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New Laptop - worth upgrading it to Windows 7 Ultimate?
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Ultimate really only contains a few new features that might be useful to you, though most likely you'll be able to get away without having them. Windows itself will not perform better with Ultimate than Home Premium.
If you're in college, you might find Windows XP Mode useful if you come across something that requires XP or can't run properly in 7.
There's a feature comparison on the Microsoft website that might help:
Windows 7 - Compare Editions
Nice laptop by the way. Hope you have fun with it.
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Yeah doing an IT course and they enroll everyone in Microsoft's "MSDNAA" scheme... so we get free access to pretty much everything Microsoft apart from Office (grr!). Will be doing some downloading before the course ends!
Here's the list from the site;
.NET Framework SDK 1.1
.NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)
.NET Micro Framework Porting Kit v3.0
.NET Micro Framework SDK
Academic Resource Kit .NET CD1 Teaching Resources
Academic Resource Kit .NET CD2 Technology Resources
Access 2003
Access 2003 Developer Extensions
Access 2007
AutoCollage 2008 Academic Edition v1.1 - (English)
BizTalk Server 2006 Developer Edition
BizTalk Server 2006 Enterprise Edition
BizTalk Server 2006 R2 Developer Edition (x86 and x64) - DVD
BizTalk Server 2006 Standard Edition
BizTalk Server 2009 Developer Edition (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
BizTalk Server 2009 Enterprise Edition (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
BizTalk Server 2009 Standard Edition (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
CCR and DSS Toolkit 2008
Commerce Server 2007 Developer Edition
Compute Cluster Pack
Compute Cluster Pack SDK
Customer Care Framework 2008 (v3.0) - CD
Desktop Optimization Pack 2007
Exchange Server 2003 Enterprise Edition
Exchange Server 2007 Enterprise Edition
Exchange Server 2007 Standard Edition
Exchange Server 2007 with Service Pack 1 Enterprise and Standard Editions (x64) - EXE (English)
Exchange Server 2007 with SP1 Enterprise and Standard Editions (x64) - DVD (English)
Exchange Server 2010 (x64) - DVD (Multilanguage)
Exchange Server 2010 Beta (x64) - DVD (Multilanguage)
Expression Blend
Expression Blend 2
Expression Design 2
Expression Encoder 2
Expression Media 2
Expression Studio
Expression Studio 2
Expression Studio 3 (x86) - DVD (English)
Expression Web
Expression Web 2
Forefront Client Security (x86 and x64) - CD
Forefront Security for Exchange Server with Service Pack 1 (x64) - CD
Forefront Security for SharePoint with Service Pack 1 (x64) - CD
Forefront Server Security Management Console (x86) - DVD
Forefront Threat Management Gateway 2010 Enterprise x64 - DVD
Forefront Threat Management Gateway 2010 Standard x64 - DVD
Host Integration Server 2006
Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 RC (x64) - DVD (Multilanguage)
InfoPath 2003
InfoPath 2007
ISA Server 2006 Enterprise Edition
IT Academy Pack
M.E.L.L. - Developer Edition for MSDNAA eLEarning Libraries
MapPoint 2004 European - Run Disc (2/2)
MapPoint 2004 European - Setup Disc (1/2)
MapPoint 2004 North America - Run Disc (2/2)
MapPoint 2004 North America - Setup Disc (1/2)
MapPoint 2006 European - DVD
MapPoint 2006 Standard Edition (European Maps) - DVD (English)
MapPoint 2006 Standard Edition (North American Maps) CD1
MapPoint 2006 Standard Edition (North American Maps) CD2
MapPoint 2009 European Maps (x86) - DVD
MapPoint 2009 North American Maps (x86) DVD
MapPoint 2010 European Maps (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
MapPoint 2010 North American Maps (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
Microsoft CCR and DSS Toolkit 2008 R2 Academic Edition (x86) - (English)
Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack 2009 R2 (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
Microsoft Healthcare Framework SDK
Microsoft Robotics Developer Studio 2008 Academic Edition
Microsoft Robotics Developer Studio 2008 R2 Academic Edition
Microsoft Surface SDK 1.0 SP1 Workstation Edition (x86) - (English)
Microsoft Visual J# .NET
Microsoft Visual Studio 6 Pro (Full Download)
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 1
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 2
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 3
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 4
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 5
Microsoft Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 6
Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX 3.0
MSDN Library - April 2007 (DVD)
MSDN Library - August 2006 - CD1
MSDN Library - August 2006 - CD2
MSDN Library - August 2006 - CD3
MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD1
MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD2
MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD3
MSDN Library - October 2001 (Full)
MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD1
MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD2
MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD3
MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2008 (x86 and x64 WoW) - DVD
MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2008 Service Pack 1 (x86, x64 WoW) - DVD (English)
MS-DOS 6.0
MS-DOS 6.22
Office Accounting Professional 2007
Office Accounting Professional 2008
Office Business Scorecard Manager 2005 with SP1
