SuperQuinn in Naas to close

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 5:20pm #1

SuperQuinn in Naas is set to close. Is this just another Irish business forced into closure by larger British corporation? A large Tesco has recently opened on the outskirts of Naas and has killed the local businesses in the town. Everything from butchers to bakers and being forced out. It's becoming a bit like what Walmart have done to small-medium towns in the States.

The out of British chains dominating our high streets in other towns is scarey. In Galway HMV has almost a monopoly on music/dvds and dring Zhivago out. A former business man who owned a menswear shop told me he can't compete with these british high street chains like River Island or Next in terms of prices or marketing/promos. If we keep going like this all Irish owned business will be driven out and the British will own all our towns.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0105/breaking46.html

Tim Robbins · 05-01-2011 5:24pm

Pity the Brits haven't taken over our health service.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 5:30pm

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Pity the Brits haven't taken over our health service.

You won't be saying that when the tories are done with the NHS

Tim Robbins · 05-01-2011 5:33pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

You won't be saying that when the tories are done with the NHS

Well I am saying now after 13 years of fianna fail.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 5:36pm

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Well I am saying now after 13 years of fianna fail.

This isn't about the Health service, it's about towns like Naas which are dying because of these big retailers like Tesco and B & Q opening up on the outskirts. Tesco are even selling clothes these days. Alot of this is due to poor local government. And may I remind you Fine Gael have been the biggest party on Naas town council for a long time now.

When I was a boy even in the recession hit 80s Naas was a great town for doing a weekly shop. You could get everything you needed there and there was a great buzz on the streets. Now you can barely get a cup of coffee never mind buy a hammer or a shirt

JustAddWater · 05-01-2011 5:36pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Is this just another Irish business forced into closure by larger British corporation? A large Tesco has recently opened on the outskirts of Naas and has killed the local businesses in the town.

Not the whole business closing down, just that one branch, so no is the answer to that question!

The superquinn closure has nothing to do with tesco, the store is trading well, the lease expired and the landlord wants to take back the site. Also they wanted to open a new store in naas before this one had to close but couldn't. They said the property market was the reason why they couldn't open a new store

So it's not really superquinns fault, it's the landlord wanting his property back

Really feel for the staff and hope they get offered placement in alternate stores soon!

ilovesleep · 05-01-2011 5:36pm

Its a pity the brits dont come and take us back altogether.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 5:41pm

JustAddWater wrote: »

Not the whole business closing down, just that one branch, so no is the answer to that question!

The superquinn closure has nothing to do with tesco, the store is trading well, the lease expired and the landlord wants to take back the site. Also they wanted to open a new store in naas before this one had to close but couldn't. They said the property market was the reason why they couldn't open a new store

So it's not really superquinns fault, it's the landlord wanting his property back

Really feel for the staff and hope they get offered placement in alternate stores soon!

That's not true. The reason they aren't opening up at the new location is because they can't compete with Tesco just like smaller supermarkets in the states can't compete with Walmart. Sure with the current property market it would be a great time to buy a new site.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 5:42pm

ilovesleep wrote: »

Its a pity the brits dont come and take us back altogether.

Fine Gael are nothing but westbrits. Scratch the blue and there's a unionjack underneath. Vote for them if you love the queen and David Cameron.

sceptre · 05-01-2011 5:49pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fine Gael are nothing but westbrits. Scratch the blue and there's a unionjack underneath. Vote for them if you love the queen and David Cameron.

I'm assuming that when you started this thread that you were hoping for reasoned, discussion-relevant contributions from other forum members. Kindly do the forum the favour of aiming for that standard yourself. You're not doing it with idiotic posts like this and the rest of the universe deserves better. Assume that electrons are scarce and use them more wisely.

/mod

Coillte_Bhoy · 05-01-2011 5:54pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fine Gael are nothing but westbrits. Scratch the blue and there's a unionjack underneath. Vote for them if you love the queen and David Cameron.

Dear god and your party still has the support of 20%??? Frightening.

the_syco · 05-01-2011 5:57pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

SuperQuinn in Naas is set to close. Is this just another Irish business forced into closure by larger British corporation?

NO ! ! !

Try reading the link. It's due to the landlord. Try reading your own link...

