Edwards LP 98 LTS or Gibson Std

fguihen

Richtone music can do the Edwards 98LTS inc case and shipping for 1012 euros all in.

http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/products/esp_edwards_e-lp-98lts_electric_guitar_vintage_honey_burst.asp

Adverts has a gibson LP Standard up for a shade more, 1200 euros:

http://www.adverts.ie/guitar-bass/gibson-les-paul-standard-faded/387372


I know the edwards is an awesome guitar, consistent quality and good looking, but it doesnt have the gibson label, and the flame is a 1cm veneer rather than a full flame maple top. shouldnt make a difference to sound, but would be an issue for some.

Which would You guys go for, and why?

darrenw5094

Hmmm.....Edwards LP are not as cheap as they used to be, but still decent value minus the hardcase. The Gibson LP Standard Faded were about €1400 in store, so €1200 might be a tad high for a used one, although it might hold it's value better than the Edwards.

I was tempted by Richtone recently with a Tokai LP Standard LS80 for around €730 shipped here, which is another option.:)

Or buy both.:)

fguihen

both! not likely!

I thought over 1k (not far under it without case) is quite expensive for a japaneese copy. I know they are supposed to be great quality, but with a low resale value I dont know if its worth the asking.

On searching ebay though, Richtone's prices are almost as good as if i imported it myself and paid shipping and import duty.

goblin59

you can buy edwards first hand from http://myworld.ebay.com/meestursparkle/

i purchased my ibanez j-custom off this seller last year and i know another person who has also bought from this seller.

One thing i have learnt though is that alot of gibsons these days even though they mightnt say on the package is that theyr all semi-hollow, im not sure of the reason for this, whether its to save on money while still selling at the same high price, or to cut down on weight.

I'v played an edwards alexis laiho before and they play exceptionally well,
so would be more inclined to go towards them.

nickcave

Hmm... That's a lot for the Edwards. The Yen is strong a the moment, as is the Pound Sterling, hence the price. There's a 98-LTS in cherry burst on ishibahsi's u-box now which would cost you about €600-650 shipped and taxed. Not sure there's any point in paying over a grand for an Edwards. You could almost find a Navigator for that money.

As for the Gibson, that's also a lot of money for what you get, and second hand at that. If you could get something significant off the asking price then it might be worth going for it.

By the way, this might not be important but I think the Jazz/JB combination in the Edwards would sound quite a bit different to the Burstbuckers in the Gibson. Maybe someone else could tell you more about that. I own an Edwards LP and they've definitely got their own sound.

darrenw5094

The more i think about it, the more i would say the Edwards is slightly overpriced. If you could get the Gibson Faded for closer to 1k, that might be the answer, with the hard case included.

Tokai LP Standard with a flame top, would be the same price as the Edwards, but it would be a great guitar. I have the Tokai LP LS80 and they are great quality.

fuzztone

fguihen wrote: »

Which would You guys go for, and why?

Out of those two I would go for the Edwards. Reasons being the Edwards has hardware I would consider to be superior (Gotoh and Seymour Duncan) and I just dont like the look of the faded Les Paul Standards.

If I was buying a Les Paul I'd also look at older Tokai, Grecos and Burnys. The earlier MIJ models are easily on par with anything Gibson have put out and there are plenty of bargains to be had. Heres a mid 80s Burny LPC I picked up a few weeks back for a pretty good price. Besides some gold worn off the hardware it looks brand new, and the frets ends are bound just like on a Gibson Les Paul Custom. The pickups aren't original and suck pretty bad tbh but I have a proper set of gold humbuckers en-route:

RICARDO1982

I have the Edwards "John Sykes" and it plays like a dream, I think the Edwards guitars quality is great, not hit and miss like Gibson seems to be. The odd one comes up for sale on adverts and gumtree i would recommend you try one out.

Thomas from Presence

You know my thoughts on this Fintan. That price for a Gibson is suspiciously low and the Edwards is too steep.

Keep an eye out for a cheaper Edwards/Burny/Orville or start saving €4k for a proper Les Paul!

darrenw5094

Thomas from Presence wrote: »

start saving €4k for a proper Les Paul!

Jaysus. 4K.

Squidgy Black

Thomas from Presence wrote: »

You know my thoughts on this Fintan. That price for a Gibson is suspiciously low and the Edwards is too steep.

Keep an eye out for a cheaper Edwards/Burny/Orville or start saving €4k for a proper Les Paul!

You're joking right? Standards go for in and around 1200-1600 second hand all the time, no standard's 4k.

4k's the price of a custom shop, not a standard...

eagle10

I myself would go for the gibson.
You wont lose money if you ever do sell on the guitar.
Even if you buy the edwards you may always want a "real" gibson.
You could try the gibson if you dont like it you can leave it, you could buy the edwards without trying it and it may not be for you.

Whatever you decide to do I hope you love the guitar

Ravelleman

I would more than probably go for the Edwards, even though their Made in Japan status is rather dubious. The idea of the faded nitro finish of the Gibson never really appealed to me. That being said the 'Lacquer Taste' series of guitars, are, as I understand it, just finished with a thin coat of nitro over a poly base.

I'm not really a nitro fan anyway to be honest. I always find it too sticky. The main thing that I like about it though is how it ages organically over time. The same can't really be said about poly. I love the my Gretsch Annie but it'll never age like the old ones!

I am rather a fan of Gotoh hardware as well. My Fernandes Ravelle has keystone style tuners and they're rock solid.

Personally, I think I'd go for the black p90 LP Custom. I think the best value is in that one.

I'd take the risk. Most people seem to like their Edwards.

Thomas from Presence

stetyrrell wrote: »

You're joking right? Standards go for in and around 1200-1600 second hand all the time, no standard's 4k.

4k's the price of a custom shop, not a standard...

Yep. That was the joke. Personally I have not seen a standard made in the last 15 years worth 1200-1600 in a world where Japanese guitars that are at least on a par are available for much less.

Gibson custom shop still has the magic but the prices are somewhat off putting.

spoonbadger

eagle10 wrote: »

Even if you buy the edwards you may always want a "real" gibson.

This is a bit silly, any guitar is no more a "real" guitar than any other. In fact, a gibson is probably further from an original, proper Les Paul than the edwards. The edwards will at least have a long neck tenon and solid mahogany body, as opposed to a gibson, which will have the usual gibson cheap-ass short tenon and a body that's drilled to bits to keep weight down as a consequence of using cheap, heavy mahogany.

nickcave

spoonbadger wrote: »

This is a bit silly, any guitar is no more a "real" guitar than any other. In fact, a gibson is probably further from an original, proper Les Paul than the edwards. The edwards will at least have a long neck tenon and solid mahogany body, as opposed to a gibson, which will have the usual gibson cheap-ass short tenon and a body that's drilled to bits to keep weight down as a consequence of using cheap, heavy mahogany.

Word.

Gibson manufacture guitars with different people using different materials in a different location to the "real" Les Paul (the '59). The Kalamazoo factory is run by Heritage now. On top of that, the company itself has changed hands on numerous occasions, including very recently.

Now I don't agree with the idea, but there are many companies making guitars which approximate a golden era Les Paul, the current incarnation of Gibson being just one of them. As far as that endeavour is concerned, I wouldn't say Gibson come out on top, certainly not with their Standard model, for reasons spoonbadger mentions.