Office Communications Server 2007 Enterprise Edition
Office Communications Server 2007 R2 Enterprise Editions (x64) - DVD
Office Communicator 2007
Office Groove 2007
Office Groove Server 2007
Office Groove Server 2010 (x64) - DVD (English)
Office Live Communications Server 2005 with Service Pack 1 Resource Kit
Office PerformancePoint Server 2007 (x86) - CD (English)
Office Project Portfolio Server 2007
Office Project Server 2007
Office SharePoint Server 2007 Enterprise
Office SharePoint Server 2007 Standard
OneNote 2003
OneNote 2007
OneNote 2010 (x64) - (English)
OneNote 2010 (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
OneNote 2010 (x86) - (English)
Project 2007 SP1
Project Professional 2002 (Single-User)
Project Professional 2003
Project Professional 2007
Project Professional 2010 (x64) - (English)
Project Professional 2010 (x86) - (English)
Project Server 2003
SharePoint Designer 2007
SharePoint Designer 2010 (x64) - (English)
SharePoint Designer 2010 (x86) - (English)
SharePoint Server 2010 (x64) - DVD (English)
Solver Foundation Enterprise v2 x64
Solver Foundation Enterprise v2 x86
Solver Foundation Standard v2 (x86 x64)
Songsmith Academic 1.02 (x86) - (English)
SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition
SQL Server 2000 SP3a
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 32-bit - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 32-bit - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Itanium - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Itanium - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - DVD
SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - DVD
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - DVD
SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Itanium - DVD
SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition - 32-bit - CD1
SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition - 32-bit - CD2
SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition - 32-bit - DVD
SQL Server 2008 Developer (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
SQL Server 2008 Enterprise (x86 and x64) - DVD
Streets & Trips 2009 (x86) - DVD
Streets and Trips 2010 (x64 and x86) - DVD (English)
System Center Capacity Planner 2006 with Service Pack 1
System Center Configuration Manager 2007 - DVD
System Center Data Protection Manager 2007 - DVD (Multilanguage)
System Center Essentials 2007 - DVD
System Center Mobile Device Manager 2008 (x64) - CD
System Center Operations Manager 2007
System Center Reporting Manager 2006
System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2007 (x86/x64) - DVD
System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 (x64) - DVD
System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2 (x64) - DVD (Multilanguage)
Systems Management Server 2003 R2
Virtual PC 2004
Virtual PC 2007
Virtual PC 2007 64bit
Virtual PC for Mac 7.0.2
Virtual Server 2005 Standard Edition R2 - x64 (English)
Visio 2007 SP1
Visio Professional 2003
Visio Professional 2007
Visio Professional 2010 (x64) - (English)
Visio Professional 2010 (x86) - (English)
Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition
Visual Basic 6.0 Enterprise Edition - Disc 1
Visual Basic 6.0 Enterprise Edition - Disc 2
Visual C# 2005 Express Edition
Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition
Visual FoxPro 9.0
Visual J# 2005 Express Edition
Visual SourceSafe 2005
Visual SourceSafe 6.0d
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional - Full Install
Visual Studio .NET Academic Student Tools 2003
Visual Studio .NET Academic Teaching Tools 2003
Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 CD1 ISO
Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 CD2 ISO
Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 Prerequisites ISO
Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition - DVD
Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition CD1
Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition CD2
Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition CD1
Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition CD2
Visual Studio 2005 Team Foundation Server Trial Edition
Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD1
Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD2
Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD3
Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - DVD
Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System
Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition with SP1
Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition (x86 and x64 WoW) - DVD
Visual Studio 2008 SP1
Visual Studio 2008 Team Foundation Server Workgroup Edition (x86 and x64 WoW) - DVD
Visual Studio 2010 Express (x86) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio 2010 Premium (x86) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio 2010 Professional (x86) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio 2010 Professional Beta 1 (x86) - DVD
Visual Studio 2010 Remote Debugger (x64) - (English)
Visual Studio 2010 Remote Debugger (x86) - (English)
Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate (x86) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio Team Explorer Everywhere 2010 (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2010 (x86 and x64) - DVD (English)
Visual Studio Team System 2008 Team Foundation Server SP1
Visual Studio Team System 2008 Team Foundation Server Standard Edition (x86) - DVD