JustAddWater · 05-01-2011 5:57pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

That's not true. The reason they aren't opening up at the new location is because they can't compete with Tesco just like smaller supermarkets in the states can't compete with Walmart. Sure with the current property market it would be a great time to buy a new site.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0105/superquinn.html

Coillte_Bhoy · 05-01-2011 6:02pm

the_syco wrote: »

NO ! ! !

Try reading the link. It's due to the landlord. Try reading your own link...

Don't expect the likes of op to do soemthing so rational do you?

later12 · 05-01-2011 6:03pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

When I was a boy even in the recession hit 80s Naas was a great town for doing a weekly shop. You could get everything you needed there and there was a great buzz on the streets. Now you can barely get a cup of coffee never mind buy a hammer or a shirt

Yeah and I bet you could buy a house for £1 and a motorcar was only two and sixpence as well.

This isn't the eighties. The retail market has changed. In some areas, people are happier to save money by shopping in Tesco over Superquinn, or Aldi over the local overpriced Musgrave group store. It's freedom of choice, if people choose not to support local businesses because they're overpriced, so be it.

I don't get all of this 'buy Irish' stuff. Take Dunnes' Stores logo for examples... "because we're Irish". Do people actually buy that rubbish? They're generally overpriced and their products are largely of poor quality, who cares if they're Irish or not, that isn't a reason to support them. I would have hoped that we would be comfortable casting off the iron coat of nationalism by now, or at least thought that we would have left it at the doorstep when the IMF walked in.

wobbles · 05-01-2011 6:17pm

The statement that superquinn cant compete is laughable. Down here in Waterford, there are 4 Tesco's (with a 5th less than 20mins away) and superquinn is still thriving.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 6:21pm

It's terrible to see what has become of the Irish people. No sense of patriotism or republicanism, no sense of spirituality or christianity anymore and no sense of community. Just mindless consumers looking for cheap goods off the Brits and lapping up the populatist nonsense of Labour.

Seth Brundle · 05-01-2011 6:27pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's terrible to see what has become of the Irish people. No sense of patriotism or republicanism, no sense of spirituality or christianity anymore and no sense of community. Just mindless consumers looking for cheap goods off the Brits and lapping up the populatist nonsense of Labour.

...as opposed to using SQ who are owned by many of FFs property buddies who are partly responsible for ruining this country?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Select_Retail_Holdings_Limited

anyway, do you really think that your party are fans of patriotism and republicanism?

RichardAnd · 05-01-2011 6:52pm

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Pity the Brits haven't taken over our health service.

Try as I might, I can't see how you went from British outlets in Ireland to the HSE. I imagine it's something to do with civil servants but normally, it takes a few replies before that comes up.

motherriley · 05-01-2011 7:42pm

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Pity the Brits haven't taken over our health service.

I know this is off topic but you cannot be serious about the Brits taken over health service in Ireland.
just have a look at the links below and you will see why....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8212650/Stafford-Hospital-staff-failed-to-notice-dying-patients.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11696735
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7039285.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/feb/24/mid-staffordshire-hospital-inquiry

Propellerhead · 05-01-2011 7:45pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fine Gael are nothing but westbrits. Scratch the blue and there's a unionjack underneath. Vote for them if you love the queen and David Cameron.

And there lies FF's electoral strategy. Funny then that they are inviting the Queen to the Republic this year.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 7:46pm

kbannon wrote: »

...as opposed to using SQ who are owned by many of FFs property buddies who are partly responsible for ruining this country?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Select_Retail_Holdings_Limited

anyway, do you really think that your party are fans of patriotism and republicanism?

Fianna Fáil have always acted in the national interest

Riamfada · 05-01-2011 7:48pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fianna Fáil have always acted in the national interest

Well if a Fianna Failer said it, it must be true! How wrong we have all been. Thanks for such a valid and convincing point.

stepbar · 05-01-2011 7:49pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fianna Fáil have always acted in the national their own interest

Fixed that there for you.

hotmail.com · 05-01-2011 7:50pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's terrible to see what has become of the Irish people. No sense of patriotism or republicanism, no sense of spirituality or christianity anymore and no sense of community. Just mindless consumers looking for cheap goods off the Brits and lapping up the populatist nonsense of Labour.

Define what you mean by spirituality.

This is just outrageous nonsense.

ilovesleep · 05-01-2011 8:22pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fine Gael are nothing but westbrits. Scratch the blue and there's a unionjack underneath. Vote for them if you love the queen and David Cameron.

I will gladly do that.

