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People taking responsibility

  • 06-01-2011 10:22am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭


    Laurence MacKenzie, boss of Northern Ireland Water resigned on Wednesday following criticism of the handling of the water crisis.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12125850

    Take a look at one of his statements.
    "This is entirely my own decision. I believe firmly in the principles of responsibility and accountability. It is for that fundamental reason I have decided to pursue this course of action."

    Note those two words.

    Now couold someone contrast this with the stands taken by some of our cheif executives, like roddy molloy or patrick neary, that resigned after f***ups that make the Northern Ireland water situation over Christmas pale into insignificance.

    And get this, he is not getting golden handshake severance package ala roddy molloy or patrick neary, but an amount under £100,000.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    jmayo wrote: »
    Laurence MacKenzie, boss of Northern Ireland Water resigned on Wednesday following criticism of the handling of the water crisis.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12125850

    Take a look at one of his statements.
    "This is entirely my own decision. I believe firmly in the principles of responsibility and accountability. It is for that fundamental reason I have decided to pursue this course of action."

    Note those two words.

    Now couold someone contrast this with the stands taken by some of our cheif executives, like roddy molloy or patrick neary, that resigned after f***ups that make the Northern Ireland water situation over Christmas pale into insignificance.

    And get this, he is not getting golden handshake severance package ala roddy molloy or patrick neary, but an amount under £100,000.

    he obviously did not have the benefit of a good jesuit education in republic , did he ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭maninasia


    jmayo wrote: »
    Laurence MacKenzie, boss of Northern Ireland Water resigned on Wednesday following criticism of the handling of the water crisis.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12125850

    Take a look at one of his statements.
    "This is entirely my own decision. I believe firmly in the principles of responsibility and accountability. It is for that fundamental reason I have decided to pursue this course of action."

    Note those two words.

    Now couold someone contrast this with the stands taken by some of our cheif executives, like roddy molloy or patrick neary, that resigned after f***ups that make the Northern Ireland water situation over Christmas pale into insignificance.

    And get this, he is not getting golden handshake severance package ala roddy molloy or patrick neary, but an amount under £100,000.

    Somebody hire this man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    danbohan wrote: »
    he obviously did not have the benefit of a good jesuit education in republic , did he ?

    I know stories like this could possibly be used as evidence of the difference between Irish Catholics and Scottish Presbyterians, but I am not sure of the man's religion.

    Either way he took over and it appears help root out some dodgy deals done by ex chairman ex acting CEO and then he holds his hands up and goes.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Atilathehun


    He was pushed FFS:) Will ye all get up the yard:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭fliball123


    He was pushed FFS:) Will ye all get up the yard:)

    I know but if you get pushed in the south you get pushed with a golden handshake parachute...He got what he deserved....hopefully the southeners will follow by example


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    He was pushed FFS:) Will ye all get up the yard:)

    Yes he was bloody well told he was going and resigned, but contrast with us down here in the Republic where cheif executives, be they public sector or private, leave with massive pension top ups, lump sums, etc and do not even have the good grace to admit responsibility for their actions or inactions.

    Maybe you forget the former head of Fás telling the nation that he and his wife deserved first class transportation to the US.
    He was like some super model telling us it was "because they were worth it".

    This was from a guy who presided over an organisation that has had multiple enquiries into fraudalent corrupt wastage of public funds, dodgy ezxpense schemes for executives and hangers on, sub standard accrediation of students that has meant their training programs and certifications are now viewed as very questionable.

    And don't even get me started on our so called finanical regulator. :mad::mad:

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭amacca


    I wonder was he pushed over something he had very little control over.

    I sometimes feel I would be reluctant to leave jobs like that if there was an issue because I was effectively a figurehead with very little power but lots of responsibility.

    I'd be of the opinion that if you want people at the absolute mercy of a f#ckup then you better give them absolute power to get the job done.

    Dont hamstring them and then whine/bitch call for immediate resignations everytime something goes wrong.

    ffs it was a very unusual weather event was'nt it, maybe something they couldn't have planned for fully..hence the less than ideal response.

    off with their heads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    amacca wrote: »
    I wonder was he pushed over something he had very little control over.

    I sometimes feel I would be reluctant to leave jobs like that if there was an issue because I was effectively a figurehead with very little power but lots of responsibility.

    I'd be of the opinion that if you want people at the absolute mercy of a f#ckup then you better give them absolute power to get the job done.

    Dont hamstring them and then whine/bitch call for immediate resignations everytime something goes wrong.

    ffs it was a very unusual weather event was'nt it, maybe something they couldn't have planned for fully..hence the less than ideal response.

    off with their heads

    I totally agree - I believe that no matter who would have been in charge that the same problems would have occured. I'd be more inclined to see that instead of resigning that the CEO would have come up with and implemented a plan to ensure that there was no re-occurance.

    But he'd be a good guy to hire for another job knowing that he would meet the responsiblity fair and square....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I agree that the men in charge should take responsibility but in our situation (south) we directly elect these fools time and time again just cos they went to someones wake.

    We have to take responsibility ourselves and stop electing (Mary Coughlan in my case) these ministers just because she signed off on school in my area (30 years after the site was aquired).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭maninasia


    She did a crap job as Minister for Enterprise, what's her reward, Minister for Education! What a joke...


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Protestant morals and values, I'd say.

    Just look at how Ivan Yates is conducting himself with the fall of his bookies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 fortycoats100


    No one is held responsible because they (majority) of poliicians, CEO of public sector, trade union heads, justice dept,ddp etc are all one. If one is persued then it will have a domino effect and others will have to be persued. Look at Iver Callely -he claimed false mileage from house in west cork and he made fictious invoices. If you or I claimed fake invoices the revenue commissioners would have us in jail aswell as been charged for false mileage claims. The dpp dropped this case. Someone should look at the dpp's expenses because this country is getting more corrupt as the months pass-imagine their are people going to jail for not paying their tv licence.


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