PNY GTX 460 OC

Dublin_Gunner

Well my shiny new GTX 460 arrived!

Only had in installed, and gave it a quick boost to 810 core, 1620 shaders, and 1025 Mem (4100 effective).

Time for benchmarks!

1st up, 3D Mark 11

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Bare in mind the CPU tests make a huge different in 3D Mark 11, so taking that into consideration, here's my specs:

AMD Phenom II x3 720BE @3.5Ghz
4GB DDR II @800
PNY GTX 460OC @ 810 core, 1620 shaders, and 1025 Mem (4100 effective).

On Win 7 Ult x64 with 263.14 drivers.

If I had a faster CPU & Ram, the score would jump a fair bit, plus, there's a LOT more overclocking in this card. Seriously. It doesn't break a sweat at that OC.

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Playing BC2 @ 19x10, everything maxed, 8xCSAA & 16x AF I get roughly 50-60FPS nearly constantly.

I'll do some more throughout the day, maybe 3D Mark Vantage & Unigine Heaven.

Next - Unigine Heaven Benchmark

Settings: DX11, Tesselation: Normal, 4xAF, no AA, 1920x1080

Average FPS: 37.4
Score: 941

challengemaster

Looks bloody good and you have me excited to get back and play with mine! (my card, before anyone gets the wrong end of that stick :pac:)

Looks like you're definitely being CPU limited on 3dmark11, but still a fairly good result!

Funny, actually, when I was looking up reviews of the card, the only thing stopping it from being overclocked more was the software...it maxed out with 2 different ones (nTune (or whatever it is now) & MSI afterburner)

Hank Scorpio

Push it up to 1.087v in MSI afterburner and you should be able to get close to 900mhz on the core(mines currently at 875). Thats the max stock voltage so its not dangerous or anything.

You can flash the bios too, seen people using 1.21v and having there cards basically on 1000mhz on the core!

Mine came at exactly 1 volt(asus) stock, but alot of them seem to ship at 0.97v, or something similar.

Dublin_Gunner

nuxxx wrote: »

Push it up to 1.087v in MSI afterburner and you should be able to get close to 900mhz on the core(mines currently at 875). Thats the max stock voltage so its not dangerous or anything.

You can flash the bios too, seen people using 1.21v and having there cards basically on 1000mhz on the core!

Mine came at exactly 1 volt(asus) stock, but alot of them seem to ship at 0.97v, or something similar.

Yeah I havent pushed it at all.

Stock voltage is 0.975 on mine, and havent changed it to get the current OC, and its rock solid stable. Runs cool anyway, so I'll defo push it further.

Will do a bit more OCing on it, and run a few benches and post the results.

dwighet

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Yeah I havent pushed it at all.

Stock voltage is 0.975 on mine, and havent changed it to get the current OC, and its rock solid stable. Runs cool anyway, so I'll defo push it further.

Will do a bit more OCing on it, and run a few benches and post the results.

you know you want to!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU

Dublin_Gunner

dwighet wrote: »

you know you want to!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU

lol


Just ran it to 850/1700/4100 with 1v to ensure stability and recorded

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Now thats more like it!!

dwighet

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

lol


Just ran it to 850/1700/4100 with 1v to ensure stability and recorded

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Now thats more like it!!

im just jealous.... just built a new rig and bought a 6870 and cant mess with the voltage on it. but xfire will sort that out... Im kind of like pushing things to the max..... just ask my Mrs:eek:

Dublin_Gunner

Ok, 3D Mark Vantage

P18601 (using GPU for Physx)

GPU =15823.44

850/1700/4100

Using CPU for PhysX:

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GPU = 15749.99 (roughly same in both runs)

Hank Scorpio

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/331908?show_ads=true&page=%2F3dm11%2F331908%3Fkey%3DvrWb7cUe2X4hu0NBAAAB930wvCPxnj

Theres mine fwiw running @ 875 on the core

Not sure why others with the same setup as me, or weaker ones are getting higher scores. I guess they must be running ssds or have better memory.

Dublin_Gunner

nuxxx wrote: »

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/331908?show_ads=true&page=%2F3dm11%2F331908%3Fkey%3DvrWb7cUe2X4hu0NBAAAB930wvCPxnj

Theres mine fwiw running @ 875 on the core

Not sure why others with the same setup as me, or weaker ones are getting higher scores. I guess they must be running ssds or have better memory.

CPU, CPU speed, drivers, memory etc all play a part.

