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Bring back Pierce Brosnan As Bond

  • 03-01-2011 11:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭


    I would like everyone that reads this too spread the word and start a viral campaign to bring back Pierce Brosnan as bond.

    Cause he was cool and great as bond.

    Seen the matador recently and for years i thought it would be crap but have to say it was a brilliant film....

    You never know we could get Pierce BACK AS BOND.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Sorry, he was the last in a kitschy role of bond. Plus, I've lost all respect for him since he did Mamma Mia. Craig is a great bond, and puts a modern believable twist on a character who was ruined by invisible cars and stupid one liners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Carl Sagan


    He was the bond of my childhood, but having seen most films more recently, he's not the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    He had his place no doubt, and he reinvigorated the franchise with Goldeneye, just as Craig did with CR, I doubt you'll ever see Bond go back to the jetpack wearing, eyebrow raising one liners of the series' heyday, the grittier one is here to stay. The Bond franchise has Bourne to thank for its current direction, which made the gadget using spy look like a dinosaur.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,526 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Goldeneye was great and the one with Michell Yeoh (Tomorrow Never Dies?) was decent too, the others were pants enough. He was good at the aul one liners though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭randomchild


    He was a great bond no doubt, could have been the best by a mile if he got more movies of the caliber of goldeneye but at last it was not to be. Craig is doing fine, although if the next one is a dud like Quantum, he may lurch into the same abyss after Pierce's Bond.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭roboshatner


    The whole part of being bond is about the one liners.

    People love the one liners.

    Craig Sucks ass everyone knows that...

    But they can not replace him cause they can do not want to pay more money for another actor.

    They already went backrupt already so there is no way they will replace him even thou I would like them too.

    Clive owen is about the only person that would be great for bond.
    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Goldeneye was great and the one with Michell Yeoh (Tomorrow Never Dies?) was decent too, the others were pants enough. He was good at the aul one liners though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    The whole part of being bond is about the one liners.

    People love the one liners.

    Craig Sucks ass everyone knows that...

    But they can not replace him cause they can do not want to pay more money for another actor.

    They already went backrupt already so there is no way they will replace him even thou I would like them too.

    Clive owen is about the only person that would be great for bond.

    No they dont, the groans from the audience I saw TWINE with with the "christmas comes twice" line was evidence enough of that. Craig is the first Bond in ages who's written like Fleming intended, a cold hearted bastard who'd kill you as soon as look at you, not a quip delivery, martini drinking middle aged spy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Good as he may be his time as band is forever tarnished with some of the worst Bond films.

    GoldenEye was a cracker...but after that....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    I'd love for tarantino to do a bond rip-off starring brosnan.
    It could still happen....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I think there are enough Bond spoofs as is.

    Look for the TV series 'Archer'.
    Very funny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    patch wrote: »
    I'd love for tarantino to do a bond rip-off starring brosnan.
    It could still happen....

    Tarantino was supposed to be doing Casino Royale at one point, or at least expressed interest in it, it'd be different, give it that.

    It was Austin Powers that ruined the Bond franchise, it couldnt be taken seriously after those movies, and Bourne made audiences want something a bit more serious and gritty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    Never mind bring back Pierce, I want them to give it to Gerard Butler, bring back the Scottish vibe, and we know he can get in shape for the role. Some of his films have been a bit cheesy/rom-com, but I think he'd be tough as old boots as Bond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Keep Craig for one more. Let him make up for the shaky mess that was Quantum. Casino Royale remaiins one of the best movies I have ever seen.

    After that, let Tom Hardy step in. Suave incarnate! Somewhere inbetween Bronson & Inception!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I thought Brosnan was a great Bond (then again, I like them all in their own way), but Goldeneye was the only good film he was in. The others suffered from abysmal writing.

    Craig is a great Bond. As said above, he's more like the books. And although most people don't care about the books, it was great to have a change of pace rather than recycling the same type of story over and over again like the previous films did.

    what I'd like is an actually faithful adaptation of the books, set in the right time period and having Bond as the hateful, homophobic and sexist prick that he is in them. It would be great to see and would stop the series getting repetative and predictable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    I think I only enjoyed Casino Royale and QoS becuase they were not like other bond movies. The bond movies themselves were getting stale, they needed a change of direction and these two, taken as a whole, had a pretty good feel to them.

    Bond movies though are very expensive to make, so I would image they will look try to look at innovative ways of making an enjoyable movie without the massive look what we can do budget.

