deer permission ad....

tfox

Just came across this

http://www.donedeal.ie/wanted/livestock/1623441

clivej

Anyone taking bets to see how long it takes before that add is taken down.

serious3

been up 67 days so far.....

Feidhlim Dignan

well he has to get permission somewhere. i say fair play to him

underthetumb

money hungry .....

jap gt

underthetumb wrote: »

money hungry .....

why so

Feidhlim Dignan

underthetumb wrote: »

money hungry .....

Why would u say that? i know he could well be selling the carcasses but there are a lot of lads doing that.

Pokes

underthetumb wrote: »

money hungry .....

"for your peace of mind i am fully insured and will not charge you as i know alot of people do."

underthetumb

maybe i am out of order, he must have permissions already if he has a licensed .243 and is insured. maybe i am generalising this fella.

underthetumb

why would he charge you when he could be getting 2 or3 euro a kilo from a game dealer. i am not saying he is, i was prob a bit rash with my op.

Birdnuts

There most be a serious market for these animals somewhere - the amount of lamping in these parts for deer is phenomenal. I've lost count of the number of times on the N81 I've been behind large vans with powerfull lamps shining into every bit of forestry between Blessington and Tallagh since October. Only last week in Glending Woods @2330 2 large refigerated Iveco vans with English regs were parked up at the entrance - and I don't think they were their for a stroll;)

poulo6.5

Birdnuts wrote: »

There most be a serious market for these animals somewhere - the amount of lamping in these parts for deer is phenomenal. I've lost count of the number of times on the N81 I've been behind large vans with powerfull lamps shining into every bit of forestry between Blessington and Tallagh since October. Only last week in Glending Woods @2330 2 large refigerated Iveco vans with English regs were parked up at the entrance - and I don't think they were their for a stroll;)

That's mad. Have you reported any of the rege numbers to the gards.

As far as that ad is concerned I don't know anyone that charges for shooting deer. In fact I get the impression that in some places it is the other way around.

Birdnuts

poulo6.5 wrote: »

That's mad. Have you reported any of the rege numbers to the gards.

As far as that ad is concerned I don't know anyone that charges for shooting deer. In fact I get the impression that in some places it is the other way around.

The foreign regs would be tricky to track down i would have thought - and its not just UK ones eithier, a farmer nearer the lake said the amount of simliar activity involving East European regs has likewise shot up in the last 2 years!!

poulo6.5

Birdnuts wrote: »

The foreign regs would be tricky to track down i would have thought - and its not just UK ones eithier, a farmer nearer the lake said the amount of simliar activity involving East European regs has likewise shot up in the last 2 years!!

We need to be proactive here. I think it would be best to let the cops have rege plates at least. They might follow up on it if they were not to busy

deerhunter1

tfox wrote: »

Just came across this

http://www.donedeal.ie/wanted/livestock/1623441

I hope he does not shoot like he spells or speaks:)

deerhunter1

underthetumb wrote: »

maybe i am out of order, he must have permissions already if he has a licensed .243 and is insured. maybe i am generalising this fella.

Does not have to have a deer licence, member of authorised rifle club?

tfox

Has been up for 67 days, surprised the wonderful ICABS havnt been sending in there complaints :rolleyes:

I think if he feels the need to advertise on the net if he cant get permissiona knocking door to door is a bit odd, plus if he's travelling to scotland etc so often shooting deer he cant be short of few bob to spend on ground ...?

Just seemed an odd way to go round it :rolleyes:

underthetumb

i am aware he can be a member of a club to acquire a license, however i was just presuming he would have permissions if he was that into deer hunting, the amount of permission you can get knocking on doors makes it strange in my eyes why someone would advertise like this

the_syco

Ad strikes me as someone who already has permission elsewhere, but there is no deer there anymore to shoot, so he's looking elsewhere. As for knocking on doors, I'd say he's either just lazy, or he's been told "no" too many times.

buckshotbrolan

Fair play to him. When I moved to a new erea and was told by the local gun club that they we're "full", I put adds in the local co-op and post office stating that I was looking for land to hunt on and got loads of calls.

crackcrack30

English probably not first language.....
game dealer bound......
Can he see in the dark?
Does he make returns to npws...?
NPWS should give him a call to see how his season is going...
Would his number be on their data base?
Should be at least checked out by parks service .. .. .