What voltage you runnin it at?

Hank Scorpio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

CPU, CPU speed, drivers, memory etc all play a part.

What voltage you runnin it at?

1.087, i dont think its worth flashing the bios for an extra 5 fps, too risky

challengemaster

You should be able to get 900 core clock @ 1.087mV

Dublin_Gunner

challengemaster wrote: »

You should be able to get 900 core clock @ 1.087mV

Not every gf104 will OC to 900mhz stable.

Nuxx - defo wouldn't bother flashing it. if 875 is stable, that's plenty for any game out there (apart from maybe metro 2033 lol)

Hank Scorpio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Not every gf104 will OC to 900mhz stable.

Nuxx - defo wouldn't bother flashing it. if 875 is stable, that's plenty for any game out there (apart from maybe metro 2033 lol)

Ye, the class thing is they scale incredibly well, 460s in sli => alot of high end gpus

challengemaster

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Not every gf104 will OC to 900mhz stable.

Nuxx - defo wouldn't bother flashing it. if 875 is stable, that's plenty for any game out there (apart from maybe metro 2033 lol)

True :P

I'm finally home, and i'll have mine installed by tomorrow hopefully... few things to do first

challengemaster

Er... Am I right in thinking there's a small issue here?

Hank Scorpio

challengemaster wrote: »

Er... Am I right in thinking there's a small issue here?

Yes lol. What core speed is gpuz reporting?

challengemaster

A more normal 765/925/1530

Hank Scorpio

challengemaster wrote: »

A more normal 765/925/1530

You could download asus smartdoctor and see what its reporting, thats strange though

Dublin_Gunner

get a new version of afterburner. youre using a fairly old build

challengemaster

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

get a new version of afterburner. youre using a fairly old build

Aha! Funnily enough, twas like the 2nd or 3rd google result! :rolleyes:

challengemaster

Funny...Here's the comparison between myself and Dublin_Gunner's 3DMark11

http://3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/347843/3dm11/329590

Looks like PhysX and Combined (ie. processor involved) is where my bottleneck is

Also, just did far cry 2 benchmark

1440x900 @60Hz
Dx10 everything set to high

* Average Framerate: 42.06
* Max. Framerate: 64.48
* Min. Framerate: 28.55

Dublin_Gunner

challengemaster wrote: »

Funny...Here's the comparison between myself and Dublin_Gunner's 3DMark11

http://3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/347843/3dm11/329590

Looks like PhysX and Combined (ie. processor involved) is where my bottleneck is

Also, just did far cry 2 benchmark

1440x900 @60Hz
Dx10 everything set to high

* Average Framerate: 42.06
* Max. Framerate: 64.48
* Min. Framerate: 28.55

You used my early result. Use the one I did at 850Mhz like yours.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/330905

challengemaster

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

You used my early result. Use the one I did at 850Mhz like yours.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/330905

Sorry

http://3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/330905/3dm11/347843

Same thing, though! Graphics tests are pretty much identical. It's the processor related ones where you win

Hank Scorpio

challengemaster wrote: »

Funny...Here's the comparison between myself and Dublin_Gunner's 3DMark11

http://3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/347843/3dm11/329590

Looks like PhysX and Combined (ie. processor involved) is where my bottleneck is

Also, just did far cry 2 benchmark

1440x900 @60Hz
Dx10 everything set to high

* Average Framerate: 42.06
* Max. Framerate: 64.48
* Min. Framerate: 28.55

Deffo cpu bottleneck @ far cry 2. I get like 85 fps average @ 1080p on ultra high settings.

Dublin_Gunner

well it shows that 3d mark 11 is definitely not cpu bound even at low res, unlike fc2.

my extra core and 400mhz do make a difference. funnily i would have thought id win the gfx tests by a greater margin. so this must show driver differences as well as the core 2's power to feed a gpu

visco

Just received mine today, hopefully the rest of the parts will come by Monday and i shall post my results when i put the whole rig together

visco

Well, finally received my PSU and put together my whole rig.