    When I saw Inception I also thought Tom Hardy would make a great bond but a part of me doesn't want him to get caught up in the whole bond mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    Pierce Brosnan did the best he could with the material, IMO. His Bond may have been a bit more corny than the Craig version, but he was written that way. Brosnan can be edgy, and at certain time in his Bond films - when you looked past the invisible cars, corny humour, etc - his Bond did seem dangerous. If he had been given a storyline and script like Casino Royale, he would have done brilliantly - he's a decent actor, as evidenced from the likes of The Matador, Thomas Crown Affair, Seraphim Falls, etc.

    But let's be honest - he's not coming back as Bond now. He's pushing 60 for crying out loud, hardly an age to come back to a movie franchise which relies heavily on stunts and action.

    Craig is doing a brilliant job anyway, and is playing the character as he was intended to be played. As for him 'sucking ass'? Please, go read the reviews. Pretty much everyone thought he was great so far.

    If they do decide to go for a new Bond actor, Henry Cavill is my number one choice for the role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Keep Craig for one more. Let him make up for the shaky mess that was Quantum. Casino Royale remaiins one of the best movies I have ever seen.

    After that, let Tom Hardy step in. Suave incarnate! Somewhere inbetween Bronson & Inception!

    QoS is a strange beast in thats its the first proper sequel in the Bond franchise, picking up minutes after CR, it works much better when watched directly after Royale, I wasnt too impressed with it when I first saw it but I love it now. Bond has become bitter and more mysoginistic than he was in the the first and its with good reason. Also the opening is fantastic between the Audi V DB9 chase and the footchase across the rooftops.

    Cr had one of the best theme songs ever as well, love the opening credits to that, wondre who they're gonna get to do the next theme song, I'd love Muse to do it, they'd rock the sh1t out of a Bond song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    krudler wrote: »
    Cr had one of the best theme songs ever as well, love the opening credits to that, wondre who they're gonna get to do the next theme song, I'd love Muse to do it, they'd rock the sh1t out of a Bond song.

    And to be fair, you'd expect them to love doing one as well!

    Quantum wasn't terrible by any means. I'm not a massive Bond fan, I just went in to that with high levels of expectations (Damn You Casino!!!). I'd still rate Quantum above a lot of other Bond movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    And to be fair, you'd expect them to love doing one as well!

    Quantum wasn't terrible by any means. I'm not a massive Bond fan, I just went in to that with high levels of expectations (Damn You Casino!!!). I'd still rate Quantum above a lot of other Bond movies.

    Definitely, its certainly not as good as CR but its leagues ahead of stuff like Die Another Day (one of, if not the worst Bond movies) and some of Moore's outings.

    I still think Timothy Dalton is the most underrated Bond ever, he was doing the "dark,gritty" Bond 20 years before Craig, Licence To Kill is an 80s action revenge movie wrapped in a Bond franchise. Some incredible stunts in it as well, the opening plane stunt and the waterskiing with no waterskis being great examples, and the stuff with the trucks in the finale is fantastic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Pierce was prepared to Bond again, he loved the role, but he'll probably never go back now, it has moved on.

    I thought he was great.

    I think Craig in now great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    krudler wrote: »
    I still think Timothy Dalton is the most underrated Bond ever, he was doing the "dark,gritty" Bond 20 years before Craig, Licence To Kill is an 80s action revenge movie wrapped in a Bond franchise. Some incredible stunts in it as well, the opening plane stunt and the waterskiing with no waterskis being great examples, and the stuff with the trucks in the finale is fantastic.

    Had a mate who used to take this piss out of Dalton because he was a lot more aggressive than Craig.

    To Craig "Shaken or stirred?"
    "Does it look like I care?"

    To Dalton "Shaken or stirred?"
    "JUST GIVE ME THE F*CKING DRINK!!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    And to be fair, you'd expect them to love doing one as well!

    Quantum wasn't terrible by any means. I'm not a massive Bond fan, I just went in to that with high levels of expectations (Damn You Casino!!!). I'd still rate Quantum above a lot of other Bond movies.

    I'm not so sure about that,

    I'd have goldeneye above QOS myself, are they still making another Bond? I remember Reading about how it had stalled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    ziedth wrote: »
    I'd have goldeneye above QOS myself, are they still making another Bond? I remember Reading about how it had stalled.
    On November 3, 2010, MGM filed for bankruptcy. 5% of the company's assets are to be acquired by Spyglass Entertainment, but it is currently unknown if the James Bond rights are included in that deal.

    It stalled as MGM ran out of money, it was expected to be part of the new funding ~ I'd personally be surprised if it was not, but it's not my money. As I understood, the production was at a stage whereby it could be continued with, film production is broken to location/studio/editing, once one is complete [location] the rest can be completed later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭roboshatner


    there was talk of it but tarantino wanted to do casino
    patch wrote: »
    I'd love for tarantino to do a bond rip-off starring brosnan.
    It could still happen....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 CornWallises38


    Sorry, he was the last in a kitschy role of bond. Plus, I've lost all respect for him since he did Mamma Mia. Craig is a great bond, and puts a modern believable twist on a character who was ruined by invisible cars and stupid one liners.