Steyr243Hunter

Cant see the problem of offering his services for free, i seen ad for section 42s to be carried out last march in the farmers journal - Registered game dealer handy cash for him. But end of day there is farmers having problems with deer coming into areas that where never there before due to forestry being planted (grants incentive) that would be looking for new people to cull numbers. I think its a lad unemployed with extra time on is hands maybe cant afford coilte lease.

underthetumb

but he can afford to go shooting in scotland every year, i certaimly cant afford tha

tfox

crackcrack30 wrote: »

English probably not first language.....
game dealer bound......
Can he see in the dark?
Does he make returns to npws...?
NPWS should give him a call to see how his season is going...
Would his number be on their data base?
Should be at least checked out by parks service .. .. .

Agree with you about the language, something about it strikes me that English is not his first language Almost hints of those wonderful emails I get in broken English from the head of foreign deposits in Burkina Faso offering $40m for holding some money for him that has laid unclaimed after the account holder and all his family died in a mysterious plane crash :rolleyes:

zulu_dawn

it seems this is catching on.... (county laois area now)

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/livestock/1715045

meathstevie

Birdnuts wrote: »

The foreign regs would be tricky to track down i would have thought - and its not just UK ones eithier, a farmer nearer the lake said the amount of simliar activity involving East European regs has likewise shot up in the last 2 years!!

I can tell you hand on heart that it would take no more than a couple of minutes for any Garda with a radio handy to check a UK or NI registration and that's all I'm going to say so don't ask.

poulo6.5

zulu_dawn wrote: »

it seems this is catching on.... (county laois area now)

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/livestock/1715045

I just spoke to this lad Alan on the phone. Seams like a nice lad. He is after catching a couple of lads poaching on his lease.

johnner1

poulo6.5 wrote: »

I just spoke to this lad Alan on the phone. Seams like a nice lad. He is after catching a couple of lads poaching on his lease.

i would be surprised if there was any animals left on his lease to poach;)

Hawk-eye46

Hi Lads, Just came across this post while surfing, can't see what the problem with someone putting up such an add is??? it must be genuine if he had bothered to put up an add at all. If he were a poacher or anything else WHY draw unnesessary attention to yourself with such an add??? If you feel so strongly about the add, why don't you be pro-active and use the number on the add and just ring the chap and ask him, instead of coming up with all sorts of theories

thebull09

They seem to be more

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1709827

J.R.

There are a few ads looking for deer shooting. I can't see any problem as long as the lads advertising are above board and not involved in any illegal activity. They may be trying to reach a wider audience than calling door to door to landowners.

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/1772871

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/livestock/1715045

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1709827


There's also a refridgerated larder for game...expensive at €2,000
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/others/1717195

zeissman

There is a talk show on our local radio every morning and people often
ring in complaining about deer destroying crops etc, then someone will call
to say they had their car damaged by deer on the road.
I noticed these type of adds appearing after that.
I think its just hunters hoping to get a bit of extra free shooting for themselves.

Hawk-eye46

Well said Zeissman Agree 100%

"I think if he feels the need to advertise on the net if he cant get permissiona knocking door to door is a bit odd, plus if he's travelling to scotland etc so often shooting deer he cant be short of few bob to spend on ground ...? Just seemed an odd way to go round it "

Ha ha ha maybe "underthethumb and tfox" are just jealous they didn't think of it first.....the advertising I mean and the wider audience marketing is a great tool.......and as for the "can't be short of few bob"

I myself go away every year on a foreign hunting trip and im not exactly flush, but i work my backside off to afford my hunting trip, it's the highlight of the year you dont have to be rich to afford hunting, just wise with your money. I think there are too many begrudgers out there...in the spirit of christmas Bah Humbug begrudgers :cool:

tfox

Have thought about something similar a few times but reckon the personal touch of going knocking on doors is much better approach, and word of mouth works wonders too

Not knocking them for trying get permission, each to there own methods.

Hawk-eye46

tfox wrote: »

Have thought about something similar a few times but reckon the personal touch of going knocking on doors is much better approach, and word of mouth works wonders too

Not knocking them for trying get permission, each to there own methods.

