Is Salvia still legal in Ireland

superyoung

Im just curious to know if Salvia weed is now illegal in ireland. With the clamp down on all the legal highs in ireland i have not heard anything about salvia and it appears to still be legal. I dont want any of the stuff because i seen people trip on it in a scary way bu a friend of mine was curious.

e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Salvia_divinorum.

Is this actually true though?

Superyoung

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As i understand it anything psychoactive is now illegal unless they say otherwise.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2010/3410/34a10s.pdf

The country doesnt need the tax money, apparently it's better to have it in the hands of criminals :rolleyes:

Our man in Havana

Indeed it was a catch all measure.

superyoung

Then would that apply to something like dried hops or hops hash as its sometimes called (which is a medicinal resin ) that has no THC or anything like that. It tends to just have sedative effects that make you sleepy.

The pdf is very broad and slightly vague so someone into natural healing may be using an illegal herb and not even realize it. From reading the pdf it seems most of it is aimed more so at the former headshop owners. They really wanted to get rid of them fast didnt they lol.

Has the whole hullabaloo calm down since they were closed?

Del2005

superyoung wrote: »

Has the whole hullabaloo calm down since they were closed?

Nope, it's just gone tax free. But at least the "talk to Joe" brigade are happy.

Carawaystick

is nutmeg specifically legalised then?

Hammered hippie

The government found it neccesary to help drug lords and crime gangs so anything psychoactive is forbidden to be sold in head shops.
You are however allowed to own and consume Salvia. No problem. Just advertisement, sale, trade, import, export and ownership of quantities of which one might suspect they were for trade are illegal.

Even herbal teas could spell trouble for head shops...not for other shops because this government loves to discriminate..its their second favorite hobby after helping drug lords and crime gangs.

drunkmonkey

Hops is legal you can grow it no problem, never heard of hops hash. Happy enough with hops in my beer, I don't need to smoke it as well.

Carawaystick

Hammered hippie wrote: »

The government found it neccesary to help drug lords and crime gangs so anything psychoactive is forbidden to be sold in head shops.

Can you link to the law?

Nutmeg is psychoactive, yet is sold in super markets. Are these different to Head shops under the law?

Our man in Havana

Nutmeg is a legitimate spice. Most people would not know what to do with it.

superyoung

Hammered hippie -
"The government found it neccesary to help drug lords and crime gangs so anything psychoactive is forbidden to be sold in head shops.
You are however allowed to own and consume Salvia. No problem. Just advertisement, sale, trade, import, export and ownership of quantities of which one might suspect they were for trade are illegal."

So ordering a small amount on online is legal? Ok im confused.

Also im told smoking nutmeg can make you sick and im sure it doesnt do anything anyway.

dermot_sheehan

In relation to substances such as nutmeg:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2010/en/act/pub/0022/sec0002.html#sec2

2.— (1) This Act shall not apply to—

(a) a medicinal product within the meaning of section 1 (1) of the Irish Medicines Board Act 1995 ,

(b) an animal remedy within the meaning of section 1 of the Animal Remedies Act 1993 authorised in accordance with—

(i) the European Communities (Animal Remedies) (No. 2) Regulations 2007 ( S.I. No. 786 of 2007 ), or

(ii) Regulation (EC) No. 726/2004 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 31 March 2004 1 as amended,

prescribed or sold for administration to an animal in accordance with those provisions,

(c) intoxicating liquor within the meaning of section 77 of the Licensing Act 1872,

(d) a tobacco product within the meaning of section 2 of the Public Health (Tobacco) Act 2002 ,

(e) food within the meaning of section 2 of the Food Safety Authority of Ireland Act 1998 which has been placed on the market in compliance with food legislation within the meaning of that section,

(f) unless otherwise expressly provided for in this Act, a controlled drug, or

(g) such other substance, product, preparation, plant, fungus or natural organism as may be specified by order under subsection (2).

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1998/en/act/pub/0029/sec0002.html#sec2

Food Safety Authority of Ireland Act 1988

“food” includes—

(a) any substance used, available to be used or intended to be used, for food or drink by human persons, and

(b) any substance which enters into or is used in the production, composition or preparation of these substances,

tootsy70

Thought id bump this thread because i was also on looking info on this stuff. Heres a wee clip for anyone who wants to know what it does. Why anyone would want to take this is beyond me, madness.

rowanh

I see this is an old thread but the last post bothered me, you could say the same thing about anything, i smoked salvia once and while i would admit it was not exactly enjoyable it was a very interesting experience that i do not regret having. I think the way it and all psychotropic drugs have been banned is pathetic beyond belief.