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77-82 Porsche as wedding present. Need lots of help please?
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23-12-2010 1:05pm#1
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Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64857
What's your budget?
There's an easy way and a hard way
Seeing you don't mind a left hand drive car (you're willing to bring one in from the US or continental Europe), contact Paul (a regular contributor here) and he can get you a 911 provided you have a reasonable budget.
The hard way starts with lots of homework: this will set you back a good few days over Christmas
Anyway good luck and keep us posted here! BTW do you wanna marry me instead? Lotus Elan turbo for sale:
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What's your budget?
This may sound like a crap answer but if I knew what kind of price range they are going for I could answer that a little better. for now let's say €10-€15k?? Is that enough to consider getting a good car that won't keel over after three months?There's an easy way and a hard way
Seeing you don't mind a left hand drive car (you're willing to bring one in from the US or continental Europe), contact Paul (a regular contributor here) and he can get you a 911 provided you have a reasonable budget.
I will definitely contact Paul. I have had bad dealings with the easy way in the past but if this one comes recommended then that's cool.The hard way starts with lots of homework: this will set you back a good few days over Christmas
:eek: 517 days left to D-day. Better start reading!Anyway good luck and keep us posted here! BTW do you wanna marry me instead?
Thank you so much. I will defo keep ye posted. Since we are getting married abroad there may not be pics of the car and the bride, although I'm sure if I asked nicely enough, after handing over the key, then she might be willing to pose for a few shots in her dress
If this doesn't go well and all goes tits up I will definitely consider Dinner and a movie. We can work up to getting married later
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Should be able to help you out there with a 911 that meets your requirements.
I'd even offer 3 months parts and labour warranty!
Check out my signature below if you'd like to ring or email me directly.
To wet your whistle this is the quality of car you'd be able to afford with the top end of your budget:
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jimbobjones40 wrote: »Should be able to help you out there with a 911 that meets your requirements.
I'd even offer 3 months parts and labour warranty!
Check out my signature below if you'd like to ring or email me directly.
That is more or less what she is looking for. Sweeeeeet.what a prezzie! Maybe you'd marry me instead?:D
Get a pre 1980 one as it will be NCT exempt and therefore should hold its value better...not that she'd ever sell it of course.
These are things I need to know about. Tax/Insurance/VRT/NCT.ToxicPaddy wrote: »She's a very lucky lady.. I hope she lets you drive it too..
Likewise! :cool:I don't mean to be a killjoy, but has the bride to be ever driven an older 911?
No sir she hasn't. Her car history is 80's Bmw 5 series, 90's pug (heart breaker), 00 Golf and a 01 BMW 320 Ci. Now that I think of it I don't think she's ever driven left hand either. Posts like these are needed and I appreciate it.I''m wondering who is this pressie really for, you might be lucky she might hate it.
I might be. I was never a fan of the 911's. Once this is sorted I can start saving for my Mustang 0 -
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Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64857
PhantomShrimp wrote: »These are things I need to know about. Tax/Insurance/VRT/NCT.
See the sticky for a lot of details and discussions, but here's a quick summary that might apply to you: motor tax is going to be €48 per year seeing as the car will be over 30 years old by the time you buy it. The car will be NCT exempt provided it is registered on 31/12/1979 at the latest. Any newer car will have to be tested every year. Insurance is trickier but assuming your wife to be doesn't have another car, she could possibly insure the car in your name with her being a named driver. On a €15k 911 with limited mileage, a fully comprehensive insurance quote could be around the €300-€400 mark. VRT will be a flat fee of €50 provided the car is 30 years old, otherwise it will be 36% of the open market selling price (expect to be brutalised on this one - it could even be €5k or more no one knows :eek:)PhantomShrimp wrote: »No sir she hasn't. Her car history is 80's Bmw 5 series, 90's pug (heart breaker), 00 Golf and a 01 BMW 320 Ci. Now that I think of it I don't think she's ever driven left hand either. Posts like these are needed and I appreciate it.
That poster owned a mid 80s 911 targa and I think his point is that there are no mod cons whatsoever (compared to a more modern car). It might be cold, damp, hard to change gears, hard to steer and very hard to drive fast
Would she really like to drive / own one?PhantomShrimp wrote: »Once this is sorted I can start saving for my Mustang
Ah a car with a proper engine sitting in the proper end of the car Lotus Elan turbo for sale:
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Sorry for being a bad host. Travelling, sick and Christmas getting in the way.Might be €200 after the budget if the whole Category C is included in the commercial hike!
Waaaaaaaaagh!OP - well, I had a beautiful 87 3.2 Carrera, and my SO couldn't stand it. Heavy steering, offset pedals, no ABS, 'characterful' gearchange (with the so-called updated G50 gearbox...), heavy clutch, archaic heating/ventilation.
I think you should talk to people in Porsche Club Ireland, here: http://forum.porsche-club-ireland.com/
If you ask, I'm sure members' would be happy to show you their cars before you get in over your head.
that is a great piece of advice TT. Thank you for that. It definitely makes a loooot of sense. I'm afraid I may have to bite the bullet and if I can take her to a "meet" of the Porsche club and see if someone would let her take a small spin. It would ruin the surprise but as you mention and imply it would be much better to do this then spring the surprise on her and finding out she can't drive it.
Ruin the surprise or be disappointed???
Sounds positively modern compared to my '86 with the 915 'box! OP - I don't mean to sound smart, but it's a genuine possibility that she literally won't be able to drive it at all. They may look delicate, but 911s are heavy, physical cars. I'd have her drive one first, take it from there.