I hear what your saying, but some of the comments n the last few pages are fair harsh.....do you not agree??? and if your a deer hunter as many people on this thread are, should you not think that we are a minority and should not stick together instead of slagging each other off??? God knows it's hard enough getting permission to shoot on farmers land with the amount of poaching etc that's going on. "Decent" Deer folk should stick together

caprilicious

Judgmental much folks?

That is my brother in laws ad.

For the record, he is a Kilkenny native born & bred.

He does the usual knocking on doors every year and has permissions, the problem is the areas so far he has received permissions in, a lot of other people have been given permissions in so there's slim pickings.

Yes he goes to Scotland to hunt, that's his own business. Some people go out drinking every weekend and spend their money this way, he doesn't.

I can assure you categorically that he does not sell the meat. He is into the hunting purely for the sport.
More power to those that do it to make a few quid on the side, worse than dumping carcasses for the sake of it.

If you want to know what happens to the meat, my dad is partial to a bit as are a few of the neighbours up home.

He heard of a lad putting an ad in the farmers journal and getting a good response from it. He was doing likewise & has received a favourable response.

Originally Posted by crackcrack30
English probably not first language.....

Yes it is.

game dealer bound......

Wrong

Can he see in the dark?

Doesn't hunt at night

Does he make returns to npws...?

No, only gets a handful a year

NPWS should give him a call to see how his season is going...

No problems, he's got his licence from there, all above board

Would his number be on their data base?

Yes as licenced member

Should be at least checked out by parks service .. .. .

Work away, forward them the ad link, they're welcome to ring him



Any more assumptions questions????

tfox

Hawk-eye46 wrote: »

I hear what your saying, but some of the comments n the last few pages are fair harsh.....do you not agree??? and if your a deer hunter as many people on this thread are, should you not think that we are a minority and should not stick together instead of slagging each other off??? God knows it's hard enough getting permission to shoot on farmers land with the amount of poaching etc that's going on. "Decent" Deer folk should stick together

Yeah fair enough.

The thing I have noticed with deer stalking is its a very secretive, cut-throat sport.

Everyone is very wary bout talking of there permissions, doesnt like the idea of someone else getting permission where they think they should have it, or as said someone getting permissions easier than they do :rolleyes:

endasmail

caprilicious wrote: »

Judgmental much folks?

That is my brother in laws ad.

For the record, he is a Kilkenny native born & bred.

He does the usual knocking on doors every year and has permissions, the problem is the areas so far he has received permissions in, a lot of other people have been given permissions in so there's slim pickings.

Yes he goes to Scotland to hunt, that's his own business. Some people go out drinking every weekend and spend their money this way, he doesn't.

I can assure you categorically that he does not sell the meat. He is into the hunting purely for the sport.
More power to those that do it to make a few quid on the side, worse than dumping carcasses for the sake of it.

If you want to know what happens to the meat, my dad is partial to a bit as are a few of the neighbours up home.

He heard of a lad putting an ad in the farmers journal and getting a good response from it. He was doing likewise & has received a favourable response.


Yes it is.
Wrong
Doesn't hunt at night
No, only gets a handful a year
No problems, he's got his licence from there, all above board
Yes as licenced member
Work away, forward them the ad link, they're welcome to ring him



Any more assumptions questions????

only in ireland lol

Hawk-eye46

Yeah it is cut throat and i can understand why it might be as there are A## Holes out there who wouldn't know there Ar#e from their elbow when it comes to rifles and HUMANE deer culling, but there are also the other extreme who think they know everything, when they know NOTHING.....As for being able to afford Coillte forests and lands, I was in on a syndicate, ill not mention where, but we went twice and that was the last we went..."Poachers Paradise"

Hawk-eye46

endasmail wrote: »

only in ireland lol

And people like this make Ireland the way it is today Endasmail!!! :mad:

Elmur fudd

It seems to me that people like to bad mouth other people, for a good idea. If you look at the Irish Shooters Digest, the guy that shot the big red stag in Donegal..... he got permission by way of placing an add in the farmers journal. This is the same as putting it on donedeal or buy and sell......so i say fair play to him. As regards to the add on done deal and Laurence, as far as im aware he has had a good response to it. As for the comments on page 1 and 2 not good!!! this guy is a good lad that works hard because i know him well. He loves the sport for what it is, he has no time for people who poach or lamp at night. I can say on his behalf he aint like that nor will you find him bad mouthing people like the above.....im sure he has more important things to worry about not like people here....... ( well you've seen the comments )
for the record I shoot deer myself safe stalkin.:)

E. Fudd

Lads,

I personally know Laurence, and can hand-on-heart say that he is one of the "honest" sportsmen out there.

