Ford Fiesta 2000 Zetec alarm HELP!

Keey

Hoping someone will be able to help me with my dilemma.... locked the car with the alarm key (i.e set the alarm) which i then lost. i have the spare key which doesn't have the function to disable the alarm. Obviously if i open the door using that key the alarm will go off. Anyone know how long it is likely to go off for, will i be able to deactivate it? or is there are more permanent method to disable the alarm? Relucatant to just open the car with it and risk annoying all my neighbours with a persistant alarm until the battery dies. All suggestions appreciated!!

colm1234

try open the door with the key, pop the bonnet disconnect the battery for 5 mins or so, reconnect and that should do the trick but be quick as dont wanna piss off the neighbours

bazz26

Really depends on how sophisticated the alarm is in the car. Some will continue to go off until the battery dies, others will go off for 5 mins, go silent and go off for 5 mins again until it is disarmed by the fob. Most aftermarket alarms have a manual override either via a small key that is put into the alarm control unit under the bonnet or somewhere else in the car where the installer placed it.

Just be aware even if you have the key to get into the car, it may not start the car even with the alarm sounding as the alarm maybe tied into the car's immobiliser. The alarm may need to be switched off/disabled to allow the car to be started.

andyseadog

dont most good alarms have their own seperate battery so that if the battery is disconnected it still rings for 'x' amount of time.

also if the alarm is connected to the immobiliser, even if you open the car and get the alarm to shut up it still wont start.

bazz26

Yep I would imagine so, a bit pointless if all a would be car thief had to do is pop the bonnet and disconnect the battery to shut it off.

andyseadog

@bazz26, sorry we must have been writing at the same time, looks like i just read your comment and re-wrote it lol

colm1234

i did this on a honda crx worked just fine its worth a try whats the worst that could happen :rolleyes: as for having second battery for the alarm not too sure about that dont seem much point in that. id give it a try and worst comes to worst and the alarm stays on when you reconnect the battery well just leave it disconnected until you get a new fob from your dealer

colm1234

bazz26 wrote: »

Yep I would imagine so, a bit pointless if all a would be car thief had to do is pop the bonnet and disconnect the battery to shut it off.

you really think a car thief will wait around to break into the car pop the bonnet, unbolt the battery wait five minutes then hop back in to hot wire it ???

MagicMarker

colm1234 wrote: »

i did this on a honda crx worked just fine its worth a try whats the worst that could happen :rolleyes:

The alarm could go off all night?

Keey

Thanks for the replies everyone. I can't be sure but i'm fairly certain its a manufacturers alarm. Really not sure what to do. I'm trying to avoid having to get a mechanic call out. Just realised this might not be the correct forum for this post - not 'advanced' query enough - sri.

colm1234

this place should be called argue.ie not boards why dont people just think of ways to help the person in question instead of pointing out the floors in other peoples answers, if we all used our time to help out the world would be a lot nicer place

colm1234

MagicMarker wrote: »

The alarm could go off all night?

hows that with the battery disconnected all night

bazz26

colm1234 wrote: »

you really think a car thief will wait around to break into the car pop the bonnet, unbolt the battery wait five minutes then hop back in to hot wire it ???

Unlikely but still possible. Most folks pay very little attention to alarms these days anyway unless they are going off for hours and they tend to be annoyed why it isn't being switched off rather than why it is going off in the first place. But that is a different subject.

MagicMarker

colm1234 wrote: »

hows that with the battery disconnected all night

You don't know if the alarm has it's own battery/back up battery. I'm just telling you the worst that can happen.

andyseadog

colm1234 wrote: »

hows that with the battery disconnected all night

car alarms, just like house alarms have a battery built into them so even if the main power supply is disconnected it will still work.

otherwise, it would be a seriously flawed item

colm1234

snip the wires then you all just gunna keep arguing or help her out ?

MagicMarker

colm1234 wrote: »

snip the wires then you all just gunna keep arguing or help her out ?

Snip what wires? Where? Should the OP just go snipping random wires in his/her car?

People are helping, they're pointing out the risks involved if the OP were to follow your advice. No one is arguing with you.

colm1234

1Check for user error. Consult the owner's manual for directions on how to turn the car alarm on and off.
2
Put the key in the ignition and try to start the car. On many systems this will shut off the alarm.
3
Find the alarm's fuse. It may be in the fuse box, usually located below the steering wheel to the left. Many cars also have other fuse boxes (sometimes three or even more) inside the engine compartment. If it's an aftermarket alarm (installed after the car left the factory), you'll find the fuse under the hood, usually on a wire connected to the positive battery terminal.
4
Locate the fuse that has the alarm label. You should find a fuse diagram on the lid of the fuse box. An aftermarket alarm won't have any label. Don't worry; removing the wrong fuse won't cause any damage. If you pull out a fuse and the alarm stays on, put that fuse back in and try another.
5
Pull the alarm fuse with the fuse puller (sometimes found in the fuse box) or a pair of needle-nose pliers. Sometimes you can remove a fuse using your fingers.
6
As a last resort, disconnecting the battery's negative terminal will stop the alarm, but it will also keep your car from starting


Read more: How to Shut Off a Car Alarm That Won't Quit | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_112650_shut-car-alarm.html#ixzz19nSMthFJ

andyseadog

colm1234 wrote: »

snip the wires then you all just gunna keep arguing or help her out ?

snip the wires? i hope thats sarcasm

colm1234

jesus ya that was a joke hope she aint gone out wit the scissors hacking away at her car lol

andyseadog

i was thinking about hijacking this thread.

my cars outside with the alarm stuck on, ive been stewing over what decision to make all day.

its a clifford aftermarket unit... hmmmmmmmm

colm1234

andyseadog wrote: »

i was thinking about hijacking this thread.

my cars outside with the alarm stuck on, ive been stewing over what decision to make all day.

its a clifford aftermarket unit... hmmmmmmmm

i had same on the crx clifford one day it just went mental so i just disconnected the battery as stated above, was a class alarm system let the windows up an down also had remote engine start on it too

jimmyw

I would guess that if you put in the spare key in the drivers door and turn it to the unlock position it should switch it off.Some cars need the remote to set the alarm on and off only, and others can be set with the key.By the way the mk 6 fiesta can be done by the latter.