because alot of trans people just never heard of the term pansexual and that is what they are closest to. So most TS cite themselves as Bi, when in fact Pan sexual is more accurate for them. I told people I was bi sexual until I heard of the term pan sexual, which more accurately describes me.

Hmmm. I guess I'm quite close to pansexual. It's just that at the moment, I'm finding I'm more attracted to the idea of spending quality time with a bloke.

hare05

deirdre_dub wrote: »

What I'm finding interesting is that no-one has identified as bi (so far) - I've come the closest. It's interesting because bi seems to be quite common amongst the full-time trans friends I have.

Yeah...

I guess we identify as pansexual / panromantic on here because the people here are more likely to know what it means :rolleyes:, I identify as bi publicly because I don't need to spend 20 minutes with each person explaining why I am not exactly bi, but neither am I straight, gay, or asexual.

Their reaction never seemed to change from -->
So then I just started saying I was bi and everyone was like -->
And for some reason a few were like -->

L.Jenkins

Right now I'm pretty straight, but when I spoke to one of my friends about transitioning and inherantly becoming a lesbian, I may have been giving him a lecture in Quantum Phsyics. Funny actually now that I think of it, but I would consider myself alittle bisexual.