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Woodgrain PVC sash windows- advice?

  • 05-01-2011 12:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    Hi All,
    Have decided to go with cream, woodgrain effect sliding sash windows for our new build here in Sligo. Have narrowed companies down to M*****r and S*****r, and they seem to be pretty much the same, also am not sure about triple glazing in a sliding sash, is it important? Any advice is appreciated as I have to make a decision immediately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gulliver


    Sent you a PM there re: suppliers. Triple glazing units are quite heavy, don't know how a sash window would fare with the extra weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 61319680


    could you send that to me too
    thanks <SNIP>




    Mod edit: Do not post contact details here. Use the PM system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭mmc2010


    Hi Gulliver, I'm hoping to put something similar in our self build, I would appreciate if you could PM me some supplier details also please. Thanks MMC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gulliver


    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Don Fanucci


    Hi Gulliver, I'm hoping to do something similar (double glazing only) for a new build in Co Kildare. Could you PM me some supplier details also please. Thanks Don Fanucci


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    bighugs wrote: »
    Hi All,
    Have decided to go with cream, woodgrain effect sliding sash windows for our new build here in Sligo. Have narrowed companies down to M*****r and S*****r, and they seem to be pretty much the same, also am not sure about triple glazing in a sliding sash, is it important? Any advice is appreciated as I have to make a decision immediately.

    Hi, the first Co. that you have not named, has been the subject of many threads here and in Prices/Costs Forum, some good comments, many not so good.Can I suggest you go back on older threads, to see some comments.The second Co, may have had a few threads also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭braftery


    As far as i am aware most companies are not manufacturing their own uPVC sliding sash windows but are in fact buying them from a third party manufacturer here in Ireland.

    That is the reason you might find that there is no difference between the models.

    Sliding sash windows are not very thermally effecient and while there is always a small gain from using triple glazing it is pretty nominal with a uPVC sliding sash frame system.

    The only real difference between the suppliers you mentioned will probably be the quality of the install ... i would not vouch for either of them, although the franchise company has some very good franchisee reps .. the other larger firm does half the job of installing the windows and leaves it up to someone else to finish it.

    Better to buy a double glazed well installed window then a triple glazed badly installed one !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭davymc31


    as a window fitter ive fitted a few of these and the most important thing is to make sure the frame is not squeezed in middle during fitting which will make in impossable to slide the sashes when finished plastering and make sure dpc is in properly,if window is not fitted right first day you'll have a lot of problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭K3v


    Could you PM those details too Gulliver? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭awnow


    bighugs wrote: »
    Hi All,
    Have decided to go with cream, woodgrain effect sliding sash windows for our new build here in Sligo. Have narrowed companies down to M*****r and S*****r, and they seem to be pretty much the same, also am not sure about triple glazing in a sliding sash, is it important? Any advice is appreciated as I have to make a decision immediately.

    Consider restrictor locks and a security bar/frame to make the base of the window less inviting to potential intruders! I've had difficulty in sourcing a VSS window with this charactistic so I may have to accept what most suppliers are offering :)


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    awnow wrote: »
    Consider restrictor locks and a security bar/frame to make the base of the window less inviting to potential intruders! I've had difficulty in sourcing a VSS window with this charactistic so I may have to accept what most suppliers are offering :)

    restrictors in bedrooms are compulsory as part of the building regs, perhap sconsider them for other room windows.

    from a personal point of view.... the idea of a sliding sash window built in plastic doesnt sit well with me at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭davymc31


    <SNIP> and as i know no locks are allowed on bedroom windows of any type as there are means of escape so i ve being told but im no expert but check it out



    Mod edit: Please read the forum charter before posting again. Infraction given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 sheba re


    Hi, interesting thread, thanks. I have only recently begun,looking at PVC windows after getting a few quotes for aluclad:eek: Gulliver, would you mind pm ing me the names of the companies also please? I do not really want to go with upvc windows, but may not have any choice as we're budget-bound. Many thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Jack121


    Hi would appreciate a pm with some recommendations am in the
    Kildare area. Jack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭mmc2010


    braftery wrote: »
    As far as i am aware most companies are not manufacturing their own uPVC sliding sash windows but are in fact buying them from a third party manufacturer here in Ireland.

    That is the reason you might find that there is no difference between the models.

    Sliding sash windows are not very thermally effecient and while there is always a small gain from using triple glazing it is pretty nominal with a uPVC sliding sash frame system.

    The only real difference between the suppliers you mentioned will probably be the quality of the install ... i would not vouch for either of them, although the franchise company has some very good franchisee reps .. the other larger firm does half the job of installing the windows and leaves it up to someone else to finish it.

    Better to buy a double glazed well installed window then a triple glazed badly installed one !


    Hi folks, I wouldn't have the best technical knowledge when it comes to windows but I was hoping somebody could clarify why sliding sash aren't the most 'thermally efficient'. Even if the uvalue is good, is it that they aren't airtight or something? pardon my ignorance!:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭gears


    braftery wrote: »
    As far as i am aware most companies are not manufacturing their own uPVC sliding sash windows but are in fact buying them from a third party manufacturer here in Ireland.

    That is the reason you might find that there is no difference between the models.

    Sliding sash windows are not very thermally effecient and while there is always a small gain from using triple glazing it is pretty nominal with a uPVC sliding sash frame system.

    The only real difference between the suppliers you mentioned will probably be the quality of the install ... i would not vouch for either of them, although the franchise company has some very good franchisee reps .. the other larger firm does half the job of installing the windows and leaves it up to someone else to finish it.

    Better to buy a double glazed well installed window then a triple glazed badly installed one !


    I agree with most of this with one probably obvious exception the energy efficiency, there are some sliding sash out there which are A-Rated, I only know of one but there has to be more.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    gears wrote: »
    I agree with most of this with one probably obvious exception the energy efficiency, there are some sliding sash out there which are A-Rated, I only know of one but there has to be more.

    what constitutes A rated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 landel


    I'd appreciate a pm with recommendations also please?

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 harold40


    hi Gulliver
    Could you PM your info on your sliding sash windows at some point please.
    Doing a refurb of a 100 year old farmhouse

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭MissRibena


    I am looking at cream pvc sash too. Would love the info by pm also. Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭ml100


    MissRibena wrote: »
    I am looking at cream pvc sash too. Would love the info by pm also. Thanks

    Same here, cream or a dark colour, I see some companies are now offering triple glazed, anyone got them and what are they like?, (PM me the company please), I have to say vertical sliding sash is not my 1st choice but for the style of the house I haven't found an alternative that suites and doesn't look odd (farm house style GF windows to the front are 1.7x1 and FF are 1.4x1) , e.g. top half opening top hung etc, the frames of the triple glazed casement windows are wide which gives a big difference in the glazing size of the opening and non-opening half of the window.
    /m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭fatty pang


    Why oh why !
    The timber window industry, in conjunction with paint manufacturers, goes to considerable effort to try and provide a smooth, gloss like finish on windows (it stops dirt building up for one thing). The plastic window industry then offers textured ‘wood grain’ effect! It’s very rare to find hardwood sash windows – the majority were, for good reasons, made from softwood and painted for durability. 'Wood-grain' or whatever you want to call it, is just plain wrong on sash windows.


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