    Watch ,"The Ghost Writer" it'll change that negative opinion of Brosnan completely. Although Brosnan's screen time in the film was limited he certainly made the most of it, he was probably the best thing about that movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭roboshatner


    Criag is terrible the worst bond ever.

    I loved all the bonds expect him.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=35422373236

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/celebritygossip/2010/02/pierce-brosnan-still-wants-to-be-james-bond.html Good Interview

    Anyone that has matador its a whopper film and he still has got it.

    Roll on the sequel.

    I mean he does a scene in a speedo and a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. brillant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    It's all subjective. There's people who say Connery was the best bond. He wasn't, he was just the template.

    For my money, Dalton was the best, followed by Craig, Then Connery, Brosnan & wassisname from OHMSS & then Moore. Moore ironically is my least favourite bond who stars in my alltime favourite bond movie TSWLM. Even with a car/submarine & a razor toothed badguy, That movie had it all without getting to the insane levels of diamond encrusted badguys & invisible cars. I'd love to see that one remade.

    Daniel Craig should at least be allowed to take it for one more spin before being replaced. Ideally with an original story & helmed by Tarintino.

    The original Connery movies up to Goldfinger (when the gadgets really started appearing) are the most comparable with the more recent outings. It's the gadgets that detract from the films. The odd thing is ok, but we really don't need to keep them at the levels they were supposed to be at.

    Incidentally I know someone who interviewed Brosnan shortly before production on CR & he told them the original script opening scene had him sitting in Ms office being berated by M, a door opens & in walks Craig & M says to Brosnan "You're retired. This is the new 007". Would have been a great opener, tying the all movies together. This way you get the excuse that James Bond: 007 is a nom-deplume taken on by the agent elevated to that role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Joeyjoejoe83


    I think someone posted a great idea here, a Bond set back when he was conceived, imagine a don draper type sexist cold hearted bastard running around in the 30/40/50s. I think with the success of mad men it would be brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    all the gadgets and one liners made the bond films though. whats a bond film without cool gadgets and using your imagination.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    Sean Connery is the one true Bond IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Incidentally I know someone who interviewed Brosnan shortly before production on CR & he told them the original script opening scene had him sitting in Ms office being berated by M, a door opens & in walks Craig & M says to Brosnan "You're retired. This is the new 007". Would have been a great opener, tying the all movies together. This way you get the excuse that James Bond: 007 is a nom-deplume taken on by the agent elevated to that role.

    I always liked that concept that Bond is a name taken by agents, like Bourne's names isnt his real one.

    I agree Dalton is one of the best Bonds, its a pity he didnt get more than two movies as he was really finding his feet with the character by Licence To Kill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Criag is terrible the worst bond ever.

    Even over Lazenby? who ironically was in one of he best Bond movies, he just wasnt very good in it. OHMSS is brilliant, and its got one of the best endings of any of he Bond movies, can you imagine Connery crying over the woman at the end? not a chance.

    I grew up watching the Moore ones (thanks to ITV's yearly run of them) and as he gets older it gets more cringy watching a man hitting on women young enough to be his granddaughter. I like Moore, hes very funny in interviews and apparently an absolute gent but he did what he could with the silly material, TSWLM is fcuking awesome though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Cole


    I never understand the argument about certain actors making Bond more believable. There is nothing believable about James Bond, it's pure fantasy.
    At least Roger Moore got the joke with his tongue in cheek performances, having a bit of fun with it.

    Brosnan does the suave, sophisticated Bond very well, but he's so dull. I prefer Craig.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Goldeneye was the best of the more modern Bond films. Brosnan was great as Bond but the plots/villains/gadgets etc were awful in the rest of the films he did. Daniel Craigs Bond is terrible, a miserable b*****d moping his way through two films. Not Craigs fault, just the way it's written.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,526 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    iMax wrote: »
    Incidentally I know someone who interviewed Brosnan shortly before production on CR & he told them the original script opening scene had him sitting in Ms office being berated by M, a door opens & in walks Craig & M says to Brosnan "You're retired. This is the new 007". Would have been a great opener, tying the all movies together. This way you get the excuse that James Bond: 007 is a nom-deplume taken on by the agent elevated to that role.