How many times have you called in to farmers to look for permission only to be told " ah sure so-and-so looks after the deer for me, he lamps them and he's taken 10 off the land for me the last month".

My point is that it's becoming harder and harder for the honest lad to get a bit of permission because it's now gotten to a stage where farmers want the population of deer on there land stemmed, and the honest lads like myself, who shoot in season, and without the aid of a lamp aren't getting a look in because we simply cannot take the number of deer off the land that the illegal boys with there lamps can.
So I feel that there's absolutely no harm in putting up ads looking for permission, afterall, it's better than driving along the road shining a lamp into fields with no permission whatsoever, which we all know is going on.

meathstevie

E. Fudd wrote: »

Lads,

I personally know Laurence, and can hand-on-heart say that he is one of the "honest" sportsmen out there.

How many times have you called in to farmers to look for permission only to be told " ah sure so-and-so looks after the deer for me, he lamps them and he's taken 10 off the land for me the last month".

My point is that it's becoming harder and harder for the honest lad to get a bit of permission because it's now gotten to a stage where farmers want the population of deer on there land stemmed, and the honest lads like myself, who shoot in season, and without the aid of a lamp aren't getting a look in because we simply cannot take the number of deer off the land that the illegal boys with there lamps can.
So I feel that there's absolutely no harm in putting up ads looking for permission, afterall, it's better than driving along the road shining a lamp into fields with no permission whatsoever, which we all know is going on.

If a farmer really suffers that badly from deer damage he should have no problem getting a section 42 ( if that's the correct mumber, if it isn't my apologies ) and get the overpopulation shot under a lamp legitimately.

As for the lad with the ad on donedeal, why not ? It's just as legit an attempt at getting some permissions as going door to door.

underthetumb

fair enough lads, sorry if i came across as a pr%%k, not my intention.
i just found it odd to go about it that way. look i got some great advice fom lads here, we are all in this sport because we love it. so dont want to fall out with anyone. hawk eye i can assure you i am not jealous.

crackcrack30

Same as above, glad its not a mobile meat factory .........
An area I love to hunt was cleaned out by lampers this year I could see the tracks in the mornings, shot anything with eyes... so Im a bit touchy

cc30

Hawk-eye46

Glad to see everyone has seen sense.....to be fair though lads, nothing is gonna be done about the poachers and lampers and other people you know the likes im reffering to with the "non Irish reg's"..........Everyone here is, I assume into Deer stalking or associated with it in some shape or form. Instead of discussing the pro's and con's of putting up an add on Donedeal for more land, I think the honest hunting folk should be sticking together and fighting back aginst the poachers and lampers. I don't know how, but im sure there are a fair few years of hunting experience between everyone here. I doubt coillte or the npws have enough bodies to patrol the problem areas, even simple things like reporting reg numbers etc would be a start.........what do ye think??? :rolleyes:

stick shooter

intreresting to say the least, I have hung around some remote parts of wicklow and handed in reg numberes and i was told that if NO DEER NO CRIME:(

foxboy

just because you have a lamp and a gun dosn't mean you are after deer.
I lamp, but only rabbit and fox

zeissman

Most of the poachers I know of have deer hunting licences.
they will lamp them while its still dark and pick them up when it clears.
I dont think the npws or gardai are that bothered about catching them as deer are regarded as a pest around here at present.

Hawk-eye46

foxboy wrote: »

just because you have a lamp and a gun dosn't mean you are after deer.
I lamp, but only rabbit and fox

I know not all people who lamp and have a gun are after deer, but it's sad to say that were all going to be tarred with the same brush. I have a shot gun too and go after the bunnies and foxes too.....Am not saying anyone with a lamp and a gun at night are after deer, but it does have a dominoe effect......:(