Mad Benny · 05-01-2011 8:42pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fianna Fáil have always acted in the national interest

Fianna Fáil has wrecked this country. I cannot say that about any other group.

Shameful fat cat salaries and pensions. Shameful appointments to state boards. Extraordinary incompetence, mismanagement and waste of public finances.

Anybody that thinks otherwise is either in the party, ignorant or stupid in my opinion.

I look forward to the Fianna Fail candidates kocking on my door come the election.

Birdnuts · 05-01-2011 8:58pm

JustAddWater wrote: »

, the lease expired and the landlord wants to take back the site.

That sounds a little bit fishy given the amount of dereliction creeping up and down the mainstreet due to businesses shutting in droves

Birdnuts · 05-01-2011 8:59pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Fianna Fáil have always acted in the national interest

That joke was funny a few years back but its getting a bit jaded now:rolleyes:

PS: Didn't Biffo open the giant Tesco in Naas a few months ago?? - national interest my """""""""""

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 10:09pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Define what you mean by spirituality.

This is just outrageous nonsense.

What I essentially mean is that people have lost that inner morality that guided them in life. Now it just seems like consumerism is the only thing motivating them.

RichardAnd · 05-01-2011 10:17pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

What I essentially mean is that people have lost that inner morality that guided them in life. Now it just seems like consumerism is the only thing motivating them.

I'm inclined to agree that the modern world is very much focused on the more tangible aspects of life. However, whilst you are hinting at what is probably the real cause of the mess we are in, it's not really a topic for this current sub-forum.

Grassroots_FF · 05-01-2011 10:23pm

Propellerhead wrote: »

And there lies FF's electoral strategy. Funny then that they are inviting the Queen to the Republic this year.

And the Fine Gaelers can all borrow their grandfather's unionjack and wave it for the day

Derfil · 05-01-2011 10:28pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

What I essentially mean is that people have lost that inner morality that guided them in life. Now it just seems like consumerism is the only thing motivating them.

That's a bit rich coming from a ff mouth... and as has been pointed out your wrong about why they're closing in Naas.

Did you know Superquinn own the old Technical school in Naas. Cost them a cool 26 mill thanks to the overhyped economy caused by guess who?.. You got it ff, cause they served the needs of their business cronies ahead of the people of the land.

niallam · 05-01-2011 10:29pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's terrible to see what has become of the Irish people. No sense of patriotism or republicanism, no sense of spirituality or christianity anymore and no sense of community. Just mindless consumers looking for cheap goods off the Brits and lapping up the populatist nonsense of Labour.

So given the way the Irish economy has gone you the amount of people that are out of work because FF fooked up the country you'd tell them to shop in Superquinn instead of Tesco and if they dont then they're as good as british themselves????

donkey balls · 05-01-2011 10:43pm

kbannon wrote: »

...as opposed to using SQ who are owned by many of FFs property buddies who are partly responsible for ruining this country?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Select_Retail_Holdings_Limited

anyway, do you really think that your party are fans of patriotism and republicanism?

Bernard Mc Namara sold his share in SQ some time ago as for them not being able to compete with tesco that's bull they are just as cheap as them.
Also SQ employ a UK PLC logistics mgmt company to run the whse&transport function for them so does Dunne Stores on one part of their contract.

Liam Byrne · 05-01-2011 11:26pm

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

What I essentially mean is that people have lost that inner morality that guided them in life.

I agree, and who better to know all about losing morality than someone with a username of Grassroots_FF.

Pity your own party didn't maintain some - we wouldn't be in this mess!

BTW, the above isn't a personal attack; I would initially have assumed that that username implied a hatred of the non-grassroots, upper echelons of FF that are out-of-touch and have wrecked the country, but then I saw the post where you said that FF always acted in the interests of the country, and I laughed.

sceptre · 05-01-2011 11:51pm

Thread closed, it's going nowhere useful and there's more than one of you in it. Also, that whole "we've lost our spirituality [,etc]" thing belongs elsewhere - it's not a political discussion.

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

And the Fine Gaelers can all borrow their grandfather's unionjack and wave it for the day

You had an early warning about this - I don't overuse the word "idiocy" in warnings. Assume there won't be another one if the idiocy continues (and continuing after a big moderator flag is plain idiocy). If I conclude that you're a wind-up merchant, I'll just pull your forum access. We're aiming for a certain standard of discussion here, especially with a general election coming up - try to reach towards it rather than dragging it into the idiot box.

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