Emergency evacuation.

ScouseMouse

Hiya all.

I was reading the Kerryman newspaper this morning and this photo caught my eye.




The lady seems to be using an emergency shute with her arms full of handbag, lucozade and other things, and she seems to be wearing high heeled shoes !

Is this allowed? Any time I have been on a flight we were told to take off heeled shoes and leave personal belongings.

Maybe this was after the emergency had been stood down?

Smcgie

Prob another AWOL flight attendant like the yank earlier in the year.

xflyer

Well that is odd, given that cabin crew are supposed to tell you to remove your shoes. Now I can understood why she would want to bring her handbag etc given that the aircraft wasn't actually on fire or anything but I would have removed my high heels, not that I wear them (anymore:o). As they might dig in an break an ankle.

I suspect that picture might earn her a smack on the wrist.

lord lucan

I'd have thought the stilettos could puncture the slide thus rendering the slide effectively useless to anyone else wanting to use it.

Similarly i'd have thought that arms should be free to aid your balance at the end of the slide. She'd be in trouble if she went askew on the way down,she'd have to waste time releasing the bag and bottle to correct herself.

Dacian

superscouse wrote: »

I was reading the Kerryman newspaper this morning and this photo caught my eye.


The lady seems to be using an emergency shute with her arms full of handbag, lucozade and other things, and she seems to be wearing high heeled shoes !

Is this allowed? Any time I have been on a flight we were told to take off heeled shoes and leave personal belongings.

Looks like she has the loudhailer in her hand along with her handbag. Taking the loudhailer in an emergency is normal SOP, it is in the usuall high vis orange. I thought the crew wore flat shoes onboard?

donkey balls

Normally when exiting through the escape slide you cross your arms.;)

BrianDaly

Is that a megaphone she's holding as well?

AfterDusk

She's holding the loudhailer, just as she's supposed to do!!

ScouseMouse

neil2304 wrote: »

She's holding the loudhailer and ELT, just as she's supposed to do!!

Whats an ELT ?

Is that what looks like a handbag?

Are the heels allowed on the slide now?

AfterDusk

superscouse wrote: »

Whats an ELT ?

Is that what looks like a handbag?

Are the heels allowed on the slide now?

ELT is a device for determining the exact location of the aircraft - not really necessary in this case as it's on the airfield, but it's part of procedure nonetheless. The heels will land her in trouble though.

donkey balls

superscouse wrote: »

Whats an ELT ?

Is that what looks like a handbag?

Are the heels allowed on the slide now?

ELT = Emergency Location Transmitter
Why the flight crew would need to take it with them since there on terra firma I dont know.

ScouseMouse

According to wilkipedia, ELT is Emergency Locator Transmitter.

Why would you carry one when you are sliding down a slide, at your destination airport, into the arms of a fireman?

BrianD

So the woman seems to be last of those in the cabin to leave the aircraft with her loud hailer and ELT, so what's the problem? In theory, these items could be required after evacuating the aircraft.

Granted she seems to be wearing high heels (or at least shoes with pointy toes) but that's hardly the end of the world.

Seems like a text book evacuation to me.

A320

Id love to see a better resolution pic of this,in my opinion thats not an ELT,its way too small compared to the ones iv'e handled,thats more like the orange handle of the megaphone and the fact its the aft exit,the ELT on NG's ive worked with are located behind ceiling panels(newer mods) near the mid/ aft cabin area which requires a step to remove unless your about 6'2!! or on the likes of a 737 CL up in the fwd l/h cabin overhead bins of course im open to correction on this but even the portable ELT isnt this small

xflyer

Ok I see some of you have been reading PPRuNe, she has the loudhailer in her grasp. It's not a bottle of Lucozade. She does not have an ELT,:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There is no way you can leave the aircraft with the ELT.

She is leaving the aircraft with her shoes on, which is a breach of procedures. Fine, she is clearly last out and probably the purser who was on her last flight. She has her handbag, look I'm married to a woman. Handbags are quite important. This I discovered and in any case represent no safety hazard.

Really though she should have flung her shoes out the door and picked them up later. But if she is the Purser on her last flight, who gives a flip.

donkey balls

Jesus I did'nt know it was on Prune just had a goo the video is a classic:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0rxASx1SxY

michaelflynn61

xflyer wrote: »

There is no way you can leave the aircraft with the ELT.

Aircraft have built in ELTs but most airlines also have portable ones too that you most definitely can (and have to) remove.. I'm not familiar with FR Emergency equipment but I know plenty of airlines configure their aircraft with portable ELTs and it is procedure to remove them in an evacuation. I would be very surprised if FR don't do so.

I don't think it looks like an ELT though, too small. Looks like a megaphone to me.

andy_g

Ryanair do have portable ELT's there located in the aft galley beside the L2 door cant think of the storage cabinet number but know where it is.

Just like our crash axe is located in the flightdeck behind my seat :P

ScouseMouse

this is all really interesting. So it seems to be a megaphone not lucozade. it really looks like it though to the untrained eye. It still looks like a handbag and heels though. So, in the event of an emergency evac. its a case of do as i say, not as I do?

Dogwatch

That bag looks like a ships bag(or whatever avaitors call it). Dont cabin crew have papers to fill in on the ships inventory and probably the meagre earnings form cabin sales or the float.

