AGS age restriction to be questioned by Paul Gogarty TD

ZoneAlarm

¯`·._.· AGS age restriction to be questioned by Paul Gogarty TD ·._.·´¯) A lot of you will have missed my question to Paul Gogarty TD on the above issue, so here is it:

If I get any further information, update or feedback, I will post it here so it won't get lost in the sea of other questions he's being asked.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68496701

As this post is going back to September was just wondering if there was any further update on this, or will it be put on the long finger like all the other requests for help on this matter.

itsallgood

Questions are asked every week in the dail. Politicians will ask them when requested by the public. They are asked and generally answered with something copied and pasted from a previously answered question. The answer is then sent back to the person who asked the question and it isn't followed up on by the politician. This question was asked and won't be followed up on. Like the 100's previously asked with regards to recruitment. Don't be waiting to get any result from it.

ZoneAlarm

itsallgood wrote: »

Questions are asked every week in the dail. Politicians will ask them when requested by the public. They are asked and generally answered with something copied and pasted from a previously answered question. The answer is then sent back to the person who asked the question and it isn't followed up on by the politician. This question was asked and won't be followed up on. Like the 100's previously asked with regards to recruitment. Don't be waiting to get any result from it.

Well tbh i wont be holding my breath, as i could end up in a box all it takes is enough people to apply pressure, its like everything if you give up at the first hurdle its all lost.

itsallgood

To apply the type of pressure for the change you are looking for you need media coverage and thousands of people. There are currently 450 people on a panel since may 2008, over 20,000 more have expressed an interest for next recruitment campaign, every media outlet in the country and every politician in opposition as well as most in government screaming for more gardai and its all falling on deaf ears. I've been waiting since may 2008 to start and along with others on here we have applied pressure every way and not one person has given up at the first hurdle. But the one thing we all have learned is that td's don't care and will only front issues that will cause trouble for opposition parties but follow through with nothing. Hopefully things will change with new gov.

ZoneAlarm

TBH i dont think even that would be enough, they all say a lot of things at the door but when is closes what do they say, are these people mad or what do they think we have money to throw away just like that, sure what about our cars, our junkets away, ohhhhh and not to mention their pensions so where do we fit in well i will tell you not even at the bottom of the barrel, and with a supposedly freeze till 2015, the ranks will be so depleted its a scary thought.

Also if there where jobs to be got out there tomorrow, do you honestly think there would be so much interest in joining the garda for the crap they have to endure every day, 24/7 plus putting their life at risk every day from scrotes, and gows who at any time could turn around and prick you with a knife, or a dirty hiv needle.

People are applying for these jobs thinking that its a safe and secure job, until they join up and their lives are turned upside down, if they want to experience it first hand join the reserve force first, and see it first hand at least if they dont like it they wont have wasted their time plus they will have gain valuable experience.

eroo

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

People are applying for these jobs thinking that its a safe and secure job, until they join up and their lives are turned upside down, if they want to experience it first hand join the reserve force first, and see it first hand at least if they dont like it they wont have wasted their time plus they will have gain valuable experience.

+1

This happened in the last few years. Accelerated recruitment was/would be a disaster.

tang1

From first hand knowledge lads it is a safe, secure and great job. It ain't easy by any stretch of the imagination tho, people have no clue what so ever what u may have 2 put yourself thru on any given day. From what i know it will be 2-3 years at least before any new people will be taken into the job. Templemore is a ghost town atm due to lack of student garda about the place, and believe me politicians ain't goin 2 do anything 2 help the job.

ZoneAlarm

Yes its a safe and secure job as in the meaning its a job for life, but for the other stuff its not safe or secure, you never know from day to day what is going to happen its just like leaving your house you could be hit by a bus, same can happen in the street you dont know what you are coming up against, as i say if you want a view of the job join up the reserves first then your eyes will be opened up for you, eventually it will be a easier route for you to get in full time, as you will have more going for you and more training under your belt so to speak than a person just coming in off the street when you eventually go for your interview.

Sierra Oscar

Apart from approaching lobby groups, the only way the age restriction could be realistically be put on the political agenda is if you were a member of a political party with personal access to a TD who you could voice your concerns to in detail - heck if you were a member of the political party of whatever party is in government you could quite easily get access to the minister.

Unfortunately, most people are not members of political parties . . . and I would expect most people hoping to become Gardai would be steering well clear of party politics!

Anyway as has been said, this will just drop off Paul Gogartys list of "to do's" unless he is being continually pestered on the issue.