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TM RACING · 2011-01-05 10:38:25

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Take a look at these.;)
http://performancetopdrives.com/jackuprigs/

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#2 05-01-2011 1:44pm

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TM RACING wrote: »

Take a look at these.;)
http://performancetopdrives.com/jackuprigs/

Cool but unfortunately it is illegal to shoot from vehicle even one built for that purpose.

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#3 05-01-2011 2:04pm

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poulo6.5 wrote: »

Cool but unfortunately it is illegal to shoot from vehicle even one built for that purpose.

i dont think so, only from a road, or if the vehicle is moving

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#4 05-01-2011 2:05pm

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deerhunter1 wrote: »

i dont think so, only from a road, or if the vehicle is moving

Afraid not, not allowed to shoot from or off a vehicle on or off road.

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#5 05-01-2011 2:09pm

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if it is turned off and in a field not moving with no1 in drives seat i dont think it i illegal

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#6 05-01-2011 2:16pm

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Still is I'm afraid.

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#7 05-01-2011 6:16pm

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WELL IF THATS THE CASE HOW COME YOU CAN SHOOT DUCKS FROM A BOAT

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#8 05-01-2011 6:23pm

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terminator2 wrote: »

WELL IF THATS THE CASE HOW COME YOU CAN SHOOT DUCKS FROM A BOAT

I believe it needs to be moored. But, I am not 100% sure on that. Fairly sure you cannot shoot from a moving boat.

PS, knock off the CAPS LOCK please.

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#9 05-01-2011 6:26pm

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john is right lads, and its illegal to shoot from a moving boat

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#10 05-01-2011 6:43pm

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terminator2 wrote: »

WELL IF THATS THE CASE HOW COME YOU CAN SHOOT DUCKS FROM A BOAT

What you shouting for,:rolleyes: yes you can shoot from a moving boat, once the movement is not powered by an engine.

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#11 05-01-2011 6:56pm

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johngalway wrote: »

I believe it needs to be moored. But, I am not 100% sure on that. Fairly sure you cannot shoot from a moving boat.

PS, knock off the CAPS LOCK please.

sorry about the caps .......moor the car........legal

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#12 05-01-2011 7:06pm

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deerhunter1 wrote: »

once the movement is not powered by an engine.

That seems to be the case.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65492623&postcount=39

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#13 05-01-2011 7:09pm
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terminator2 wrote: »

sorry about the caps .......moor the car........legal

Originally Posted by Wildlife Act, Section 36

Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act apart from this section, a person shall not hunt or disturb for the purpose of hunting—
any wild animal by means of a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being so propelled or is stationary,

any wild bird by means of such a vehicle, vessel or aircraft, while it is being so propelled.

Notwithstanding subsection (1) of this section, a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft may be used to capture or kill, pursuant to and in accordance with a licence granted in that behalf by the Minister and for such educational, scientific or other purposes as are specified in the licence, wild birds or wild animals of a species so specified

shooting animals is different to birds, can't shoot animals from a vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being propelled or stationary, fox is an animal

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#14 05-01-2011 8:51pm

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You'd wonder why we have that law but it doesn't exist in england. I've seen Bucknell et al shoot from vehicles many a time. When ireland was founded as a state many of our laws were litterally cut and paste efforts from british legislature to our own.
I can understand why you couldn't shoot from a moving vehicle, but surely one that is stopped will give you a better firing position and rest from which to shoot.
If i read this correctly does it mean that you technically can not shoot whilst resting on the bonnet, door or cre cab of a vehicle or even from a quad?

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#15 05-01-2011 9:00pm

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One could argue that one is not hunting from a vehicle in this case.

One does not appear to be inside the vehicle, rather one would appear to be standing on top of it.

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#16 05-01-2011 9:11pm

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I'm afraid there would be very little if any loop holes in this one lads.

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#17 05-01-2011 9:34pm

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Pkiernan wrote: »

One could argue that one is not hunting from a vehicle in this case.

One does not appear to be inside the vehicle, rather one would appear to be standing on top of it.

"a person shall not hunt or disturb for the purpose of hunting—

1. any wild animal by means of a mechanically-propelled vehicle, vessel or aircraft, whether it is being so propelled or is stationary"

My interpretation is that you're still using the vehicle as a rest and shooting from the vehicle, so I would advise against it.

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#18 06-01-2011 9:43am

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deerhunter1 wrote: »

What you shouting for,:rolleyes: yes you can shoot from a moving boat, once the movement is not powered by an engine.

The general point here is correct but it is more inclusive than just an engine, so be careful. The Act states "mechanically propelled vehicle". God only knows what a judge who is not sympathetic to your sport deems a mechanically propelled vehicle to be. But the main point is correct as long as the boat is no being actively propelled then it seems ok

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#19 06-01-2011 3:41pm

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I think the phrase, “by means of”, is the key here but it would come down to your lawyer and the judges interpretation of it and I for one would not like to be the “Test Case”.

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#20 06-01-2011 6:33pm

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MACT1RE wrote: »

I think the phrase, “by means of”, is the key here but it would come down to your lawyer and the judges interpretation of it and I for one would not like to be the “Test Case”.

Well technically "the means" I use to hunt an animal is my rifle. I don't use a vehicle to hunt an animal, but as transport during a hunt. Interesting that the terminology in the act is so open to interperstation.

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#21 06-01-2011 6:46pm

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I would not be surprised if that interpretation haziness is on purpose.

Either way, better to be safe than sorry.

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#22 06-01-2011 6:52pm

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True, but it just doesn't make sense to me. A stationary vehicle would give you a more stable and elevated platform to engage targets in a safer manner then you could normally achieve from the ground. Therefor it would increase the safety factor of your shot as well as the ability to dispatch your quarry humanely.

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#23 06-01-2011 7:00pm

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Common sense, law, and justice are three different things

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#24 06-01-2011 7:05pm

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When I did my competency course I was told that transporting a gun without the use of a slip is illegal.

This could be said that if you have your weapon out in the open inside your vehicle with the engine is on or off then you are either intent on using it while moving, or you are willing to breach firearms legislation by not keeping the gun in a safe manner at all times. (Out of sight, and appropiately locked up)

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