Here is the score with everything at stock clocks:

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/396231;jsessionid=ECF9540090A3DD425918C30777B0CA7C?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/396231%3Fkey%3DtU6q4KMJCjXLhdwAjw5SDVy0bjhfRM

And here it is after some over-clocking:

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/397313;jsessionid=54BEF3BC8DD7FB73E4A552865F8C1DF7?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/397313%3Fkey%3DtVmt7FcHP48EpmmX0WDstRUBVcePEr

And GPU clocked at what seems most people use here at 850/1700/2000:
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/397408;jsessionid=AFF07035864003ED98D4050E02019AC7?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/397408%3Fkey%3DQeNJy6EHCQdwC8hJ7pUSUZzX0q5aC9

A hefty increase in performance i reckon.

darconio

So I was persuaded by this post and by the bargain price of this card and I went for it.
Very impressed so far, I've been an Nvidia junkie for ages now, the only problem is the scaling issue on the latest drivers, hopefully it will be soon fixed

Dublin_Gunner

visco wrote: »

Well, finally received my PSU and put together my whole rig.

Here is the score with everything at stock clocks:

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/396231;jsessionid=ECF9540090A3DD425918C30777B0CA7C?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/396231%3Fkey%3DtU6q4KMJCjXLhdwAjw5SDVy0bjhfRM

And here it is after some over-clocking:

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/397313;jsessionid=54BEF3BC8DD7FB73E4A552865F8C1DF7?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/397313%3Fkey%3DtVmt7FcHP48EpmmX0WDstRUBVcePEr

And GPU clocked at what seems most people use here at 850/1700/2000:
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/397408;jsessionid=AFF07035864003ED98D4050E02019AC7?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/397408%3Fkey%3DQeNJy6EHCQdwC8hJ7pUSUZzX0q5aC9

A hefty increase in performance i reckon.

Nice score, the OC'd quad really makes a difference. I only get 3500~ with my x3 at 3.5

darconio wrote: »

So I was persuaded by this post and by the bargain price of this card and I went for it.
Very impressed so far, I've been an Nvidia junkie for ages now, the only problem is the scaling issue on the latest drivers, hopefully it will be soon fixed

Scaling? Did you get 2 for SLI?

darconio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Scaling? Did you get 2 for SLI?

I probably didn't use the correct terminology, apologies if that is the case.

What I meant is that every game I play need to be set to the native monitor resolution ([EMAIL="1920x1080@60mhz"]1920x1080@60mhz[/EMAIL]) in order to have it full screen otherwise it will show black bars on the left and right sides of the game.

That is fine with the newest games but if you play an old game that doesn't support that resolution you might as well resume an old CRT monitor and have the same effect.

I know this as being reported as a bug by several people on the official nvidia forum.

I am on Win7 64Bit

EDIT : I didn't answer your question . No I just bought 1 of them

Dublin_Gunner

Ah ok!

Yeah, I get that in 3dMark11 - 1280x720 in the middle of my screen, black border all around.

I play every game at native res anyway, so shouldn't really matter. There may be a setting on your monitor to ensure even non native resolutions get stretched across the entire screen.

darconio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Ah ok!

Yeah, I get that in 3dMark11 - 1280x720 in the middle of my screen, black border all around.

I play every game at native res anyway, so shouldn't really matter. There may be a setting on your monitor to ensure even non native resolutions get stretched across the entire screen.

I'm quite sure I don't have that option but I'll double check again.
Thanks for the advice and for making me buy this card!

Dublin_Gunner

darconio wrote: »

I'm quite sure I don't have that option but I'll double check again.
Thanks for the advice and for making me buy this card!

Actually just did a quick search. Seems to be a common issue with 3dmark 11. Nvidia and ATI. So guess its just the software.

No probs, its a difficult card NOT to recommend! I'm building a rig for a friend of mine, Sandy Bridge etc - and guess what? PNY GTX 460 OC

darconio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Actually just did a quick search. Seems to be a common issue with 3dmark 11. Nvidia and ATI. So guess its just the software.

When you have a chance would you mind trying any game at lower res and report back what is happening for you?

This is the link to the bug report

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=184286&st=0

Dublin_Gunner

darconio wrote: »

When you have a chance would you mind trying any game at lower res and report back what is happening for you?

This is the link to the bug report

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=184286&st=0

I'll give it a go tonight and post back.

That bug report seems toi pertain to the 260.99 drivers though, which I don't use. Using 266.35 at the moment.

darconio

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

I'll give it a go tonight and post back.

That bug report seems toi pertain to the 260.99 drivers though, which I don't use. Using 266.35 at the moment.

Thanks for that!
Unfortunately according to that bug report 266.35 drivers have exactly the same issue. I didn't try them myself, I might give it a go during the weekend

Dublin_Gunner

Lowered mem to 4000Mhz, GPU at 880/1760

Broke 3500 in 3d Mark 11 yay!
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And Vantage
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