Visual Studio Team System 2008 Team Foundation Server Workgroup Edition (x86) - DVD
Visual Studio Team System 2008 Team Suite (x86 and x64 WoW) - DVD
Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition
Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Debugging Symbols (x64) - (English)
Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Debugging Symbols Checked Build (x64) - (English)
Windows 7 Debugging Symbols (x86) - (English)
Windows 7 Debugging Symbols Checked Build (x86) - (English)
Windows 7 Language Pack (x64) - DVD (Multilanguage)
Windows 7 Language Pack (x86) - DVD (Multilanguage)
Windows 7 Professional (x64) - DVD (Chinese-Simplified)
Windows 7 Professional (x64) - DVD (English)
Windows 7 Professional (x86) - DVD (Chinese-Simplified)
Windows 7 Professional (x86) - DVD (English)
Windows Automated Installation Kit for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (x86, x64, ia64) - DVD
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 DVD
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 - DVD (English)
Windows Embedded Standard 2009 Academic Edition (x86) - (DVD)
Windows Hardware Compatibility Test Kit Version 11.0
Windows Mobile 5.0 Developer Resource Kit
Windows Mobile 5.0 SDK for Smartphone
Windows Real-Time Communications Client API SDK 1.3
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition - 64 Bit
Windows Server 2003 Multilingual User Interface
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition with SP2 - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition with SP2 - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition with SP2 - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition with SP2 - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard x64 Edition - Disc 1
Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard x64 Edition - Disc 2
Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 Edition Multilingual User Interface Pack
Windows Server 2003 R2, Standard Edition with SP2 - Disc 1 (English)
Windows Server 2003 R2, Standard Edition with SP2 - Disc 2 (English)
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition - VL
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition with SP1
Windows Server 2003 Standard x64 Edition
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition - VL
Windows Server 2008 Enterprise and Standard - DVD
Windows Server 2008 Enterprise and Standard 64bit - DVD
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard, Enterprise, Datacenter, and Web (x64) - DVD (Chinese-Taiwan)
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard, Enterprise, Datacenter, and Web (x64) - DVD (English)
Windows Services for UNIX 3.0
Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 with SP1
Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 with SP1 (x64)
Windows Software Development Kit for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (ia64) - DVD (English)
Windows Software Development Kit for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) - DVD (English)
Windows Software Development Kit for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (x86) - DVD (English)
Windows Vista Business 64bit DVD
Windows Vista Business 64bit DVD with SP1
Windows Vista Business CD1
Windows Vista Business CD2
Windows Vista Business CD3
Windows Vista Business CD4
Windows Vista Business CD5
Windows Vista Business DVD
Windows Vista Business DVD with SP1
Windows Vista Business with SP2 (x86) - DVD (English)
Windows Vista Enterprise with SP1 (x64) - DVD
Windows Vista Enterprise with SP1 (x86) - DVD
Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (32bit, 64bit) - DVD
Windows Vista Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 (x86, x64, ia64) - DVD
Windows Vista SP2 (x86) - CD (Multilanguage)
Windows Web Server 2008 - DVD
Windows Web Server 2008 64Bit - DVD
Windows XP Embedded
Windows XP Embedded with SP1 - CD1
Windows XP Embedded with SP1 - CD2
Windows XP Multilingual User Interface Pack (Multi-Language)
Windows XP Professional (Single User)
Windows XP Professional (Single User) 64bit Edition
Windows XP Professional with SP1a (Single User) ISO Image
Windows XP Professional with SP2 (Single User) ISO Image
Windows XP Professional with SP3 (Single User) ISO Image
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (x86) - CD (English)
Windows XP SP2
Windows XP SP2 Customer Support Diagnostics Tools
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, Disc 1
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, Disc 2
XNA Creators Club Online Academic Subscription
XNA Game Studio 3.0
XNA Game Studio 3.1 - (English)0 -
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Really?
... something doesn't seem right about that...
I'm assuming when I turn on the laptop first it'll want me to register the copy of Windows 7. If I don't do this, and just installs W7 Pro from the start then surely the original W7 Home Premium is unregistered and Microsoft don't have an associated machine for it yet?
The version I'd replace it with would be a full copy, not an upgrade btw.
Is it just a technical agreement thing in the terms or would the licence have been pre-registered to some extent to the laptop, rendering it useless on a different machine....?0 -
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/bb250609Really? ... something doesn't seem right about that...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/bb250608- Restrictions. You may not use the software:
- for commercial purposes; or
- to develop and maintain your own administrative or IT systems.