Anan I am taking every post seriously and don't think anything sounds smart. I appreciate all the advice, suggestions and proposals of marriage. I guess the answer to your post is echoed in the above post. Its time to think about ruining the surprise and see if I can get someone to let her drive one briefly.
It definitely wouldn't be her day to day car but its still a serious issue if you think she would have difficulty driving it. The point to the car is that she can relax and go for a spin on a Saturday or Sunday and I'd hate for that to be ruined if she couldn't drive it.That poster owned a mid 80s 911 targa and I think his point is that there are no mod cons whatsoever (compared to a more modern car). It might be cold, damp, hard to change gears, hard to steer and very hard to drive fast
Would she really like to drive / own one?
It's been her dream since she was 14. Most girls dream of the perfect wedding or going shopping. Mine dreamt of a Porsche 911, hates shopping, makes me go out with the boys and, well its happened twice, has been caught trying to hug the hood of a parked Porsche. She never actually touched it but stood at the bumper and spread her arms out. She's one in a million.Ah a car with a proper engine sitting in the proper end of the car
You knows it!
Thanks again for all the help guys. Taking it all on board.0 -
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Great initiative PhantomShrimp.
Just my 2 cents worth on the matter:
I think some of the posts here are a tad bit harsh.
I think picking a 911 for your other half to be as a wedding present could very well work.
I have had two customers in the past that asked me to find them a car to surprise their other half with a Classic Car wedding present surprise (one with a beetle and the other with an Alfa Romeo Spider). Both occasions were absolutely memorable! So, as wedding presents go, it can be a huge succes to make it an absolute surprise. As in your case, in both my cases the fiancee was definitely keen on a specific model, so if your other half to be has expressed such an enormous desire for a 911, I am sure it will be well received, no matter what happens afterwards.
Also, if I look at some of the previous cars she has driven/owned, she's not an entire novice.
The remarks from some of the posters/owners here about driving a 911 are in some part justified, but i feel they're a little bit over exaggerated. In my experience, Porsche steering is very light, extremely responsive on the go, but since it's unassisted, the extreme responsiveness can come accross as being 'nervous' steering, where you feel every bump and unevenness in the road. Parking the car will require a bit more effort, but there is no heavy engine pushing down on the front wheels, so it's not as bad as an unassisted 'normal' car. You do get used to it very quickly.
Braking on older cars is unassisted too, and it requires a harder shove at slower speeds before something happens. But again, you get used to it quickly. Clutch is a little bit heavier, but of all the Porsches I have driven they were no where near as heavy as some people are making it out to be. (Again, you do get used to it, although, driving along in a trafffic jam, with clutch pushed in can be tiresome...) . Gearbox there is quite a bit of difference between the older 901 (dog leg 5speed, up until 71, so that's not going to be an issue in your case), the 915 and the G50 box from 87 onwards. The G50 box is a lot stronger and less prone to synchro wear, but in feel it's only a little bit lighter than the 915 box. Personally I don't think the gearbox is particularly heavy or cumbersome. I my opinion it's a lot more positive in feel than a manual Mercedes! or Alfa...
Of course the car will require a good bit of getting used to, but if she is so keen on one, I am sure that she is in a good position to wanting to overcome them. And from the positive feedback that I have received in the past from the other halves that were surprised on their wedding day. I'd nearly say, go for it...
The red targa seems to be a nice car, if she checks out mechanically, and it's rhd. I know of a couple of nice left hand drive examples if you;re intested. Feel free to contact me if you want more info.0 -
PhantomShrimp wrote: »I'm afraid I may have to bite the bullet and if I can take her to a "meet" of the Porsche club and see if someone would let her take a small spin. It would ruin the surprise but as you mention and imply it would be much better to do this then spring the surprise on her and finding out she can't drive it.
Ruin the surprise or be disappointed???
Done right, and it won't ruin the surprise at all!
Make the 'meet' and potential 'spin' a surprise in its own right, even better if a 'meet' falls near her birthday or an anniversary etc...
...if she's as big a porsche fan as you suggest, a day out surrounded by her dream cars, with the opportunity to drive one will be plenty enough in its own right. :cool:
It's a big leap of imagination to take that day out, and turn it into "my hubby-to-be is buying me one of those as a present"
My hubby always wanted a Cherokee...as poor students back in the day, before we were married, I couldn't make the grand gesture of buying him one....but as the final exam for his degree also fell on his birthday, I surprised him with a 48hr test drive of the brand new Jeep Cherokee from the local Jeep dealer...all I had to do was squirrel away his driving license and insurance cert for an hour so the dealership could photocopy them, then they handed me the keys to a brand new Cherokee for the weekend, with a full tank. To say he was thrilled was an understatement
We did buy a Cherokee a few years later, sure he was always going to buy one as soon as he could afford it...but 12 years on he still talks about that 48 hr test drive - the surprise when I turned up outside the exam hall in it and handed him the keys 0 -
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PhantomShrimp wrote: »
It's been her dream since she was 14. Most girls dream of the perfect wedding or going shopping. Mine dreamt of a Porsche 911, hates shopping, makes me go out with the boys and, well its happened twice, has been caught trying to hug the hood of a parked Porsche. She never actually touched it but stood at the bumper and spread her arms out. She's one in a million.
OP, you lucky lucky *******. Does she have any sisters going spare ?:D 0 -
Hope for a sister whose childhood dream was a Porsche 924, though.mantaraver wrote: »OP, you lucky lucky *******. Does she have any sisters going spare ?:D 0 -
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I might want to add, if you feel, that you have issues with a RWD car in the rain, maybe it's time to change the tyres or find a type of tyre, that suits the weather better.
Then you won't have close calls .. unless you're bombing it anyhow
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