Proposed broadband transmitter too close to school

Glenman

I am concerned about a proposed 3g hutchison ireland planning application to construct a 20 metre high telecommunications support structure with antennas and transmission dishes attached in my local area. The applicant proposes to attach 2 no. 0.6 metre transmission dishes and 3 no. 2.1 metre antennas to the monopole.
The application is also submitted with a declaration that the transmitter will be within ICNIRP guidelines.
My main concern is that the construction is only 300 metres away from our local primary school. I am not an expert in this area but I have heard many stories that prolonged exposures to these transmissions can have damaging effects especially to children. What are people's opinions? Are the children safe at a distance of 300 metres from this transmitter?
I do not want to be objecting if there is nothing to worry about, I am just concerned for the health of the children.

Moriarty

Nothing to be worried about. To put it in perspective, most people in citys would be closer than 300 meters to a cell for the majority of their time.

Engineers who work with this equipment every day can generally be working 10-20 meters from the masts while they're active. At the power that these run at, you'd only start to be concerned if you were < 5 meters from them for prolonged periods.

roast

There are no health risks from these transmitters, with the exception of someone physically working on the mast. And even at that, its not really a concern.

Glenman

Thanks for your replies, I hope you are right. Everyone seems to have different opinions. I presume there have been independent studies carried out. Can you point me to any such studies?
I presume the majority of people in this forum are pro-broadband and are sick of people objecting to developments which inhibit infrastructure growth. This thread would possibly get different responses in a human health forum.

bealtine

Glenman wrote: »

Thanks for your replies, I hope you are right. Everyone seems to have different opinions. I presume there have been independent studies carried out. Can you point me to any such studies?
I presume the majority of people in this forum are pro-broadband and are sick of people objecting to developments which inhibit infrastructure growth. This thread would possibly get different responses in a human health forum.

There's more of a health risk from actually using your phone than from the transmitter.

Moriarty

Glenman wrote: »

Thanks for your replies, I hope you are right. Everyone seems to have different opinions. I presume there have been independent studies carried out. Can you point me to any such studies?
I presume the majority of people in this forum are pro-broadband and are sick of people objecting to developments which inhibit infrastructure growth. This thread would possibly get different responses in a human health forum.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/mast_safety/ - BMJ study linked in that article.

There are more than a few people who post in this forum who work with this sort of equipment regularly (myself included).

You're liable to get interesting responses surrounding vaccinations in the conspiracy theories forum too, it's up to you how you weigh these things up I guess As far as I'm aware, all the scientific evidence so far points to mobile masts being of no risk to human health.

Sponge Bob

If you could get the teachers to turn their phones off while in the classroom you would nearly have as great a effect as banning a mast 300m away. Bet nobody is brave enough to ask for that policy to be enforced in the school

yuloni

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William Powell

If you don't like the idea you have a perfect right to complain about it. There was a mast near me that didn't get planning permission because of well organised objections.

watty

There is LESS signal within 20m at base of Mast than 200m away. The beam is narrow vertically.

Also there is no risk.

If you stare into a long range radar you get cataracts. Phone mast is x5 safer frequency and the average power is 1/40th of a Microwave and less than 1/1,000th of TV. The power is spread over a volume of 300,000 cubic meters approx compared with 0.125 cubic meters for inside of a Microwave oven. That means on average the power density of Mobile Phone mast is 1/96,000,000 of a Microwave oven. You can't cook popcorn with 50 mobile phones or 1 mast. (similar total average powers). Power density at Radar feed is about 1000x higher than a Microwave oven. Similar power but compressed to about 1cm x 2cm space! (The YouTube videos of phones cooking popcorn or eggs are fakes)

The whole "Scare" was started by folk that simply didn't want a mast.

It's reasonable to object on cosmetic grounds. In reality any other kind of objection is re-enforcing a nocebo.
(The Nocebo Effect: Placebo's Evil Twin)

We have had high power Radio since Victorian days. If people get REALLY close to 100s or 1000s of watts they might get burns or cataracts. Not one proven case of anything else in over 100 years. Florescent tubes can glow from RF power that's still to low to cause any burns or cataracts. I think you'll find you might have to hold a tube against a Mobile mast aerial to get any slight glow.

watty

BTW these 3G masts are nothing to do with Broadband.

You physically can't deliver Broadband on a Mobile Phone network. Three Hutchison Ireland don't have ANY broadband network or products. Just a Mobile Phone Licence and Network. Despite their advertisments and misleading planning applications.