    That kind of reminds of me of the old Casino Royale with Peter Sellers wher everyone is named Bond or something.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    To be honest, the Craig films only proved to me that the franchise is a creative dead-end and has gone long past its sell-by-date. By about 20 years. Granted, his version may have been a closer fit to the actual source material (and I always found it amazing the number of Bond fans who seem to ignore the fact that Bond is, from the books, a total a-hole), but the manner in which they jettisoned so much of the baggage struck me as panic rather than some slick creative decision. As if the producers were saying to each other: "Crap, the punters seem to like shakey-cam Bourne; all moody and expressions of constipation. Let's go with that".

    Suddenly all our action heroes have to be tortured souls; all dark, moody & carrying some tragic mental baggage. In this, some of Casino Royale's dialogue was exceptionally bad, especially between Craig & Eva Green. The "Shaken or Stirred / does it look like I give a damn" line in particular was just ... bad.

    The best Bond though? Probably the version depicted by Alan Moore in his graphic novel The League of Extraordinary Gentleman: The Black Dossier. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    That kind of reminds of me of the old Casino Royale with Peter Sellers wher everyone is named Bond or something.

    ah peter sellers...what a man :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭SB-08


    Brosnan was a very good Bond - probably overall the best aside from Connery. He just wan't quite convincing enough in terms of being tough etc but had more charisma in his finger than Craig his in his whole body. Craig is far more convincing when it comes to the action though, but really lacks charisma and style. People say he is the closest to the books but Casino Royal and QoS just don't seem like Bond films. Far too influenced by Bourne and other modern American action thrillers.

    After the awful Die Another Day the franchise seriously needed to be changed and it was with Casino Royal. It was a very good film but felt far too separate from previous films imo. QoS was utterly appalling in every possible way. All the ingredients that make for a good Bond were lost in this monstrosity of a film. No matter how bad Die Another Day and to a lesser extent Tomorrow Never Dies were - at least they were entertaining. QoS was beyond awful and watching paint dry would have been time better spent.

    Goldenye and Casino Royal were both very good films and significant in terms of shaking things up when they had previously got stale but the quality doesn't appear to stay strong. The writers just get lazy as evident from DAD and QoS.

    I think Brosnan is too old now but personally I think unless the next Bond film is a MASSIVE improvement on QoS then they should give Clive Owen or perhaps Tom Hardy the role and get a big name Director like Scorsese or Mann to get things back on track.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    krudler wrote: »
    I agree Dalton is one of the best Bonds, its a pity he didnt get more than two movies as he.

    ...thought the role immature and childish and it was he who wanted out. He also expressed some disappointment that the role he signed up for was continuing on as cartoon comic piece.

    I think he took the role very seriously and he does look a bit out of character with in his Bond Movies, a character that Brosnan filled nicely [ie a bit of comic acting to go with the comic production].

    If we ever make an adult Bond Film, Timothy would be an excellent choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    That silly blond lad needs to be axed. No Bond is he!

    Dalton and Brosnan were pretty good in recent years. Perhaps its time for a new actor altogether though.

    Any suggestions?

    To get the ball rolling:

    Colin Farrell


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    enda1 wrote: »
    Colin Farrell

    Not for me. He's made too much of a recent career ~ maybe in another ten years. He's played Bond type roles already so I can see some potential.

    At one time I'd have loved Tom Cruise to have played Bond, but he's now MI ~ might have made a good bond with the right sense of mischief and boyish charm {like Brosnan had].


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    gbee wrote: »
    Not for me. He's made too much of a recent career ~ maybe in another ten years. He's played Bond type roles already so I can see some potential.

    At one time I'd have loved Tom Cruise to have played Bond, but he's now MI ~ might have made a good bond with the right sense of mischief and boyish charm {like Brosnan had].

    Maybe in a few years alright. But never an American! That would be just wrong.

    (Probably shouldn't be Irish either due to whole "Her Majesty's Secret Service" bit, but I'll let it slide)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    enda1 wrote: »
    But never an American! That would be just wrong.

    Actually you're 100% right, what was I thinking! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Wouldnt both me where the actor who played Bond was from, theres only been two English Bonds anyway, Roger Moore and Daniel Craig. Connery is Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Dalton is Welsh, Brosnan is Irish. Doesnt matter where hes from.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Brosnan had, what 2 good Bond pictures, Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough, the rest, Die Another Day and Tomorrow Never Dies were dreadful.
    So far Craig has had one great Bond movie, Casino Royale and one ok one, Quantum of Solace.
    The only reason we haven't another is the crap with MGM and their finances.
    If Craig hadn't been such a revelation, a great Bond in the traditional mode would have been Dougray Scott, and he should have been but Brosnan got another shot in the franchise with the awful Die Another Day.


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