Maybe this young lady is obliged by MOL to retrieve these items from the ship.

Anyone from FR who can throw light on their obligations.

Cessna_Pilot

She's not wearing shoes of any kind in the photos. Look closer.

Textbook evacuation.

michaelflynn61

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

She's not wearing shoes of any kind in the photos. Look closer.

Textbook evacuation.

I've just looked at it again and whilst I couldn't absolutely swear that she is wearing heels I can't see how you can be so sure that she isn't?

A320

andy_g wrote: »

Ryanair do have portable ELT's there located in the aft galley beside the L2 door cant think of the storage cabinet number but know where it is. :P

Cheers for that info,like the airbus so with the ELT in the aft galley l/h side(non portable)

Portable ELT's don't look like what that lady is carrying anyway

donkey balls

andy_g wrote: »

Ryanair do have portable ELT's there located in the aft galley beside the L2 door cant think of the storage cabinet number but know where it is.

Just like our crash axe is located in the flightdeck behind my seat :P

Yep and the life raft on a DC10/B727 is located under the FE desk with the primary escape route either pilots sliding window.:p

BrianD

xflyer wrote: »

Ok I see some of you have been reading PPRuNe, she has the loudhailer in her grasp. It's not a bottle of Lucozade. She does not have an ELT,:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There is no way you can leave the aircraft with the ELT.

She is leaving the aircraft with her shoes on, which is a breach of procedures. Fine, she is clearly last out and probably the purser who was on her last flight. She has her handbag, look I'm married to a woman. Handbags are quite important. This I discovered and in any case represent no safety hazard.

Really though she should have flung her shoes out the door and picked them up later. But if she is the Purser on her last flight, who gives a flip.

This might seem like an odd question. Do the rules that apply to passengers apply to crew?

Fr_2010

Dogwatch wrote: »

That bag looks like a ships bag(or whatever avaitors call it). Dont cabin crew have papers to fill in on the ships inventory and probably the meagre earnings form cabin sales or the float.

Maybe this young lady is obliged by MOL to retrieve these items from the ship.

Anyone from FR who can throw light on their obligations.

No, The No.1 would have the on-board sales paper-work but by Ryanair evacuation procedures she/he does not bring it. Every Cabin Crew Member ( No1, No2, No3 and No4) has their own designated piece of SAFETY equipment to bring in an emergency evacuation , each is different.

Fr_2010

xflyer wrote: »

Ok I see some of you have been reading PPRuNe, she has the loudhailer in her grasp. It's not a bottle of Lucozade. She does not have an ELT,:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There is no way you can leave the aircraft with the ELT.

She is leaving the aircraft with her shoes on, which is a breach of procedures. Fine, she is clearly last out and probably the purser who was on her last flight. She has her handbag, look I'm married to a woman. Handbags are quite important. This I discovered and in any case represent no safety hazard.

Really though she should have flung her shoes out the door and picked them up later. But if she is the Purser on her last flight, who gives a flip.

The E.L.T. wasn't brought because they landed on an air-field and it wouldn't have been required.
Although of course it is possible to bring the E.L.T. It is stowed in a compartment beside the L2 door. These E.L.T.'s are portable.

highlydebased

Eh, why on earth would they bring the ELT? :S

They are stopped on a taxiway at an airport, with Emergency services in sitiu. ELT is generally for an aircraft that crashes for all intents and purposes...

AfterDusk

Neon-Circles wrote: »

Eh, why on earth would they bring the ELT? :S

They are stopped on a taxiway at an airport, with Emergency services in sitiu. ELT is generally for an aircraft that crashes for all intents and purposes...

That's irrelevant. There are procedures to be followed.

highlydebased

neil2304 wrote: »

That's irrelevant. There are procedures to be followed.

Can you direct me to the relevant checklist or SOP which indicates to bring the ELT then?

Plowman

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APM

ELT is to be taken by the crew at the aft of a Ryanair aircraft in an evacuation regardless of the location of the aircraft at the time. Its alot easier to have one standard procedure than wasting time deciding where the aircraft is before they take/do not take the ELT.

Neon-Circles: I'm told it is in Chapter 4 of the Ryanair SEP (Safety and Emergency Procedures). Something along the lines of Take loudhailer and ELT (if fitted).

As has been said before: Textbook evacuation

January

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

She's not wearing shoes of any kind in the photos. Look closer.

Textbook evacuation.

She's either wearing point toe'd high heels or she has freaky feet, look at her left leg.

Dogwatch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlJZ-hwLdo4

Everyone is wearing shoes in this one. Removal of shoes is apparently not compulsory.

Anyone know the cause of the evacuation ?

IrishB.ie

"The captain saw a light indicating possible problems with one of the engines" then "There was a fire in the main landing gear when the plane landed."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/12/30/colorado.emergency.landing/?hpt=T2

searescue

Saw this video on YouTube Regarding The Evacuation -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOcQmqmLNBw&list=QL&playnext=2

January

Dogwatch wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlJZ-hwLdo4

Everyone is wearing shoes in this one. Removal of shoes is apparently not compulsory.

Anyone know the cause of the evacuation ?

removal of shoes is not compulsory, it's high heels that are not allowed.