"The software requires a key to install or access it. You are responsible for the use of keys assigned to you. You may only disclose keys to your staff, faculty, and students. You will use best efforts to make those persons aware of the restrictions on use of the keys. If Microsoft informs you or you learn that any of your faculty, students, or staff are improperly using keys, you will notify them that may not use the software or keys any more, and that they must return or destroy all copies of the software in their possession."
The Full MSDNAA EULA: http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/7/A/A7A7A8F5-9066-41C0-87B8-7DEC628974B8/MSDN_EULA.pdf
14. SCOPE OF LICENSE. The software is licensed, not sold. This agreement only gives you some rights to use the
software. Microsoft reserves all other rights. Unless applicable law gives you more rights despite this limitation, you
may use the software only as expressly permitted in this agreement. In doing so, you must comply with any technical
limitations in the software that only allow you to use it in certain ways. For more information, see
www.microsoft.com/licensing/userights. You may not
• work around any technical limitations in the software;
• reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the software, except and only to the extent that applicable law
expressly permits, despite this limitation;
• make more copies of the software than specified in this agreement or allowed by applicable law, despite this
limitation;
• publish the software for others to copy;
• rent, lease or lend the software; or
• use the software for commercial software hosting services.
Rights to access the server software do not give you any right to implement Microsoft patents or other Microsoft
intellectual property in software or devices that access the server.
18. NOT FOR RESALE SOFTWARE. You may not sell software marked as “NFR” or “Not for Resale.”
19. ACADEMIC EDITION SOFTWARE. You must be a “Qualified Educational User” to use software marked as “Academic
Edition” or “AE.” If you do not know whether you are a Qualified Educational User, visit www.microsoft.com/education
or contact the Microsoft affiliate serving your country.
21. TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY. The first user of the software may transfer it, and this agreement, directly to a third
party. Before the transfer, that party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.
The first user must uninstall the software before transferring it separately from the device. The first user may not retain
any copies. [would still be restricted by parts 18 and 19]
When your third level institute enters these agreements, they spend *a lot* of money doing so, and maintaining the subscriptions. In theory, If they discovered you and a bunch of other students selling keys, the college would probably be fined heavily right before having its access expunged. I'd say they'd delight in expelling you if that happened.
tl;dr - don't try selling them.0 - Restrictions. You may not use the software:
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OK OK I was just asking!
Wasn't aware of "OEM licence", was working on assumption that it would be normal licence but makes sense that the manufacturer would get a bulk discount.BengaLover wrote: »I was considering buying the Lenovo but was advised by the Harvey Norman guy that the specs are pretty poor on it and he didnt recommend it at all.
Upgrading to a higher version of the OS may give you probs.
The same Lenovo that I linked? That'll have no problem running Windows 7! I'm already running it on a much older and poorer spec'd machine. I think you've been talking to a dodgy salesman that was looking for more commission... ask him "how many LRFs does that come with? It's very important for the system's stability". (LRF: Little rubber feet)<snip>
Overheal those links are relating to the MSDNAA copy, I was asking about selling the copy that comes with the laptop... which I now know is an OEM license.
Hey Capt'n Midnight... I'm not intending to violate the license. Only asking what the situation was!Capt'n Midnight wrote: »There is no confusion
you MUST accept the terms of the license to legally use the software
it's still license violation even if you don't get caught.
The only way to transfer the license is to transfer the laptop.
Up to speed on the "OEM license" issue now!
Out of interest, if this was a non-OEM license would it be ok to sell? Or is the selling of any Windows 7 licences not allowed... only asking as I see a few on adverts...0 -
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Next time you are in PC world find out how much a copy of windows actually costsOK OK I was just asking!
Wasn't aware of "OEM licence", was working on assumption that it would be normal licence but makes sense that the manufacturer would get a bulk discount.
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ahOverheal those links are relating to the MSDNAA copy, I was asking about selling the copy that comes with the laptop... which I now know is an OEM license.
this:
16. TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY. You may transfer the software directly to a third party only with the licensed computer. The transfer must include the software and the Certificate of Authenticity label. You may not keep any copies of the software or any earlier version. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.
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Arrived today!
It didn't come with any CDs/DVDs at all. Lenovo don't send them apparently, they suggest you just create a recovery disc yourself.
So did that then installed Windows 7 Professional 64bit. Had trouble getting wifi working but plugged into the connection and it downloaded the correct drivers. The text on screen was very fuzzy at places
too until I noticed they'd installed a bog standard driver too, so downloaded the Geforce one and it's perfect now, much much better!
Nice to have it cleaned of all the OEM software too, would recommend it to others in the same boat.
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